PSUs Best Sellers on Amazon

Torn Mind

Lifer
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Looks like EVGA is legion. They occupy so many rankings, it is just wow. Corsair is the next most prominent.

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers.../ref=zg_bs_1161760_pg_4?_encoding=UTF8&pg=4#1

Although, people are still seduced by wattage/$. The following (BAD) units are rolling in the cash for their respective companies.
The Sentey XPP725-HS Xplus is 7th on the list.
The Logisys
PS480D2 comes in at 23rd.
The Apevia ATX-VS450W 450W Power Supply comes in at 41st.
The Logisys P550A-BK comes in at 60th.
The Coolmax I-500. https://www.amazon.com/Coolmax-I-500-500W-Power-Supply/dp/B0081H7EDK/ref=zg_bs_1161760_61
A camera power supply comes in at 100. https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-106876-Channel-Camera-Supply/dp/B0069MIBLS/ref=zg_bs_1161760_100
 
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VirtualLarry

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Where's Antec in all of this? Seems kind of like they're not even trying anymore. They make nice PSUs, but they don't compete on price at all, and it seems like Corsair outlives them on warranty, so where does that leave Antec?
 

lehtv

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Antec's fallen behind long ago. Their last competitive products, in either cases or power supplies, were probably High Current Gamer M series from 2013.
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
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This is only sales volume relative to other products, if I understand the ranking correctly.

It probably didn't help Antec that people thought Delta Electronics is "inferior" after seeing worse ripple control on an Earthwatts review unit compared to previous Seasonic-based PSUs.

The VP450 is on the list in the 50s though and the 380D is currently 103. The BP350 is at #181. But the rest are not hot tickets.

The High Current Pro is expensive and the big units can't keep a hold-up time of less than 16 ms. Only the 850W could. But with stuff like the Seasonic Prime or even Raidmax's 80 Plus Titanium unit, they are behind even there.

Pretty much, if it isn't two of following, but not all: cheap, good quality brand, and "MOAR WATTAGE", people won't buy the PSUs on Amazon. The Antec Edg, for example is in the 600s ranking wise.
 

Leyawiin

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I own #1. Its actually been pretty darn good over the two years I've had it. Plenty of power given the modest requirements of Intel CPUs and Nvidia GPUs I tend to use. Quiet too.
 

UsandThem

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Not really surprised by any of them on the least, outside of the Sentey. Although I've noticed when I'm checking prices on power supplies, Sentey ads appear on the page all the time. So I imagine a lot of people looking at higher-quality units see the low price on it, the glowing user reviews, and buy it.

I'd love to see a professional review on it, and one opened up to see the build quality of it. Someone asked about it at JonnyGuru, and he gave some initial thoughts about it, and mentioned it might be time to do another "gutless wonder" roundup. He also mentioned it does't have active PFC due to the 115/230v manual switch on the back.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-13225.html

At least none of the other units on that page would be what we would call "dangerous" like a no-name Chinese unit, or a Logisys unit.

I think most people just don't look at power supply purchases being that interesting. They just want it to work. To them it's not a fancy new video card or a new 'toy'.

I actually have the EVGA (#2 on the list) I got on sale as emergency back-up / testing unit. And I built my youngest son's computer and used a Corsair CX unit back in 2012, and it hasn't had any issues at all. Of course when you hold it and a EVGA SuperNova G2 in hand at the same time, it is considerably lighter. However, the next time I build him a computer in 2-3 years, I'll probably use a unit with better ratings so it hopefully will last him through the last couple years of high school and college.
 

DrMrLordX

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Definitely time for another "gutless wonder" roundup! Epic PSU fail is the best stuff evar.

Love seein that Logisys and Coolmax stuff high in the top 100! Consumers are smarter than ever!

edit: words to live by:

Power Supply MUST be installed in the PC computer in order to work..The Sentey XPP725-HS power supply features a special Sandy Black scratch resistant coating that combined with its ample connectors provide a pleasing and imposing aesthetic with a unique and functional design that combines modern aesthetics with the power of a high-end product, this model is a great desktop and gaming power supply

It's imposing!!!!! But don't run it outside of the PC computer or it will not work.
 
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Torn Mind

Lifer
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Not really surprised by any of them on the least, outside of the Sentey. Although I've noticed when I'm checking prices on power supplies, Sentey ads appear on the page all the time. So I imagine a lot of people looking at higher-quality units see the low price on it, the glowing user reviews, and buy it.

I'd love to see a professional review on it, and one opened up to see the build quality of it. Someone asked about it at JonnyGuru, and he gave some initial thoughts about it, and mentioned it might be time to do another "gutless wonder" roundup. He also mentioned it does't have active PFC due to the 115/230v manual switch on the back.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-13225.html

At least none of the other units on that page would be what we would call "dangerous" like a no-name Chinese unit, or a Logisys unit.

I think most people just don't look at power supply purchases being that interesting. They just want it to work. To them it's not a fancy new video card or a new 'toy'.

I actually have the EVGA (#2 on the list) I got on sale as emergency back-up / testing unit. And I built my youngest son's computer and used a Corsair CX unit back in 2012, and it hasn't had any issues at all. Of course when you hold it and a EVGA SuperNova G2 in hand at the same time, it is considerably lighter. However, the next time I build him a computer in 2-3 years, I'll probably use a unit with better ratings so it hopefully will last him through the last couple years of high school and college.
I suspect the cookies pop up after you visit the page to "remind" you to buy the Sentey. I have had that happen for other products on other sites.

PSUs ARE uninteresting because you cannot tangibly check their operation with the human senses except for the fan, so buying one is really a shot in the dark and you don't know what should to look for unless you come across Hardware Secrets and the like. So, when someone changes one, be it due to necessity for a GPU or fearmongering of the "evil OEM" units, ignorant people can fall right into a trap of an even less capable PSU than the OEM one. This is not likely as it was in the pre-2010 era, but I'm sure it happened quite a bit. Going too cheap will necessarily result in bad results, be it a cheap OEM PSU(eMachines) or an off-the-shelf big wattage for low-price unit.

But there is an anal-rententive streak about buying them among the internet community. How awful OEM units are and you must buy a "name brand". How a little more ripple is like arsenic or voltage regulation of 3% is something to avoid.
If the PSU:
1. delivers its rated wattage
2. delivers it with in-spec ripple control
3. passes anything else in the ATX standard, like required protections

That PSU is already a cut above the "scam-level" dangerous ones. The HEC EVGA and latest Thermaltake TR2 are pretty safe buys for most basic boxes and even light gaming rigs. The miniscule shortening of motherboard life may or may not be real, but for such light power draw, will it really matter?

No one should spend more than $70 for a PSU unless they are really looking for something tangibly premium in terms of noise, longevity, and/or stable overclocking. Because at $70, a Seasonic G-series 450 or 550 watt can be taken home with pretty much all the stumbling blocks of PSU operations are not present, aside from random failures.
 

DrMrLordX

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No one should spend more than $70 for a PSU unless they are really looking for something tangibly premium in terms of noise, longevity, and/or stable overclocking.

OC stability is a good thing though, at least for those of us who still do it. So I don't mind spending a little more for that.

Also, you have to be careful where you spend your $70 even if you set that as your upper limit. There are some poor quality supplies out there with premium prices.
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
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OC stability is a good thing though, at least for those of us who still do it. So I don't mind spending a little more for that.

Also, you have to be careful where you spend your $70 even if you set that as your upper limit. There are some poor quality supplies out there with premium prices.
I'm just saying that at that price point, units do exist that contain both the "safe operation" circuitry you can put in a PSU, proper filtering down to a very low level, having a smooth voltage rise, and sufficient hold-up time, such as Seasonic's G-series or the Rosewill Capstones.
 

bigboxes

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Definitely time for another "gutless wonder" roundup! Epic PSU fail is the best stuff evar.

Love seein that Logisys and Coolmax stuff high in the top 100! Consumers are smarter than ever!

edit: words to live by:



It's imposing!!!!! But don't run it outside of the PC computer or it will not work.

Thanks for the laugh!
 

bigboxes

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I buy nothing but Seasonic for my builds, but I put an Antec Earthwatts in my wife's build a couple of years ago. Also have an Antec Earthwatts that I use for backup/testing. I believe they are Seaonic built. I don't buy power supplies because they are on sale. I'll leave that to my customers. I buy what I want and look for the best price, not the other way around.
 

DrMrLordX

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I'm just saying that at that price point, units do exist that contain both the "safe operation" circuitry you can put in a PSU, proper filtering down to a very low level, having a smooth voltage rise, and sufficient hold-up time, such as Seasonic's G-series or the Rosewill Capstones.

Yeah, those Capstone units are actually pretty good. Some of the higher-Wattage ones reviewed fairly well on jonnyguru if I recall correctly. Granted I think those are the units that are over $70 but whatever.

Point is, choose carefully, and you can do well in that range. Choose poorly and . . .

Thanks for the laugh!

Bogus PSUs have been making me chuckle for years. Maybe it's cruel to laugh at the eventual misfortune of others, but still, watching reviewers skewer brands/OEMs like Deer has been great fun.
 

UsandThem

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The worst PSU ever tested according to Oklahoma Wolf at JonnyGuru:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&file=print&reid=324

I've tested a few cheap units during my time here at the site. Each time I do it, I'm amazed by how much corner cutting goes on out there. Last time, with that Sunbeam unit, I really thought we'd hit bottom. We'd sunk to the lowest level. Seen the worst of the worst. I was wrong. This is, to date, the worst unit I've ever seen. And I do not type those words lightly. It is dangerous to use one of these, and not just to your system... it's dangerous to you as a human being as well.

Performance
0
Functionality
2
Value
0
Build Quality
0
Total Score
0.4



 

Torn Mind

Lifer
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Yeah, those Capstone units are actually pretty good. Some of the higher-Wattage ones reviewed fairly well on jonnyguru if I recall correctly. Granted I think those are the units that are over $70 but whatever.

Point is, choose carefully, and you can do well in that range. Choose poorly and . . .
It is The Capstone 550 and 650 are currently $65.

Questionable or bad units also exist in the $100 area. The Lepa MaxBron failed the ATX ripple spec. I wouldn't trust Apevia either. Not many other duds on Newegg, but if the goal is avoid even one instance of a bad unit, price alone cannot sift out all of the duds.
 

Torn Mind

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The only HEC EVGA that doesn't make sense is the 400W EVGA one with no 80 Plus, and that is because of the power savings from its bigger brothers means less operating costs in the long run. For "stock boxes" and even light gaming, they will operate in accordance with the ATX spec and not destroy anything, and should last at least the warranty period.

The trodding over of sufficiently good PSUs in terms of power delivery by misguided enthusiasts. These PSUs are not as good as 70 dollar Seasonic, but they are NOT the destroyers and torturers the PSU snobs make them out to be.
 
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