Public Employee Salaries

sactoking

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Sep 24, 2007
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As a side topic to the "Is it ok to ask how much someone makes thread", how about public-sector employees?

It seems like the overwhelming sentiment in the other thread is that it's rude to ask someone's salary and it's none of their business. So, do you support public employee compensation being forcibly made public through the Freedom of Information Act? I'd be interested to see how many people think that salary information is a "MYOB" item except for public sector employees.
 

Ns1

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you pay me = you should know how much you're paying me

you not paying me = mind your own fucking business
 

Engineer

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Every employee's pay should be made available to whomever pays them. That includes pay schedules upon request by stockholders of a company. If I own part of the company or pay public employees, I should have the information, no?
 

allthatisman

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I am a public employee and I think it's BS that names, titles, and the department you work for is all public knowledge. State pay scales are public, and I think that alone should be the extent of it. If a taxpayer wants to know how many of what classification works in a given department, they can submit a public records act request and the number of employees that are in that class(s) can be released to the public... not that it really matters, but I don't have a Facebook account for the same reasons...
 

thegimp03

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I lived in Sacramento when the Sacramento Bee published all the public employee salaries a few years ago - not sure if they still do it but I know the information is readily available...

Anyways, I remember there being a big uproar and all that from people in the public sector, but it was kind of interesting seeing what some of our next door neighbors and friends who work for the state and local governments make.
 

Pulsar

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I am a public employee and I think it's BS that names, titles, and the department you work for is all public knowledge. State pay scales are public, and I think that alone should be the extent of it. If a taxpayer wants to know how many of what classification works in a given department, they can submit a public records act request and the number of employees that are in that class(s) can be released to the public... not that it really matters, but I don't have a Facebook account for the same reasons...

Redact the names. That's fine. However, my taxes pay your money, and when one of you is making 6 figures taking out the garbage, I want to f'in know about it.

No offense, of course.
 

boomhower

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I'm a public employee and could care less. Publish it on the front page if you feel the need. I don't have anyone to impress and I dare anyone to claim I am overpaid for what I do.
 
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I spent the first six years of my professional career as a military attorney, then moved into the private sector. It seems to me that the taxpayers have a right to know where their money is going, within reason, and I have no problem with them knowing what people make. For the most part people in the public sector are paid market-appropriate rates, but if they aren't (I am thinking of those CA city executives whose salaries and pensions became public several months ago, and it turned out they were getting $250K-type money for serving a small city that couldn't possibly justify salaries like that), the public has a right to know and voice its opinion. Now that I'm a private employee, my compensation is between my partners and me unless I choose to tell someone else.
 

Slew Foot

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I lived in Sacramento when the Sacramento Bee published all the public employee salaries a few years ago - not sure if they still do it but I know the information is readily available...

Anyways, I remember there being a big uproar and all that from people in the public sector, but it was kind of interesting seeing what some of our next door neighbors and friends who work for the state and local governments make.

yeah that was fun. i looked up all my coworkers.
 

Slew Foot

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Sep 22, 2005
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I lived in Sacramento when the Sacramento Bee published all the public employee salaries a few years ago - not sure if they still do it but I know the information is readily available...

Anyways, I remember there being a big uproar and all that from people in the public sector, but it was kind of interesting seeing what some of our next door neighbors and friends who work for the state and local governments make.

yeah that was fun. i looked up all my coworkers.


edit: still there, just looked up my old job
 

olds

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Mar 3, 2000
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Local paper publishes my salary every year.
<--- public employee
 

olds

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Mar 3, 2000
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I'm a public employee and could care less. Publish it on the front page if you feel the need. I don't have anyone to impress and I dare anyone to claim I am overpaid for what I do.

You uneducated public sector employees...










:sneaky:
 

velillen

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I could care less if people know o this position makes between this and this. But per person specifics i dislike. You dont need to know exactly what myself or Slew Fest makes. Just knowing our positions make between XX and XX should be good enough.
 

bfdd

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Public employee info should be public. I don't care to know where they live, that's a bit excessive, but knowing who makes what is crucial considering we pay their wage.
 

Engineer

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Public employee info should be public. I don't care to know where they live, that's a bit excessive, but knowing who makes what is crucial considering we pay their wage.

Should private employee pay be made available to the shareholders (all of them) of a company?
 

Imp

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So extending the idea that public salaries should be public, should private people with public contracts (i.e. paid by public money) have their info publicized?

They are effectively paid by with your tax money.


Oh ya, I'm public. I don't give a shit. My job posting/ID gives the range.
 

bfdd

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Should private employee pay be made available to the shareholders (all of them) of a company?

I wouldn't have an issue with it if the shareholders wanted it, of course they'd have to vote and get it past the board etc. Now it shouldn't be public well because it's none of the publics fucking business.


So extending the idea that public salaries should be public, should private people with public contracts (i.e. paid by public money) have their info publicized?

They are effectively paid by with your tax money.


Oh ya, I'm public. I don't give a shit. My job posting/ID gives the range.

No they shouldn't, that'd be retarded. Though the information should be public, what money was given to who, when and why.
 

Engineer

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I wouldn't have an issue with it if the shareholders wanted it, of course they'd have to vote and get it past the board etc. Now it shouldn't be public well because it's none of the publics fucking business.

By that reasoning, the public should vote for whether public employee's pay and benefits are released then, correct?
 

rcpratt

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It's so depressing knowing how overpaid the schmucks at the NRC are.
 
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