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Harrod

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Apr 3, 2010
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I worked at a place once where a tech got a ticket on the internet being slow. His resolution was moved internet throttle from yellow to red and closed the ticket out.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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But it saves hundreds, and the computers have i7 processors, so they'll be fast no matter what!

I believe that I would give up half of my RAM and jump back a full processor generation before I'd give up my SSD.

The funny thing is I build them with i3 processors and SSDs while a sister company builds them with i7s and 1TB drives. Which one gets less complaints? The IT guy over there was surprised to see we only use i3 processors in our machines. Why would we spend resources on a processor an avg corp user never uses? Better to take the money and alleviate a real bottleneck.
 
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Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
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The funny thing is I build them with i3 processors and SSDs while a sister company builds them with i7s and 1TB drives. Which one gets less complaints? The IT guy over there was surprised to see we only use i3 processors in our machines. Why would we spend resources on a processor an avg corp user never uses? Better to take the money and alleviate a real bottleneck.

Yeah seriously. At my day job, we rolled out the i5 BRIX computers (mobile, dual-core with hyperthreading) over the i7 because why not? (the i3's were a little laggy for the intended applications) People LOVE them, and if there's a major system glitch there's no longer any "arg I gotta reboot? really?" because it comes back so fast :thumbsup:
 

Linflas

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Jan 30, 2001
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Our department has the ability to make a 2 year old business class HP workstation running Windows 7 64 Pro feel like an 8086. They use crappy Trend Micro AV, Lumension patch management that they refuse to set to run scans during non usage times, and the steaming POS bloatware known as Novell Zenworks which invades a workstation like the stuxnet virus. I sympathize with the users daily.
 

angminas

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My mother has a slow computer with XP she uses for web browsing and word processing and it can take upwards of 15-20 seconds to get anything to work sometimes. (computer programs, not talking internet/lantecy ms) Intensive scan with avast and spybot turns up nothing, uses chrome with adblock, latest flash and security updates (outside of ended XP support) even ccleaner cleaning the system out and cleaning the registry plus defragging the harddrive doesn't seem to help. Reinstalling windows would probably do the trick, but still. Makes you wonder just what it is that bogs down a well maintained machine, even if it is old.

Did you unplug and reseat everything? Try plugging the HD into a different port? Try a different HD cable? Test the RAM? Check the temps? Update drivers? Update HD firmware? Run Secunia PSI? Google part numbers for known issues? Watch Task Manager to see what's eating up resources? Check the BIOS version? Do a little dance? Make a little love? Get down tonight? Get down tonight?
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
Aug 25, 2001
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EVERYONES COMPUTER IS SLOW, I DONT GIVE A F!!!

So sick of fucking idiots who complain that their computer is sooo slow, yet they sit there and open the same program 50 times because it didnt instantly open the first time

I hate stupid people, and im surrounded by them.

Uhh... SSDs, look into them.
 

Zodiark1593

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The funny thing is I build them with i3 processors and SSDs while a sister company builds them with i7s and 1TB drives. Which one gets less complaints? The IT guy over there was surprised to see we only use i3 processors in our machines. Why would we spend resources on a processor an avg corp user never uses? Better to take the money and alleviate a real bottleneck.
At my own place of work, even the QA gets i7 machines complete with Radeon 6600 GPUs and 8 GB RAM (the rest of us get Haswell and Sandy i5s). But still using pokey HDDs. Even Excel is rarely used. Were I in charge of IT, most everyone would be on Celerons/Pentiums (the non-Atom ones), 4 GB RAM, and 64 GB SSDs.

At the very least, A) The OS installations are keps clean/free of resource hogging security.
B) The machines are rented from an OEM at apparently a very deep discount.
 
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Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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I hate slow computers and I've worked IT. Companies are too cheap to get decent computers then they just keep adding more and more background garbage on the computers that make them even slower. IT does not make the rules, they just do what they're told. If it was my choice everybody would have a SSD. In this day and age there is just no reason for a regular HDD for OS drive. For mass storage it's another story, but for OS the difference it makes is just too good to ignore. We actually went over IT's head in my department and we bought a SSD for our computers and we went from being ready in 45 minutes when doing a fresh boot to being ready in about 5 minutes.

We have core2duos (those are the faster machines, lot of departments are stuck with Pentium 4's) and they're working on upgrading us to windows 7, but not changing the hardware. It's going to be bloody slow. We're lucky enough to have 4GB of ram (which is still not enough especially for 7) but the ones with 1GB are going to suffer pretty badly.

The good news is it looks like these computers might be able to handle more than 4GB so we might eventually just upgrade the ram ourselves. You do what you gotta do to do your job lol. Though I don't know if more ram will fix GDI resources. I find that's a bigger problem than actual memory. You hit a point where windows don't draw properly and stuff. Can't even take a full screenshot if I have to, not enough ram. Sometimes it works, but it comes up as monochrome.
 

Smoblikat

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Indeed

I think the users that complain a lot are creating a boy who cried wolf situation, which jades the IT folk into thinking everybody is full of shit when there's some real problems out there. A good IT person knows the users well enough to know when certain people complain, it actually means something because they usually know how to handle simple computer issues on their own. A bad IT person says "everyone's computer is slow", and they also don't seem to give a F(?).

Believe me, I know who is full of it and who isnt, I just got cut a task by my director and supervisor to reach out to everyone who is full of it and "fix everything".
 

kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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Dear Users,

Faster hardware is paid for by executives who allocate funds.

The executives have very nice computers, and get new ones every year or two.

Incidentally, they also think everything is nice and fast and don't see why we need a quarter million dollars a year for new desktops in the cubicle farm, since all you guys do is Excel and Word, but they have to use heavy duty multimedia applications like Powerpoint. So, we didn't get the funding, and any new computers will be purchased at Best Buy, then equipped with 160GB, 5400rpm hard drives pulled from the old ones.

In order to comply with new security rules pushed by the CIO, we will be implementing deep packet inspection on all production (cubicle farm) networks. (The network in the executive suite is exempt from this requirement, since they don't do source code or code review.) This will slow things down considerably, since we can't afford a new firewall with a requisite beefy CPU - we are simply enabling packet inspection on our 20-year-old firewall appliance made by that company that went bankrupt because its products performed so poorly.

Pursuant to the other recommendations made by the consulting company that the CIO hired (his son runs it - nice guy, you'd like him. He bought us hamburgers.), we will now be enforcing a required password change every 30 days. Your password will need to be at least 18 characters long, contain at least three uppercase letters, one number, and two special characters. The system will remember the last 87 passwords you used, so no fair recycling.

The CIO also came back last week from the annual FreeBSD Developer's conference in Las Vegas last month. (He was already in Vegas, so he took some vacation days.) Apparently, we are going to need to change some of our core servers from Windows to FreeBSD, because it is free. However, we aren't getting any new reqs from HR to hire people who are experienced FreeBSD sysadmins. So please bear with us while we figure out how this stuff works. (Steve says it's kinda like Linux.)

We got a book called "UNIX for Dummies" but if anybody else has some recommendations, we'd appreciate them. The CIO gave us a $100 gift card to Barnes & Noble for training materials.

Sincerely,

IT

Nightmarishly real. :thumbsup:

I'm looking forward to "Bring Your Kids to Work... as summer interns" when we get to be enthralled by college students with 3 CompSci courses under their belts telling us all the things we should do to improve things, while having no real-world experience to understand why some things are done the way they are.

"Yes, that may seem like a good idea. But we have a expensive and capable source code control package that manages all source code changes, configurations and compiles. So we don't really need to increase everyone's mailbox capacity to 100GB so the development teams can share large executables more effectively. Also, ripped DVD videos aren't appropriate to put on the server, and no, I won't tell you how we knew about them."
 

RadiclDreamer

Diamond Member
Aug 8, 2004
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I love it when IT chooses and pushes out the most inefficient encryption and security scanning software, bringing most computers to their knees.

That's great, IT guy, that it ran fine on your Core i7, 8+ GB RAM, SSD "test" machine when most of the company is still running on 4GB, 5400rpm HD machines...

I really should have logged on from home every night, on battery power, so I could get a little free heat while my laptop was pegged, doing nothing productive most of the time.

If it were up to IT we wouldn't give a shit about encryption, its the laws and lawyers that make this shit a requirement. And for the record ANY encryption software without an OPAL drive is going to run like shit.

Same goes for nearly every other policy that doesnt seem to make much sense.

Sincerely,

IT guys that dont want it either.
 

cbrunny

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Oct 12, 2007
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An SSD was going to accidentally fall into my laptop...then I got a new laptop that had one already. I did buy more RAM for it myself, though.

I had thought abotu that but I'm pretty sure I'd just end up losing both the ssd and the ram. I don't really want to pay for more ram though. Hmm.. Maybe I can just dig some out of a box at home...
 

glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
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PSA to CIO:

Kindly keep your IT monkeys locked down in the basement and working the oars where they belong, their complaining is bothering the real workers.

P.S. Remember we're looking for an excuse to offshore you all anyway.

 

Smoblikat

Diamond Member
Nov 19, 2011
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If it were up to IT we wouldn't give a shit about encryption, its the laws and lawyers that make this shit a requirement. And for the record ANY encryption software without an OPAL drive is going to run like shit.

Same goes for nearly every other policy that doesnt seem to make much sense.

Sincerely,

IT guys that dont want it either.

This so much ^^

We are using DDPE over here and it literally makes once fine systems useless paper weights.
 

vi edit

Elite Member
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Oct 28, 1999
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Can't wait to hear the backlash later this summer when mandatory compliance of AirWatch is required to get company email and calendars on personal devices. Of course IT will get blamed for that even though it's the lawyers and risk management that said "MAKE IT SO!".

We don't want anything to do with it either.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Compliance is always a nightmare. Standards change and regulatory bodies cant change their policies with little warning and little time to comply.
 

glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
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Compliance is always a nightmare. Standards change and regulatory bodies cant change their policies with little warning and little time to comply.

Happens all the time in finance, regulators come up with this stuff and only give minimal consideration to level of effort to implement. We suffered through quarters and years where compliance stuff took up all the budget and space on the IT roadmap crowding out every other project no matter how needed. That's when stuff which is only half joking like "we test in PROD" goes from 'happens sometimes in practice' to 'becomes the actual plan'.
 

jlee

Lifer
Sep 12, 2001
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PSA to CIO:

Kindly keep your IT monkeys locked down in the basement and working the oars where they belong, their complaining is bothering the real workers.

P.S. Remember we're looking for an excuse to offshore you all anyway.


lol didn't Target try that? Then they made international news for a major security breach. :awe:
 

Brovane

Diamond Member
Dec 18, 2001
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When I first started at my current work place back in 1999 we had a policy of 1/3 replacement of the PC's every year, so we had a 3 year refresh period on PC's. People still bitched about slow PC's etc. Now we have 4 year refresh period and the same level of bitching. However moving onto the server side of things, I hear about it a lot less. Recently we have a corporate supply chain group that has taken over purchasing and in order for Dell to hit the price-points they wanted they had to move down a level in PC's so now even the new PC's are not that great. At least we are all on windows 7 with 8GB's of RAM and 64-bit OS's. My friend who was the client support supervisor had a e-mail fight with supply chain about 2-years ago over SSD's. Supply chain wanted to stop ordering SSD's on laptop because it saved like $20. He had to create a big report showing the increased speed, less data loss since SSD's are more reliable than Hard disk's etc. before supply chain backed down. I am so glad on the Server/Storage side I am no longer involved on the desktop side of things.
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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PSA to CIO:

Kindly keep your IT monkeys locked down in the basement and working the oars where they belong, their complaining is bothering the real workers.

P.S. Remember we're looking for an excuse to offshore you all anyway.


IT to CIO: We're cool in the basement, but that offshoring thing... The old CIO offshored us before, now we're back and they are gone.
 
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