Volker and Morrison say hi.Republican witnesses in the House? Agree that it sucks that none of Trump's requested witnesses were called. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Yes, that is BS. Trump was acquitted because Republicans hold the majority in the Senate.My narrative is that Trump was acquitted because of the incompetence of the left. And this forum fails to see that.
I consider it genuinely weird how firmly convinced a certainly element of the right-wing populace is that Democrats were *completely* terrified at the prospect of Biden or Schiff (lulz) being called as a witness.
Yeah and they were pretty cool with exterminating an entire ethnicity.
and trump was only impeached because the house majority is democrats...Yes, that is BS. Trump was acquitted because Republicans hold the majority in the Senate.
The evidence was more then enough to convict in any court of law.
This is basically undisputed, even by Trump's lawyers.
Republican witnesses in the House? Agree that it sucks that none of Trump's requested witnesses were called. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Yep, that was his point.Yeah and they were pretty cool with exterminating an entire ethnicity.
I agree, because the majority of Republicans would never have voted to impeach no matter how much evidence was presented. We know this because plenty of evidence was presented and they didn't vote to impeach.and trump was only impeached because the house majority is democrats...
Bs narrative?
My narrative is that Trump was acquitted because of the incompetence of the left. And this forum fails to see that.
The left bias of What is said in this forum isn't respresentive of all of America
Whether or not Trump is good or bad is completely separate from the fact that the left doesn't offer the American people something worth voting for. And "if" Trump is as bad as the left claims, it should make it easier to vote him out.
goes both ways...I agree, because the majority of Republicans would never have voted to impeach no matter how much evidence was presented. We know this because plenty of evidence was presented and they didn't vote to impeach.
Trump was acquitted because of the moral depravity of the GOP. He just brings it out better.
GOP lawyers are currently defending an alt-right double murderer in court on the basis that the people he murdered deserved it because they were supposedly 'interfering' with the alt-righter's exercise of free speech, so we're not that far away. Speedy and Zivic will defend it when that day comes. Leftists will deserve it for hating freedom.Keep following Trump & you'll get there eventually.
Agreed, Trump should stop throwing rocks all the time.those that live in glass houses...
who am I defending?GOP lawyers are currently defending an alt-right double murderer in court on the basis that the people he murdered deserved it because they were supposedly 'interfering' with the alt-righter's exercise of free speech, so we're not that far away. Speedy and Zivic will defend it when that day comes. Leftists will deserve it for hating freedom.
maybe he should... but then he wouldn't be the person/president that was elected into office.Agreed, Trump should stop throwing rocks all the time.
Sure, loads. Much of it the GOP refused to ask for. I wonder why? Why do you think the GOP refused to ask for any evidence?goes both ways...
and again... evidence?
Sure, loads. Much of it the GOP refused to ask for. I wonder why? Why do you think the GOP refused to ask for any evidence?
It would be nice if we could have honest open discussions with the Trumpers so we could find some common ground and work towards compromise and the betterment of all. But unfortunately, that would go against their agenda of achieving political power through divisiveness. So instead, they namecall, tell lies and argue in bad faith to spread FUD and create division, and disregard any and all arguments and evidence that aren't immediately self-serving, even when that makes them look like brazen baldfaced liars. And most importantly, they blame everyone else for what they are doing.Ah, all arguments in bad faith, check. Ignore please.
This guy gets it. Betting odds showed Trump got 20% stronger. Next impeachment, please. Don't the Dems want the title of only party to impeach a president twice? That'd be historic!completely terrified might be a stretch.... but I would say, there were some that were "concerned'
The whole impeachment was a damn charade. from the house to the senate. it started in the house, so I would put the blame mostly on them. They could have and should have done better. now we sit here on some meaningless forum discussing the could haves and should haves.
I still contend that the majority of americans are sick of the partisan BS that made up this impeachment. They are sick of the partisan investigations leading up to it.
do I like that we see investigations now starting that go after the left? For the most part no, but I also am open to the idea that what goes around comes around and that if there isn't some definitive action taken that we will be in for round after round of investigations into trump.... all ending the same way the previous ones did. I personally can't wait till we have a "Trump impeachment #2" thread here .
"Expose them and their lies", like Iowa and the DNC? /cricketsIt would be nice if we could have honest open discussions with the Trumpers so we could find some common ground and work towards compromise and the betterment of all. But unfortunately, that would go against their agenda of achieving political power through divisiveness. So instead, they namecall, tell lies and argue in bad faith to spread FUD and create division, and disregard any and all arguments and evidence that aren't immediately self-serving, even when that makes them look like brazen baldfaced liars. And most importantly, they blame everyone else for what they are doing.
But instead of ignoring them, what people need to do is not react to them. Instead, be proactive. Drive the narrative and expose them and their lies. And especially the cowardice that is their primary motivation.
Still lying. The House did present credible and irrefutable evidence. The Republicans refused to allow it to be presented in the Senate, and instead voted their political cowardice. Many of them even admitted that's what they were doing while they were doing it. Only one had any courage at all, and Trump viciously attacked him, of course.were they supposed to? The house should have had their ducks in a row. presented credible and irrefutable evidence. apparently that is not how members of the senate saw it
Ugly as it often is, at least some democracy is better than the complete absence of democracy in the Republican party this year. The Republican Elite are making sure Trump faces no internal opposition to his re-coronation."Expose them and their lies", like Iowa and the DNC? /crickets
The whole world is watching.
were they supposed to? The house should have had their ducks in a row. presented credible and irrefutable evidence. apparently that is not how members of the senate saw it
People recalling what they heard Trump say is not hearsay. It's just literally not by the federal rules of evidence.
I think there is an argument out there that the house banked on no witnesses allowed.... Because at the end of the day, careful what you wish for. Maybe Biden(s) get called amongst other bad for the democrat witness.
were they supposed to? The house should have had their ducks in a row. presented credible and irrefutable evidence. apparently that is not how members of the senate saw it