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Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
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cheeto to Zelensky reminded me of this song by Badfinger

If you want it, here it is, come and get it
Mm mm mm mm, make your mind up fast
If you want it, any time, I can give it

But you'd better hurry 'cause it may not last
Did I hear you say that there must be a catch?
Will you walk away from a fool and his money?


If you want it, here it is, come and get it
But you'd better hurry 'cause it's goin' fast
If you want it, here it is, come and get it
Mm mm mm mm, make your mind up fast

If you want it, any time, I can give it
But you'd better hurry 'cause it may not last
Did I hear you say that there must be a catch?

Will you walk away from a fool and his money?
Sonny!
If you want it, here it is, come and get it
But you'd…
 

Bitek

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Off topic but speaking of tall, I had noticed this really tall guy that seemed to be escorting the witnesses in the SCIF during news video. He looks to be Manute Bol tall.
Saw him at the hearing today. Dude looks taller than Morrison. On this Google seach he's the giant on the left.


I saw that too, and I was wondering if it was the same guy. Apparently not.

Damn, what's in the water in DC?
 

Bitek

Lifer
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Wow Ratcliff destroys the dems on this. he is right why do the charges keep changing? now its bribs. so when the bribe angle goes down in flames what will be the next bullshit charge?

It is a quid pro quo (Latin for this for that; dirt for aid). It is bribery, (using 400 million to extract a favor) and it is extortion seeing that withholding the aid is an implied threat since Ukraine is at war with Russia.

As @emperus already explained, quid pro quo can literally mean bribery.

And for the record, there is no "attempted bribery." It's considered bribery just for offering. If you don't believe this, try it with a cop next time you get pulled over.

Explain to the judge how you offered the cop $20 (the quid) for letting you go without a ticket (the quo,) but they can't send to to jail for bribery because the cop refused to take the 20 and arrested you instead, thus no bribe was completed.
Plus you never called it a bribe, just doing you a favor, so checkmate fool.

Please capture on video and post here for our amusement. Actually, have someone else record it as they don't allow phones in prison...


There are only two interesting observations:

1. The amount of time it took for the Dems to start using English words found in the Constitution rather than arcane Latin legalese. o_0

2. The best defense Trumpers have is "we don't know what words mean" backed by the legendary "ctrl-F" power move.

Lol
 

interchange

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Wow Ratcliff destroys the dems on this. he is right why do the charges keep changing? now its bribs. so when the bribe angle goes down in flames what will be the next bullshit charge?


Oh noes the English language is redundant (and even chooses to borrow phrases from Latin). If they can't decide on what word to call criminal behavior then the behavior must not be criminal! Makes perfect sense!!
 

K1052

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Sondland's opening statement is out and he's boarded the lifeboat. Blames everything on Trump/Rudy and names the people in the loop including Pompeo, Pence, and more.

Shit is about to get super real.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...s-trump-pompeo-confirms-deal-ukraine-n1086541

Sondland testimony targets Trump, Pompeo and confirms deal with Ukraine

Under fire from all sides after multiple witnesses contradicted his earlier deposition, Sondland blames everyone but himself for the pressure campaign on Ukraine now driving impeachment proceedings against Trump. He plans to show up for his televised hearing with reams of new text messages and emails he said prove the highest levels of the White House and the State Department were in on it.


"They knew what we were doing and why," Sondland plans to tell the House Intelligence Committee, according to his opening statement obtained by NBC News. "Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret."

Sondland's 19-page opening statement — plus texts and emails not previously made public — is filled with new details and disclosures he omitted from both his over nine-hour hour closed-door deposition and a sworn declaration he made later. He will say his memory had been refreshed by other witnesses' testimony, but lawmakers are likely to grill Sondland over his failure to produce the information previously and whether his testimony can be trusted after changing so many times.

But the email and text records Sondland is providing to Congress on Wednesday may corroborate some of his new account.
 
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He saw how he was being lead to the slaughter and decided he didn't want to go alone. Who can blame him after watching Stone pay the price. This is going to be a fun day!

And the boy brought receipts!
 
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brycejones

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Sondland who? Took some pictures but trump takes pictures with everyone. Hardly know the guy, but he is really dishonest and a secret plant who contributed to Trumps campaign just for this moment. The whole thing is a conspiracy of the swamp because they are afraid of how honest Trump is. The deep state is really deep and controlled by socialist dems.

Fox is going to lose their shit tonight.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Sondland who? Took some pictures but trump takes pictures with everyone. Hardly know the guy, but he is really dishonest and a secret plant who contributed to Trumps campaign just for this moment. The whole thing is a conspiracy of the swamp because they are afraid of how honest Trump is. The deep state is really deep and controlled by socialist dems.

Fox is going to lose their shit tonight.

Starring Joe and Hunter as the Demogorgons!
 

TheVrolok

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Sondland's opening statement is out and he's boarded the lifeboat. Blames everything on Trump/Rudy and names the people in the loop including Pompeo, Pence, and more.

Shit is about to get super real.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...s-trump-pompeo-confirms-deal-ukraine-n1086541

Sondland testimony targets Trump, Pompeo and confirms deal with Ukraine
Thank God, I can't watch this morning and was really wondering if he woukd just plead the 5th and keep his mouth shut.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Thank God, I can't watch this morning and was really wondering if he woukd just plead the 5th and keep his mouth shut.

I went to a youtube site and started playing then paused. That way I can pass on the ridiculousness of some of it by fast forward. I'll probably peek in an hour or so.
 

K1052

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I went to a youtube site and started playing then paused. That way I can pass on the ridiculousness of some of it by fast forward. I'll probably peek in an hour or so.

You're not missing much with the opening statements except for the usual Nunes idiocy.
 

evident

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Sondland is playing the CYA game. blaming his superiors, state dept, etc. everyone but himself
 

K1052

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Did Nunes read an opening statement from some other impeachment trial?

The GOP hand here is so incredibly weak that they may as well blurt out the truth that everybody understands: We don't care it's bad/illegal, we are enormous hypocrites, and we will back Trump all the way down no matter what he does.
 
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