So now that the Dems have been handed this whole Ukraine thing on a silver platter, how are they going to bone this up? First hand testimony where Sondland literally says it was a QPQ and all Republicans can do is attack the character of witnesses? Yet... Trump will probably still be in office to see a vote next year.
“I have heard, some of you on this committee appear to believe that Russia and its security services did not conduct a campaign against our country—and that perhaps, somehow, for some reason, Ukraine did. This is a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves,” Hill will say during an impeachment hearing Thursday morning, according to prepared remarks obtained by the PBS NewsHour.
As Republicans and Democrats have agreed for decades, Ukraine is a valued partner of the United States, and it plays an important role in our national security. And as I told this Committee last month, I refuse to be part of an effort to legitimize an alternate narrative that the Ukrainian government is a U.S. adversary, and that Ukraine—not Russia—attacked us in 2016.
These fictions are harmful even if they are deployed for purely domestic political purposes. President Putin and the Russian security services operate like a Super PAC. They deploy millions of dollars to weaponize our own political opposition research and false narratives. When we are consumed by partisan rancor, we cannot combat these external forces as they seek to divide us against each another, degrade our institutions, and destroy the faith of the American people in our democracy.
This whole process is just depressing to me.
All this damning testimony from countless, collaborative sources and you damn well know, just like the 100s of Congress passed bills before it, this impeachment will go nowhere in the Senate. It's outcome will have little to no effect on the 2020 elections because the outcome lies in the hands of about 100,000 people in a few states. Those people are not going to change their minds no matter what the President is found guilty of doing.
Our system has been gamed and its flaws found and they will be exploited for a long time coming.
The outcome won’t come down to Trump supporters, there are simply too few of them to determine it. The outcome will come down to everyone else.
That aside though yes, it is deeply depressing that we have found out just how impotent and fragile the constitution turned out to be where we can’t even remove blatant criminals from office.
This whole process is just depressing to me.
All this damning testimony from countless, collaborative sources and you damn well know, just like the 100s of Congress passed bills before it, this impeachment will go nowhere in the Senate. It's outcome will have little to no effect on the 2020 elections because the outcome lies in the hands of about 100,000 people in a few states. Those people are not going to change their minds no matter what the President is found guilty of doing.
Our system has been gamed and its flaws found and they will be exploited for a long time coming.
does nunes believe the BS that's coming out of his mouth? WTF?
Democracy only works when people understand and value it because they understand what life can be like without it.The outcome won’t come down to Trump supporters, there are simply too few of them to determine it. The outcome will come down to everyone else.
That aside though yes, it is deeply depressing that we have found out just how impotent and fragile the constitution turned out to be where we can’t even remove blatant criminals from office.
These folks are all "the end justifies the means" folks. I'm sure he sleeps just fine.I only wonder how well Nunes sleeps at night given all the BS he spits out at every hearing. What a waste of space.
Democracy only works when people understand and value it because they understand what life can be like without it.
Thomas Jefferson once said that "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.", but I would say that once lost it can only be regained by the tears of regret of those who have allowed it to have slipped away.
Perhaps it is best to see the Republican party for what it has become, the party of tyrants.
"I want nothing, I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo!"
Man, if Trump testifies it will be insane.
I expect the country to limp along until something really bad happens. It’s hard to see a situation where we fix the Constitution until it’s broken beyond all repair. When that happens though it will be because conservatives have broken it to maintain power and they won’t want to give it up without a fight. I expect attempts to restore a functioning democracy will be met with violence from the right.
"I want nothing, I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo!"
Man, if Trump testifies it will be insane.
Simple talk for simple people.It occurs to me that one of the reason Trump did so well in the last election, and still plays well on a lot of news, is that he literally talks in sound bites, and the only words he uses beyond a 4th grade level is 4 letter ones. He appeals to the very basest of our nation.
Not possible, it was originally written in stone, like the 10 commandments. George Washington was a master stone sculptor, some people are saying.It's time for a new constitution for sure.
The idea is silly at best. The winner of any such contest will be whoever can get the military to back them. All the small arms in America is pointless, only thing that matters in an armed revolution is who the military backs.Then understand that those who oppose them must be able to do so materially.
The idea that we are having a conversation about this is also silly. That we are in a situation where people might be terrorists to support a corrupt autocrat in America is also silly. That a whole party will throw their entire efforts to support someone worse than Nixon is silly.The idea is silly at best. The winner of any such contest will be whoever can get the military to back them. All the small arms in America is pointless, only thing that matters in an armed revolution is who the military backs.