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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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I guess this still belongs here, I don't want to start a new thread. The smoking guns for the Pubs in the Oranges of the Russian Investigation appears to be an altered email, which said that Carter Page was not a US asset when he apparently was. Yet Horowitz makes the statement that no documentary or testimonial evidence supported the claim that the FBI was politically bias. What the Republicans are trying to do is convince us that they can read between the lines and tell that the FBI was biased by their supposed actions. Especially fealty to the damnable Steele dossier.


Honestly, it doesn't even matter. The Republicans can call it a sham investigation and it still wouldn't change the facts: the president abused his power to get a foreign power to meddle in our election and then obstructed Congress when they tried to investigate him.

Ironically, it doesn't even matter what the testimony from witnesses says because trump himself admitted to his wrong doing and the obstruction is obvious as well.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Just a pipe dream but what if Hunter Biden called the Dems and volunteered to testify concerning Barisma only and the Dems offered Hunter for Mick Mulvaney.

Think Republicans would blink or just move the goalposts?
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
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Is anyone aware of an official investigation into barisma or hunter Biden that is currently on going?
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Is anyone aware of an official investigation into barisma or hunter Biden that is currently on going?

Well, Rudy is sleazing around in Ukraine. He's the President's personal attorney, kinda, so that's official, right?
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
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Just a pipe dream but what if Hunter Biden called the Dems and volunteered to testify concerning Barisma only and the Dems offered Hunter for Mick Mulvaney.

Think Republicans would blink or just move the goalposts?

I would guess that they would accept and then Mulvaney would get a professional case of poor memory.

'Could you please state your name for the record?'
'I can't recall'
'What is your position with the Administration'
'I don't seem to remember that'
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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Rudy Giuliani LOVES this kind of stuff, to do Trump's dirty work and taunt the media with a BIG SMILE.... "just wait, just wait, something big is coming".
Separate, Donald Trump is nothing and Rudy Giuliani is nothing, but together they create an third person of spite, hate, evil, and faking conspiracy theories.
The committee should be talking about this weird unholy alliance between Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani.
WHAT'S UP WITh THAT?
Why do they attract each other?
Is it some New Yorker thing?
A buddy buddy thing?
I have a feeling that if anyone were interested in looking into the past relations between Trump and Giuliani, pre politics, I'd bet Giuliani pulled off some pretty illegal crap to benefit Donald Trump within business and within personal like concerning Trump and New York.
After all, back then Giuliani had the power and the connections. Just the kind of people Donald Trump migrates to.
Either that, or Donald and Rudy are lovers....
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Rudy Giuliani LOVES this kind of stuff, to do Trump's dirty work and taunt the media with a BIG SMILE.... "just wait, just wait, something big is coming".
Separate, Donald Trump is nothing and Rudy Giuliani is nothing, but together they create an third person of spite, hate, evil, and faking conspiracy theories.
The committee should be talking about this weird unholy alliance between Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani.
WHAT'S UP WITh THAT?
Why do they attract each other?
Is it some New Yorker thing?
A buddy buddy thing?
I have a feeling that if anyone were interested in looking into the past relations between Trump and Giuliani, pre politics, I'd bet Giuliani pulled off some pretty illegal crap to benefit Donald Trump within business and within personal like concerning Trump and New York.
After all, back then Giuliani had the power and the connections. Just the kind of people Donald Trump migrates to.
Either that, or Donald and Rudy are lovers....
I posted this in another thread, but it also fits here. This is nothing new for Rudi

 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Is anyone aware of an official investigation into barisma or hunter Biden that is currently on going?

They never do investigations, the GOP. They just do "hearings" to float the nonsense idea in front of their brainless followers that real investigations are happening.

Bengazi? 9 or so bullshit "hearings" just so idiots can yell for the benefit of their drooling, moron supporters.
 

Gabe323

Senior member
Apr 29, 2002
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The Biden Impeachment hearings have resumed. There's also a lot of talk about the national debt that we should be spending our time talking about.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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They never do investigations, the GOP. They just do "hearings" to float the nonsense idea in front of their brainless followers that real investigations are happening.

Bengazi? 9 or so bullshit "hearings" just so idiots can yell for the benefit of their drooling, moron supporters.

I’m talking about an investigation by the DOJ.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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I’m talking about an investigation by the DOJ.

I honestly think that Ukraine “announcing” an investigation was intended to give Barr enough cover to launch a DOJ investigation into the Bidens. Barr acting alone would’ve been seen as nakedly partisan and he’d likely be impeached, hence why Ukraine needed to toss up Biden like an alley-oop.
 

akenbennu

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Jul 24, 2005
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I honestly think that Ukraine “announcing” an investigation was intended to give Barr enough cover to launch a DOJ investigation into the Bidens. Barr acting alone would’ve been seen as nakedly partisan and he’d likely be impeached, hence why Ukraine needed to toss up Biden like an alley-oop.

Given Barr's partisan showing so far, I'm pretty sure no Republican would blink if he started an investigation into Biden.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Given Barr's partisan showing so far, I'm pretty sure no Republican would blink if he started an investigation into Biden.
I honestly think that Ukraine “announcing” an investigation was intended to give Barr enough cover to launch a DOJ investigation into the Bidens. Barr acting alone would’ve been seen as nakedly partisan and he’d likely be impeached, hence why Ukraine needed to toss up Biden like an alley-oop.

The fact that no investigation has been launched or that they needed the announcement from a foreign country in order to justify an investigation goes to show its a bull shit talking point.

We all knew that, I just wanted to get confirmation.
 

interchange

Diamond Member
Oct 10, 1999
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Does anyone have any evidence that there was any active concern for Hunter or Burisma to have an investigation reopened by Shokin at the time Biden took action to help oust him? After all, he's the prosecutor who let the investigation into Burisma he inherited die and was widely criticized by the international community for using his position to protect corrupt actors from investigation.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Does anyone have any evidence that there was any active concern for Hunter or Burisma to have an investigation reopened by Shokin at the time Biden took action to help oust him? After all, he's the prosecutor who let the investigation into Burisma he inherited die and was widely criticized by the international community for using his position to protect corrupt actors from investigation.

The matter was looked into already and nothing was found.
 

interchange

Diamond Member
Oct 10, 1999
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The matter was looked into already and nothing was found.

It's a rhetorical question for anyone who knows better. An earnest one for anyone who might spout the Republican narrative that Biden was corrupt* therefore investigating his corruption is kosher.

*He wasn't. But hell maybe you'll materialize some evidence which puts that in doubt.
 

compuwiz1

Admin Emeritus Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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The matter was looked into already and nothing was found.

More like the matter was glossed over, as partisans usually protect their own. Guaranteed that if it looks like Biden is going to be the nominee, no stone will be left unmoved. Impeachment is already being planned. #resist! #neverbiden #joepedophile....sound familiar? lol

This is the kind of politics we have today.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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More like the matter was glossed over, as partisans usually protect their own. Guaranteed that if it looks like Biden is going to be the nominee, no stone will be left unmoved. Impeachment is already being planned. #resist! #neverbiden #joepedophile....sound familiar? lol
Your decision to support Trump is yours alone. You need not project your self loathing on others.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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More like the matter was glossed over, as partisans usually protect their own. Guaranteed that if it looks like Biden is going to be the nominee, no stone will be left unmoved. Impeachment is already being planned. #resist! #neverbiden #joepedophile....sound familiar? lol

This is the kind of politics we have today.

Put up or kindly shut the fuck up. Show us the investigation was glossed over.
 

compuwiz1

Admin Emeritus Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Put up or kindly shut the fuck up. Show us the investigation was glossed over.

Well, two can play that. Prove it wasn't. As for the rest of your post, I should take the infraction, but I'll save it for another time.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Your decision to support Trump is yours alone. You need not project your self loathing on others.

Projection is pretty central to the conservative movement today. They think Democrats would unfairly impeach Trump because he was of the wrong political party because that's what they would do if given the chance. They always assumed Obama was abusing his powers to target conservatives because that's what they would do (and they proved it with Trump).

They don't seem to understand or care that not everyone is as immoral as they are.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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lol republicans chabot is complaining about how many people were listening in on the call between trump and Zelensky.
 
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