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MixMasterTang

Diamond Member
Jul 23, 2001
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Serious question. Are you drunk?

edit: anyway Im not going to continue with this stupid dialogue. Final point is, we partially agree. Did Fox put the hearing in a box with no sound? Yes. Did they they do it for the majority of the house panel's arguments? No. Did they air less of the hearing than other networks? Yes.

Not sure how more clear I can be. I sure seemed to trigger you though.

Well back to the original question then, did the fox stream differ from the other networks?
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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Please accept this trophy for pedantry. Take the rest of the weekend off.
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Read my edit.

Oh, and you can always ignore me. *shrug*

Fuck your edit. You are wrong and you continue to be wrong, the irony is that your own link shows how wrong you are.

Btw, there is a huge difference between covering the trial with limited commercial breaks and not covering HALF* the trial in order to add spin, it isn’t even close to being in the same ball park.

You can lie to yourself but you aren’t going to get away lying on this forum.

*just so I don’t have to hear from your pedantic ass, half is an estimation, it could be more or less.
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
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I think the house should start impeaching Trump a second time with an extensive list of charges and go to court to bring in the witnesses. Take it to the ends of the earth even if it means destroying the integrity, the little of it that remains, of the Supreme Court. It's revolution time, seems to me, if we really mean to save our country from a Mafia Dictatorship.

Maybe in another lifetime however I think it's belly up time for the Dems but maybe we'll win in November. What you mention should have been done in this attempt, but as I suppose we're not to let mediocrity stand in the way of ineptitude. Remember when we were talking about citing witnesses with contempt and arresting people? Well that's just bluster it seems.

It seems we'll declare victory and nothing of consequence happen, although it's fun to tag Trump with impeachment. At least history can say that happened.
 

Sunburn74

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Oct 5, 2009
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Meet the burden of proof and we''ll talk.
Republican senators have already stated this was met. Rubio and Alexander both have directly stated that. However they came up with other reasons not to impeach. Rubio claimed it would further divide the country and Alexander said election interference and politically motivated investigations for personal benefit wasn't impeachable in and of itself.

Everyone can decide for themselves if they think asking another country to create a fake investigation by holding congressionally appointed aid for personal benefit is in impeachable. But don't spread mistruths that the burden of proof wasn't met. In a normal court, he'd be convicted already without Bolton's testimony. It's crazy to me that in all the weeks leading up to this not once were the actual facts of the case challenged. Not one person could come up with something that challenged the facts.

He did for personal benefit over months .
He tried to cover it up.
When it came out, his political party covered for him as best as possible and when they couldn't any longer they just acquitted him hoping people will forget.
 
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emperus

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Yes, this latest failed "gotcha" and all the ones before it were just a disagreement on policy!

/faceplam

Let me ask you. In this latest "gotcha", what was the policy that they disagreed on? Spell it out for me.

Honestly you can tell the people who live in the Fox bubble, they readily regurgitate propaganda, no matter how ridiculous it sounds to everyone else around them. At least be like Rubio and Alexander, accept reality and find "your out" no matter how ridiculous it is, which you believe masks that your owned by Trump and which allows you to still support Trump.
But this policy disagreement babble, speaks more about how easily you can be fooled.
 

emperus

Diamond Member
Apr 6, 2012
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I think the house should start impeaching Trump a second time with an extensive list of charges and go to court to bring in the witnesses. Take it to the ends of the earth even if it means destroying the integrity, the little of it that remains, of the Supreme Court. It's revolution time, seems to me, if we really mean to save our country from a Mafia Dictatorship.

Democrats don't have it in them to stand up the way they need to. We have one crazy party abetted by Fox News which is willing to tear down everything to achieve their goals (lining their own pockets) and another which is too weak to stop them. We are truly f'd as a country.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Integrity?

/shrug

I’m confused, why would that indicate integrity? The facts changed when it turned out Trump was trying to rig the 2020 election so she changed her position.

Is there something about this you don’t understand?

A good start would be accepting Trump's presidency instead of constantly trying, and failing, to oust him.

I know: it'll never happen. That's been made very clear.

That doesn’t answer the question, what do you want them to be doing with the time they have used to hold Trump accountable?
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Democrats don't have it in them to stand up the way they need to. We have one crazy party abetted by Fox News which is willing to tear down everything to achieve their goals (lining their own pockets) and another which is too weak to stop them. We are truly f'd as a country.
Democrats have a brain defect and this is exactly where it reveals itself to those not similarly infected.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Remember when she said that impeachment was a bad idea? I do.

Maybe she should've stuck with that.

As I've already stated, my bad for not remembering a political anecdote that I learned 30 years ago.

I guess you don't read, either.

You're being dishonest. That was wrt different matters prior to this episode entirely, about the Mueller report. That & this are connected only by Trump's general scumbaggery & obstruction.
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
Jul 15, 2000
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Hey, you forgot to post the CNN article criticizing Trump for having an all-white legal team (not a joke by the way).

Let me know when Sekulow's son is getting paid $500,000 a month working in the Ukraine because of his daddy.
Hunter was making a reported $80K a month, not $500. A named board member for Co looking for recognition, that's about it. Oh, lets not forget that Dump put Ivanka and Kushner into positions for which they had not one speck of relevant experience. As for outing the wistleblower, Dump nut-jobs actually fell for the "Hillary is running a child sex-slave ring" and shot the hell out of a DC pizza shop. Only the best people.
 
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Hunter was making a reported $80K a month, not $500. A named board member for Co looking for recognition, that's about it. Oh, lets not forget that Dump put Ivanka and Kushner into positions for which they had not one speck of relevant experience. As for outing the wistleblower, Dump nut-jobs actually fell for the "Hillary is running a child sex-slave ring" and shot the hell out of a DC pizza shop. Only the best people.
Remember guys, Trump and Republicans really care about corruption and nepotism.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Hunter was making a reported $80K a month, not $500. A named board member for Co looking for recognition, that's about it. Oh, lets not forget that Dump put Ivanka and Kushner into positions for which they had not one speck of relevant experience. As for outing the wistleblower, Dump nut-jobs actually fell for the "Hillary is running a child sex-slave ring" and shot the hell out of a DC pizza shop. Only the best people.

That's not accurate. He was reportedly paid "up to $50,000" in a single month, not every month.


It's all conspiracy theory slime, anyway, a Trump/GOP specialty. It's a redux of their 2016 methods.
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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You mean like the hundreds of laws the House did pass that are sitting in Moscow Mitch's wastebasket under consideration by the Senate. Reality is that the House has been very productive, doing the job Americans sent them to Washington to do. The Senate Republicans, on the other hand, have been stacking the courts, appeasing Putin, and pocketing money from their oligarch masters.
In all fairness that was what taj and qliveur sent elected them to the senate to do.
 
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woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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Maybe in another lifetime however I think it's belly up time for the Dems but maybe we'll win in November. What you mention should have been done in this attempt, but as I suppose we're not to let mediocrity stand in the way of ineptitude. Remember when we were talking about citing witnesses with contempt and arresting people? Well that's just bluster it seems.

It seems we'll declare victory and nothing of consequence happen, although it's fun to tag Trump with impeachment. At least history can say that happened.

It was never going to be any more than that, no matter how it was played. If you thought otherwise, you were naive.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Maybe in another lifetime however I think it's belly up time for the Dems but maybe we'll win in November. What you mention should have been done in this attempt, but as I suppose we're not to let mediocrity stand in the way of ineptitude. Remember when we were talking about citing witnesses with contempt and arresting people? Well that's just bluster it seems.

It seems we'll declare victory and nothing of consequence happen, although it's fun to tag Trump with impeachment. At least history can say that happened.

Who's this "we"? Now you're a Democrat? Your other use of the term isn't accurate, either. Pelosi & Dems in general never did go on about arresting people. That was just the usual internet ravers.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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It was never going to be any more than that, no matter how it was played. If you thought otherwise, you were naive.
Here's the thing. They knew there was a risk of public seeing something actually easy to digest among the testimony and documents that were withheld. They knew there was a chance of him losing the base or else they wouldn't have pulled out all the stops to prevent that. And the insane thing is that they'd still have Pence, so it's the precedent they needed to prevent, because once one R politician is actually held accountable, it'd just be a matter of minutes before they all were.
 
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