PSX streaming live right now - new Uncharted just revealed.

purbeast0

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The Last of Us Part 2 just got revealed too. That game is going to look incredible.
 

Lil Frier

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Didn't even know this existed. I thought A Thief's End would be the final release in that Uncharted franchise, but I guess not. Neither that nor The Last of Us 2 would interest me, so I'll be fishing through the Internet news at what else was announced.
 

Lil Frier

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Looking it over, I'm not impressed. The game I most want to hear more about is Detroit: Become Human, and it looks to be absent. Nice of them to make both The Last of Us 2 AND Uncharted be led by female characters, because we haven't had enough of that forced down our throats lately (seriously, when was the last time we got a new IP with a white male at the front and nothing else?). But, again, I care about neither of those.

I still can't help but hate them for putting Griffey on The Show when Kris Bryant 100% should be there after following up Rookie of the Year with an MVP award and helping the Cubs win the World Series. I mean, that's something you can't make up for in the future, missing the boat for the Cubs' ending the WS drought. If he's the cover guy next year, cool, but not the same.

The article I found didn't have the trailer for Horizon in it, so I couldn't check in on that, but with no mention of Detroit this remains the only thing other than baseball to grab my interest from Sony in 2016 (given it looks like Detroit's nowhere close). Well, the Kingdom Hearts stuff is also there, but those are all remasters, so not quite the same.

Nioh looks like they took The Witcher and threw it into the bowels of hell or something. Kind of a Witcher-Devil May Cry mashup feel. Gran Turismo might interest me if there isn't a Forza Motorsport, but since I have an Xbox, it's just hard to care about the second-best racing franchise on console (given there are two ways to enjoy the Forza franchise now).

Lot of disappointment and generally uninteresting stuff there, for me.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Damn that new Uncharted looks sweet, that'll be a must buy for me along with TLOU 2. Every time I see The Last Guardian though I don't get the hype, it looks like a mid generation PS3 game. Still, 2017 is looking like an amazing year for PS4 with Days Gone, Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, Red Dead Redemption 2 and probably Uncharted Lost Legacy. I imagine we won't see TLOU 2 until Christmas 2018 at the earliest though.
 

purbeast0

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Yeah I'd be shocked if TLOU2 is a 2017 game. He made it like overly clear that the game is in really early development.
 

cmdrdredd

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Damn that new Uncharted looks sweet, that'll be a must buy for me along with TLOU 2. Every time I see The Last Guardian though I don't get the hype, it looks like a mid generation PS3 game. Still, 2017 is looking like an amazing year for PS4 with Days Gone, Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, Red Dead Redemption 2 and probably Uncharted Lost Legacy. I imagine we won't see TLOU 2 until Christmas 2018 at the earliest though.

Last guardian is a puzzle art game so it won't appeal to many. It looks dated because that is Team ICO's style. I don't know if God of War will make it next year, wouldn't be surprised to see that one given an extra bit of time. I don't know how long they have been working on it though.
 

cmdrdredd

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Looking it over, I'm not impressed. The game I most want to hear more about is Detroit: Become Human, and it looks to be absent. Nice of them to make both The Last of Us 2 AND Uncharted be led by female characters, because we haven't had enough of that forced down our throats lately (seriously, when was the last time we got a new IP with a white male at the front and nothing else?). But, again, I care about neither of those.

I still can't help but hate them for putting Griffey on The Show when Kris Bryant 100% should be there after following up Rookie of the Year with an MVP award and helping the Cubs win the World Series. I mean, that's something you can't make up for in the future, missing the boat for the Cubs' ending the WS drought. If he's the cover guy next year, cool, but not the same.

The article I found didn't have the trailer for Horizon in it, so I couldn't check in on that, but with no mention of Detroit this remains the only thing other than baseball to grab my interest from Sony in 2016 (given it looks like Detroit's nowhere close). Well, the Kingdom Hearts stuff is also there, but those are all remasters, so not quite the same.

Nioh looks like they took The Witcher and threw it into the bowels of hell or something. Kind of a Witcher-Devil May Cry mashup feel. Gran Turismo might interest me if there isn't a Forza Motorsport, but since I have an Xbox, it's just hard to care about the second-best racing franchise on console (given there are two ways to enjoy the Forza franchise now).

Lot of disappointment and generally uninteresting stuff there, for me.

Nioh looks more like Onimusha than anything else to me.
 

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I saw the last of us 2 earlier today. I cannot wait for that game. The Last of Us is by far my favorite game ever. Naughty Dog is my favorite game dev. And the new Uncharted looks great. Best news in gaming I've heard in awhile for sure. Gonna be a wait but it will be worth it.
 

HOOfan 1

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The Last of Us 2 is likely 2019...maybe even 2020.

I don't understand people contemplating that Ellie is going to kill Joel or have a falling out with Joel. There was nothing at the end of the first game, and NOTHING in this trailer that indicated that Joel and Ellie have a failing relationship. The best fan theory I have read so far is that the Fireflies end up killing Joel and Ellie is on a mission to hunt them down and kill them, and that Joel in the trailer is just a figment of her imagination.

As for the Uncharted stand alone DLC. I am not nearly as fascinated with Nadine as everyone else seems to be. Chloe on the other hand, is along with Cutter my favorite non-Nate character in Uncharted. If Cutter isn't in this DLC, I will be pissed. Since this takes place after Uncharted 4, I don't see why Chloe would work with Nadine. I'm sure they both know of each other's relationships with Nathan.

I said after I finished Uncharted 4 and people were talking about another studio possibly continuing the Uncharted Series without Nathan and Elana, that I would LOVE to see a game series dedicated to Cutter and Chloe.

I am not sure God of War or Days Gone will be 2017 games either. Sony usually seems to announce their games around 2 years ahead of release.

What I am surprised hasn't been announced yet, is Sucker Punch's next game. It's been over 2 and a half years since their last full game came out
 

cmdrdredd

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The Last of Us 2 is likely 2019...maybe even 2020.

I don't understand people contemplating that Ellie is going to kill Joel or have a falling out with Joel. There was nothing at the end of the first game, and NOTHING in this trailer that indicated that Joel and Ellie have a failing relationship. The best fan theory I have read so far is that the Fireflies end up killing Joel and Ellie is on a mission to hunt them down and kill them, and that Joel in the trailer is just a figment of her imagination.

As for the Uncharted stand alone DLC. I am not nearly as fascinated with Nadine as everyone else seems to be. Chloe on the other hand, is along with Cutter my favorite non-Nate character in Uncharted. If Cutter isn't in this DLC, I will be pissed. Since this takes place after Uncharted 4, I don't see why Chloe would work with Nadine. I'm sure they both know of each other's relationships with Nathan.

I said after I finished Uncharted 4 and people were talking about another studio possibly continuing the Uncharted Series without Nathan and Elana, that I would LOVE to see a game series dedicated to Cutter and Chloe.

I am not sure God of War or Days Gone will be 2017 games either. Sony usually seems to announce their games around 2 years ahead of release.

What I am surprised hasn't been announced yet, is Sucker Punch's next game. It's been over 2 and a half years since their last full game came out

People always jump to wild speculation with reveal trailers. I think you are right about the 2017 releases. They will likely take more time.
 

HOOfan 1

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The Last of Us was first announced December of 2011 and released in June of 2013
Uncharted 4's first trailer came out in November of 2013. It was initially set to release in fall of 2015, but was pushed back to May of 2016

Neil Druckmann said they might not have even announced The Last of Us Part II until E3 in June of 2017.

If the game releases in 2018, it will be Q4. Account for delays and I think Q1 of 2019 is the earliest it will actually be released.
 

cmdrdredd

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The Last of Us was first announced December of 2011 and released in June of 2013
Uncharted 4's first trailer came out in November of 2013. It was initially set to release in fall of 2015, but was pushed back to May of 2016

Neil Druckmann said they might not have even announced The Last of Us Part II until E3 in June of 2017.

If the game releases in 2018, it will be Q4. Account for delays and I think Q1 of 2019 is the earliest it will actually be released.

Which is totally understandable. I don't think the game play and the engine will be a problem, it will be getting the right tone and feeling from the voice actors and creating the story for the game to live up to the first title.
 

sze5003

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I'm we excited for the last of us part 2. I'm actually replaying the first one on the pro now but I can't tell if it's native 4k or not.

As for uncharted, the dlc will be interesting. At the end of uncharted 4 I felt like they kind of left it open for another one. I also don't get why Nadine is in the dlc. I felt as if she wasn't such a big character in 4. Cutter is hilarious and it would be cool to see him back.





********SPOILER*******************************

I thought Drake's daughter would end up in the DLC but they didn't show any sign of it.
 

cmdrdredd

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If you set last of us for 30fps you are running native 4K. If you set it for 60fps it is 1080p
 

sze5003

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If you set last of us for 30fps you are running native 4K. If you set it for 60fps it is 1080p
Thanks I didn't know I had to go into options and do that. HDR was on since the beginning but I just now switched it to 30 fps. I think I see some difference.
 

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Sold my PS4 on the weekend, not using it that much. These games look pretty good though. Will probably pick up a Pro late next year when it's under $300 and I hopefully have a 4k OLED. Wish they'd upgrade Bloodborne tho...
 

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If you set last of us for 30fps you are running native 4K. If you set it for 60fps it is 1080p

As of patch 1.08 there are four modes for PS4 Pro:

If you have your PS4 Pro set to output to 1080p
1. 60 fps mode renders at native 1080p with high quality shadows
2. 30 fps mode renders at native 1080p with high quality shadows

If you have your PS4 Pro set to output to 4k
3. 60 fps mode renders at 1800p with low quality shadows
4. 30 fps mode renders at native 4k with high quality shadows

source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn8H0vOfIL0

On the initial version 1.07 there were only two modes:
1. 60 fps mode rendered at 1800p and either upscaled or downscaled to your TV's resolution
2. 30 fps mode rendered at 4k (and then downscaled if you were on a 1080p TV)
 

purbeast0

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As of patch 1.08 there are four modes for PS4 Pro:

If you have your PS4 Pro set to output to 1080p
1. 60 fps mode renders at native 1080p with high quality shadows
2. 30 fps mode renders at native 1080p with high quality shadows

If you have your PS4 Pro set to output to 4k
3. 60 fps mode renders at 1800p with low quality shadows
4. 30 fps mode renders at native 4k with high quality shadows

source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn8H0vOfIL0

On the initial version 1.07 there were only two modes:
1. 60 fps mode rendered at 1800p and either upscaled or downscaled to your TV's resolution
2. 30 fps mode rendered at 4k (and then downscaled if you were on a 1080p TV)
Consoles gaming has officially become PC gaming.
 

HOOfan 1

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I can see why there have been rumors that developers are not happy with PS4 Pro. So far it seems pretty much useless for anyone without a 4K display, and the developers are having to commit extra man hours to supporting the PS4 Pro for a much smaller audience. I imagine they would be even more pissed if Sony dictated that all games in the future need to support PSVR.
 

cmdrdredd

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Consoles gaming has officially become PC gaming.

Not really, you don't have to adjust detail sliders and guess at what works for your system. You just pick whether you want 60fps or 30fps with a little better detail.
 

cmdrdredd

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I can see why there have been rumors that developers are not happy with PS4 Pro. So far it seems pretty much useless for anyone without a 4K display, and the developers are having to commit extra man hours to supporting the PS4 Pro for a much smaller audience. I imagine they would be even more pissed if Sony dictated that all games in the future need to support PSVR.

We knew way ahead of time that they would have to devote more man hours for supporting the pro. I have seen some developers say that they are excited to be able to show their game off in a different way with the pro.

Also it is not really useless for people with a 1080p display. Some games that render above 1080p are down sampled so you get a better looking game anyway. Plus some games have 60fps modes that won't open up unless you have a pro.

I do think it would have been better to wait a couple more years then make a backward compatible ps5 with a larger performance jump. This is how things will be for the foreseeable future though, even the Scorpio from MS will basically be in the same boat as the pro. Since there can be no exclusive games for the newer console the devs will always have multiple performance targets.
 
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jlee

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Looking it over, I'm not impressed. The game I most want to hear more about is Detroit: Become Human, and it looks to be absent. Nice of them to make both The Last of Us 2 AND Uncharted be led by female characters, because we haven't had enough of that forced down our throats lately (seriously, when was the last time we got a new IP with a white male at the front and nothing else?). But, again, I care about neither of those.

I still can't help but hate them for putting Griffey on The Show when Kris Bryant 100% should be there after following up Rookie of the Year with an MVP award and helping the Cubs win the World Series. I mean, that's something you can't make up for in the future, missing the boat for the Cubs' ending the WS drought. If he's the cover guy next year, cool, but not the same.

The article I found didn't have the trailer for Horizon in it, so I couldn't check in on that, but with no mention of Detroit this remains the only thing other than baseball to grab my interest from Sony in 2016 (given it looks like Detroit's nowhere close). Well, the Kingdom Hearts stuff is also there, but those are all remasters, so not quite the same.

Nioh looks like they took The Witcher and threw it into the bowels of hell or something. Kind of a Witcher-Devil May Cry mashup feel. Gran Turismo might interest me if there isn't a Forza Motorsport, but since I have an Xbox, it's just hard to care about the second-best racing franchise on console (given there are two ways to enjoy the Forza franchise now).

Lot of disappointment and generally uninteresting stuff there, for me.
Seriously?

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-27824701
Studies have consistently shown that at least since the 1990s, the percentage of female characters in video games has remained steady at around 15%.

"It's amazing how little has changed," says University of Pennsylvania professor, Yasmin Kafai, the co-editor of one of the seminal books on gender in videogames, Beyond Barbie and Mortal Kombat, published in 2008.

While there have been exceptions - Lara Croft, in Tomb Raider, or 14-year-old Ellie in The Last of Us - the most recent data found that only 4% of the main characters in the top 25 selling videogames of 2013 were female.
 

cmdrdredd

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As of patch 1.08 there are four modes for PS4 Pro:

If you have your PS4 Pro set to output to 1080p
1. 60 fps mode renders at native 1080p with high quality shadows
2. 30 fps mode renders at native 1080p with high quality shadows

If you have your PS4 Pro set to output to 4k
3. 60 fps mode renders at 1800p with low quality shadows
4. 30 fps mode renders at native 4k with high quality shadows

source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn8H0vOfIL0

On the initial version 1.07 there were only two modes:
1. 60 fps mode rendered at 1800p and either upscaled or downscaled to your TV's resolution
2. 30 fps mode rendered at 4k (and then downscaled if you were on a 1080p TV)

So 1080p console mode makes no difference visually either way. Odd they didn't do 2800p down sampled. Why even offer a 30fps mode at all for them?
 
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