PSA: Walmart ain't the best place to get your tires mounted

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If you're going to claim that a Wal-Mart mechanic screwed up your car you should be aware they have a big staff of lawyers. If you have them change any fluid you should check it yourself before you start the car.
 

Meghan54

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My tires are the highest rated all seasons on tirerack and were the best all seasons by consumer reports... Hankook H727's.


Don't know what the fusk you've been reading, but at CR, those Hankook H727's aren't even recommended, much less rated "best" all seasons.

In order of "finish" in all season tires, Michelin Defender, Continental ProContact EcoPlus, Goodyear Assurance, Pirelli P4, Michelin Energy Saver, and Yokohama Avid Ascend. The Hankooks placed 4 spots lower than the Avids, with the unrecommended Uniroyal Tiger Paw Touring, Falken Sincera Touring, and Cooper CS4 Touring above the Hankooks.

Now, they are ranked 3rd on TireRack, behind Firestone Precision Touring and Michelin Defenders. But nowhere do any Hankook tires top any chart.
 

Jimzz

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waggy

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best tires i ever had were some walmart specials. I put them on my Accord and while they were rated for 35k miles i got close to 50.

not bad for $30 each

only issue is people said they were loud. I didn't notice
 

TridenT

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Don't know what the fusk you've been reading, but at CR, those Hankook H727's aren't even recommended, much less rated "best" all seasons.

In order of "finish" in all season tires, Michelin Defender, Continental ProContact EcoPlus, Goodyear Assurance, Pirelli P4, Michelin Energy Saver, and Yokohama Avid Ascend. The Hankooks placed 4 spots lower than the Avids, with the unrecommended Uniroyal Tiger Paw Touring, Falken Sincera Touring, and Cooper CS4 Touring above the Hankooks.

Now, they are ranked 3rd on TireRack, behind Firestone Precision Touring and Michelin Defenders. But nowhere do any Hankook tires top any chart.


O RLY?

Like I said, it was in a past consumer reports that they were recommended. I don't keep a current subscription. You can post a screenshot of their charts from today, if you want to really verify that for us all. The Michelin Defender's are slightly higher ranked than the Hankook's these days, but they have 1/4 the amount of miles reviewed on them too. So, meh.

Maybe they're not recommended anymore in 2013, but they were and have been. They continue to be a very good tire for the money, if not THE BEST TIRE FOR THE MONEY. Are you that nvidia shill from over in fucking video cards and graphics? Did Michelin start paying you too?

The Michelin's are $100 more than the ones I bought. Are they $100 better? I highly doubt it. EDIT: Not including the rebates. I don't know if Michelin's have any. I know my Hankook's have a $40 MIR that I just sent in. So, a $140 difference unless the Michelin's have a rebate too.

 
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brianmanahan

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Some of us don't have a lot of money. >.>

do you make enough money to get your tires rotated at walmart yet?

edit: in my defense, i only bumped this because i searched google for 'walmart mount tires' and this thread came up second :awe:
 
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TridenT

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do you make enough money to get your tires rotated at walmart yet?

edit: in my defense, i only bumped this because i searched google for 'walmart mount tires' and this thread came up second :awe:

I took them to Discount tire actually. $74. Includes lifetime balance and all. Also bought the tires through them so the warranty is good there too.

I'm satisfied.
 

brianmanahan

Lifer
Sep 2, 2006
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I took them to Discount tire actually. $74. Includes lifetime balance and all. Also bought the tires through them so the warranty is good there too.

I'm satisfied.

nice. i actually didn't realize but there is a discount tire not far off my drive home from work, i will check them out.
 

Svnla

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I recently did have to get a new tire to replace one with puncture on the sidewall. Sams Club charged $15 per tire for an installation package (mount, balance, rotate, etc) and $2 disposable fee and then of course, the sale tax.

So if you want to do all four tires, tire cost x 4 plus $68 (installation package) plus sale tax. I did an estimate for 4 brand new tires (Goodyear) and the final cost was about $500 out the door at Sams.
 
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thecoolnessrune

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While I'm getting my usual stuff done (oil change usually), the mechanic I go to will rotate or mount / balance my winters / all-seasons for about $50. Good deal while I'm getting my other stuff done and I know they finish with a properly set torque wrench, which lots of places don't do (they just hit it with an air wrench till it's good enough for them).
 

Engineer

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do you make enough money to get your tires rotated at walmart yet?

Walmart techs don't know what the hell they are doing when it comes to rotating tires, at least here in Lexington. Anything other than swapping the fronts and rears on the same side is too difficult for any of them to comprehend (and that includes giving them a diagram from the manufacturer).
 

NutBucket

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Aug 30, 2000
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They're probably taught to only go front to rear. That's what I've always done (directional tires in my case).
 

desura

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On tire tread...my LRR Michelin's are the OEM tire...at 73k on the car. Still plenty of tread left.
 

JCH13

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My tires are the highest rated all seasons on tirerack and were the best all seasons by consumer reports... Hankook H727's. They don't last that long though. Between 35,000-45,000 is what you might get out of them. I can't remember my cars mileage exactly, but I got <45,000 out of those tires. Closer to 38,000 if I am remembering mileage correctly.

I changed them when they were barely at the top to just below of Lincoln's head on a penny. I knew the tires wouldn't last 7,000 more miles in the reliable way that I needed. EDIT: They weren't down to the wear-markers yet, but getting there.

This post is just straight-up lulzy.

The H727 ranked 7/21 in its category of standard all-season tires on TR. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Optimo+H727&partnum=255TR8H727

It also has a 5 year 100k mile treadlife warranty, so only getting 35-45k seems laughable. If you're smoking tires that fast you ought to get your alignment checked.

Related points:

1) Don't take your car to a department store for service, especially not one that specializes in sacrificing quality
2) $80 is a decent price to change tires. But I'd expect to get RoadForce mounting and balancing for that price.
3) Your tires are the most important parts on your car. Your life and the lives of those around you depend heavily on your tires working properly. Don't cheap out on buying, installing, or maintaining them. The cost of tires is a small fraction of the TCO of a car.
 

TridenT

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This post is just straight-up lulzy.

The H727 ranked 7/21 in its category of standard all-season tires on TR. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Optimo+H727&partnum=255TR8H727

It also has a 5 year 100k mile treadlife warranty, so only getting 35-45k seems laughable. If you're smoking tires that fast you ought to get your alignment checked.

Related points:

1) Don't take your car to a department store for service, especially not one that specializes in sacrificing quality
2) $80 is a decent price to change tires. But I'd expect to get RoadForce mounting and balancing for that price.
3) Your tires are the most important parts on your car. Your life and the lives of those around you depend heavily on your tires working properly. Don't cheap out on buying, installing, or maintaining them. The cost of tires is a small fraction of the TCO of a car.

I rotated them frequently. The alignment was fine too. I just happen to be a pretty aggressive driver. And whenever I created this thread, they were the highest rated or close to. They may have changed in the years since...
 

OverVolt

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People who make $100k get their tires at walmart?

Also please dear lord get the proper tires for your driving habits. Touring tires are for ride quality and comfort. Stop killing the sidewalls by cornering in a non-sports car because it likely has positive camber while cornering.

Get a tire with a stiffer sidewall and less tread life if you're going to wear out the toe anyway. High treadlife tires generally have deep tread at the beginning but don't really like being cornered on.
 

tortillasoup

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People who make $100k get their tires at walmart?

Also please dear lord get the proper tires for your driving habits. Touring tires are for ride quality and comfort. Stop killing the sidewalls by cornering in a non-sports car because it likely has positive camber while cornering.

Get a tire with a stiffer sidewall and less tread life if you're going to wear out the toe anyway. High treadlife tires generally have deep tread at the beginning but don't really like being cornered on.
Tire pressure goes a long way to preventing wear along the edges of the tires if you drive aggressively. I've had no problem driving aggressively on economy tires.
 

JCH13

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I rotated them frequently. The alignment was fine too. I just happen to be a pretty aggressive driver. And whenever I created this thread, they were the highest rated or close to. They may have changed in the years since...

So, on a car where you bitch about paying $80 to have a set of tires mounted and balanced, you've had an alignment performed recently? You've kept up on all suspension component inspection and replacement? AND you've completely ignored the treadlife warranty that would have gotten you a portion of your money back?

Are you familiar with an old robot saying: "does not compute?"
 
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tortillasoup

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So, on a car where you bitch about paying $80 to have a set of tires mounted and balanced, you've had an alignment performed recently? You've kept up on all suspension component inspection and replacement? AND you've completely ignored the treadlife warranty that would have gotten you a portion of your money back?

Are you familiar with an old robot saying: "does not compute?"
$80 for mount and balance is a little high, probably could get it done for $60 depending on the tire size. I've gotten an alignment with coupon done for about $80 but the thing is, unless it's wearing unevenly, getting an alignment probably isn't necessary.
 

JCH13

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$80 for mount and balance is a little high, probably could get it done for $60 depending on the tire size. I've gotten an alignment with coupon done for about $80 but the thing is, unless it's wearing unevenly, getting an alignment probably isn't necessary.

*shrug* I'm used to 80-100ish for mounting and balancing with RoadForce machines. A local shop does $12/corner for mounting, balancing, and disposal with a old school machine. The cost difference of around one tank of gas that you pay every 2-6 years... it shouldn't be a big deal for someone who properly budgets for car ownership.

The reason for bringing up alignment is that when someone kills 100k mile warrantied tires in 35-45k they were doing something REALLY bad and/or are mistaken/lying out their ass. Trying to give trident the benefit of the doubt that he wasn't just lying to us by asking about his alignment, which may cause crazy wear. More to the point - camber being out will cause un-even side-to-side wear, improper tire pressure can cause the center or edges to wear unevenly, but toe being way out can cause wear that is both rapid and even across the tread. It would be a mistake to think that an alignment is good because you don't see uneven wear.

See: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=4

Incorrect alignment settings will usually result in more rapid tire wear. Therefore, alignment should be checked whenever new tires or suspension components are installed, and any time unusual tire wear patterns appear.

[...]

Additionally the vehicle's toe is one of the most critical alignment settings relative to tire wear. A toe setting that is just a little off its appropriate setting can make a huge difference in their wear. Consider that if the toe setting is just 1/16-inch off of its appropriate setting, each tire on that axle will scrub almost seven feet sideways every mile! Extend it out and you'll discover that rather than running parallel to each other, the front tires will scrub over 1/4-mile sideways during every 100 miles of driving! Incorrect toe will rob you of tire life.
 

OverVolt

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Tire pressure goes a long way to preventing wear along the edges of the tires if you drive aggressively. I've had no problem driving aggressively on economy tires.
The edges are feathering on my OEM Contipro's because the sidewall is so thin/weak as a LRR tire. I run them at 35/36 PSI and the recommendation is 33PSI. They are EXTREMELY sensitive to low psi. 28 PSI causes drivability issues. The outer toe is chunking even. The toe is feathered, and they are 3 PSI over.

Its from high temperature highway travel. The particular highways near me are in the mountains and it was a hot summer. So applying 25-50% throttle for 26 miles up a 6% grade while turning the whole time in 100F heat is too much for a LRR/Grand touring tire. I didn't even drive aggressively on them. Typical speed in the 70mph zone is 85mph or so if you coast down a 20-30mile 6% grade. There are rather sharp turns as well... probably the sharpest allowed by law on a highway. So you either wear your brakes/rotors or your tires. Low gearing isn't an option with a speed limit of 70mph. Plus the engine would never get a break, you're doing 3-4k rpm for like 10-20 miles at a time uphill.

Due to all the turns/inclines/grades and the effects of aerodynamics on handling at those speeds it mostly feels like I'm flying through the mountains rather than driving.

So yea... please match your tires to your needs. These OEM tires are garbage for my needs. I need performance tires just to go places and I will need performance winter studless tires come winter time.

You can probably chunk 10-15k miles off the life of your tires in one dumbass maneuver with something like a Goodyear Assurance tripletread. You guys probably aren't just inspecting your tires closely enough. Which is another thing, don't drive aggressively if you aren't inspecting your tires.
 
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jlee

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The edges are feathering on my OEM Contipro's because the sidewall is so thin/weak as a LRR tire. I run them at 35/36 PSI and the recommendation is 33PSI. They are EXTREMELY sensitive to low psi. 28 PSI causes drivability issues. The outer toe is chunking even. The toe is feathered, and they are 3 PSI over.

Its from high temperature highway travel. The particular highways near me are in the mountains and it was a hot summer. So applying 25-50% throttle for 26 miles up a 6% grade while turning the whole time in 100F heat is too much for a LRR/Grand touring tire. I didn't even drive aggressively on them. Typical speed in the 70mph zone is 85mph or so if you coast down a 20-30mile 6% grade. There are rather sharp turns as well... probably the sharpest allowed by law on a highway. So you either wear your brakes/rotors or your tires. Low gearing isn't an option with a speed limit of 70mph. Plus the engine would never get a break, you're doing 3-4k rpm for like 10-20 miles at a time uphill.

Due to all the turns/inclines/grades and the effects of aerodynamics on handling at those speeds it mostly feels like I'm flying through the mountains rather than driving.

So yea... please match your tires to your needs. These OEM tires are garbage for my needs. I need performance tires just to go places and I will need performance winter studless tires come winter time.

You can probably chunk 10-15k miles off the life of your tires in one dumbass maneuver with something like a Goodyear Assurance tripletread. You guys probably aren't just inspecting your tires closely enough. Which is another thing, don't drive aggressively if you aren't inspecting your tires.


Outer wear like this?

 
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