Pundits still scared of Ron Paul

[airdata]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z9MIiKHgXI

Most of the video is about what a horrible candidate Romney is.

And then the end is the cherry on top.

Pundit : "The problem with a brokered convention scenario is you have to somebody who's won alot of delegates. And right now, that's Ron Paul."

Anchor : "Oh Dear.."

The comedy of the situation to me is just golden. We're all here talking politics.

Break it down, and Ron Paul is best candidate. He's talking real issues. He's winning debates. The other guys are too busy defending their shady business deals and other horrible life decisions they've made.


Ron Paul is the guy to hate if you don't want to see the best candidate win. Despite having people in the media constantly trying to smear him, he's still up at the top ( I know... with all of the failures running on the GOP side it's not really a huge accomplishment.. but still)

If you're against Ron Paul, you're against picking the best candidate. That's really all there is to it. If you're voting for Gingrich or Romney knowing that they're lying frauds who aren't qualified for office, you really shouldn't even be voting.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

The anchor said "Oh Dear" just like most of this forum does when a Paul supporter claims he's winning and held down by the powers to be in the GOP.

 

[halik]

Vast majority of people in this country are still scared of Ron Pauls ideas.

I thought we're supposed to have one RP spam thread for all this stuff?

 

[soundforbjt]

Pssst, RP will not win, period.

 

[Kadarin]

Pssst, RP will not win, period.

Well, the news media is certainly trying VERY hard to make sure he's not relevant.

 

[Anarchist420]

The reason they're scared of him is because the MSM has been a shill for the state. Once Dr. Paul becomes President Paul, people are going to find out the truth because he'll probably grant every FOIA request.

The MSM is basically a cartel because of the state. If it weren't for the massive state, no one would listen to them or watch them.

 

[soulcougher73]

He sadly won't win for the shear fact of who nominates the GOP Presidential candidate. If it were up to peoples votes he may stand a chance. But that is not the way it works.

 

[soundforbjt]

He probably couldn't even win his home state, let alone any other state.

 

[Kadarin]

He probably couldn't even win his home state, let alone any other state.

I think he's well aware of this. The fact that he's doing as well as he is given almost no media coverage is amazing.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

He probably couldn't even win his home state, let alone any other state.

Based on recent polling in Texas, you're spot on.

Romney - 24%
Gingrich - 23%
Perry - 18%
Santorum - 15%
Paul - 12%

 

[sm625]

Pssst, RP will not win, period.

That's like saying "America will not have middle class growth, period"

or

"America will never shrink its parasitic banking sector, period"

or

"America will always be controlled by the top 1% who have all the money and use it to sink the remaining 99% in permanent indebtedness."

or

"I worship this Romnebama system so much I dont care how much it screws me because when it wins, I win" duh

I just dont understand the zeal people have for getting raped. It is a prison mentality foisted upon the entire public.

This crap ends when you want it to. Not before. And make no mistake, it will end. The financial sector will not forever consume more than 20% of the economy. It will return to 5% as it was for most of history. The only question is how much personal suffering are you willing to endure before making the transition, and how much suffering are you willing to inflict on those you love, assuming you are capable of loving anyone.

 

[soundforbjt]

That's like saying "America will not have middle class growth, period"

or

"America will never shrink its parasitic banking sector, period"

or

"America will always be controlled by the top 1% who have all the money and use it to sink the remaining 99% in permanent indebtedness."

or

"I worship this Romnebama system so much I dont care how much it screws me because when it wins, I win" duh

I just dont understand the zeal people have for getting raped. It is a prison mentality foisted upon the entire public.

Until big money is removed from politics, this is all we'll get.

 

[woolfe9999]

Posting in this week's 11th Paulbot slobbering hero worship thread. RP doesn't bother me in the least. His religious disciples, however, are extremely annoying.

 

[halik]

 

[sm625]

Posting in this week's 11th Paulbot slobbering hero worship thread. RP doesn't bother me in the least. His religious disciples, however, are extremely annoying.

You are a sad sorry discriminating encapsulation of everything that is wrong with the american political system and culture in general. You do not understand what a "paulbot" is. I know this because there is no way to classify anyone based on their support of a political figure. duh. It's just juvenile nonsense. Anyone with any ideology could support Dr Paul.

Attacking with euphamisms and prejudicial terms such as "paulbots" is just a sign of your conditioning. You worship the power structure as you were trained to do, and you do not even understand why.

 

[halik]

You do not understand what a "paulbot" is.

^FUD

Here's what a paul bot is:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ron+paul+bot

 

[woolfe9999]

You are a sad sorry discriminating encapsulation of everything that is wrong with the american political system and culture in general. You do not understand what a "paulbot" is. I know this because there is no way to classify anyone based on their support of a political figure. duh. It's just juvenile nonsense. Anyone with any ideology could support Dr Paul.

Attacking with euphamisms and prejudicial terms such as "paulbots" is just a sign of your conditioning. You worship the power structure as you were trained to do, and you do not even understand why.

I use the term because I observe supporters of RP on this forum and elsewhere on the internet. I am not describing everyone who theoretically might vote for RP or support some or all of his policy positions, just the majority of actual supporters that I observe. And those people very much remind me of cult members who slobber over a leader figure. Sorry, but that's how I perceive it. If you don't want people to perceive it that way, then be an example of an RP supporter who doesn't act like he walks on water, doesn't dismiss bad poll results as conspiratorial while praising good poll results from the same pollster, doesn't spout tinfoil hat garbage at every opportunity, etc. RP supporters are exercising their free speech rights on this forum and elsewhere, and I'm exercising mine in explaining how I judge the quality of that speech.

- wolf

 

[airdata]

Pssst, RP will not win, period.

Not saying he will win.


What I am saying is that the other candidates are garbage. They're corrupt business men.. They get schooled in debates. They don't know simply things they should know to hold a high office in our government. Ron Paul is therefore the most qualified candidate out there period.

Nobody is backing Romney or Gingrich because they believe in them or believe for what they stand for ( since they both stand for nothing ).

If voting in an election comes down to simply voting against the guy in office you don't like, that isn't much of a system, is it? At the very least can we all come together and agree that our political system is a joke?

 

[woolfe9999]

Not saying he will win.


What I am saying is that the other candidates are garbage. They're corrupt business men.. They get schooled in debates. They don't know simply things they should know to hold a high office in our government.

Nobody is backing Romney or Gingrich because they believe in them or believe for what they stand for ( since they both stand for nothing )

If voting in an election comes down to simply voting against the guy in office you don't like, that isn't much of a system, is it?

You only think RP is winning these debates because you agree with his positions. In terms of actual debate performance, RP has held his own, but Romney or Gingrich have "won" the bulk of them in the sense of being the most persuasive to the largest number of GOP voters. I don't agree with most of the policy positions of any of the 3 of them myself, but that is neither here nor there in evaluating their performance.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Oh Dear!!!!!

 

[airdata]

You only think RP is winning these debates because you agree with his positions.

Most polls have shown Ron Paul winning. Other candidates have to refer to him for facts as they're stumbling on their words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KfDJfvYH6CY

Watch this for instance. They go over poll data relating to the 1/16 debate in which Ron Paul is far above all other candidates in nearly every category. Most of the other candidates only rated high in dodging questions and being deceptive.... Which I'd assume we all agree is not what somebody who is going to lead the country should be doing.



Romney is a fraud. Gingrich is a fraud... and you guys just don't like Ron Paul.

 

[airdata]

Oh Dear!!!!!

That was funny wasn't it? I can only imagine how many gerbils up in her head it took to crank that out.

 

[soundforbjt]

No real polls have RP winning, just internet polls and twitter posts which favor RP's followers and are not scientific at all.

 

[MovingTarget]

Well, the news media is certainly trying VERY hard to make sure he's not relevant.

Their treatment of RP is pretty obvious in that regard. It truly is ridiculous. I fear what we are seeing there is a case of "he who controls the newsmedia, controls the elections...".

 

[soundforbjt]

And media is owned and controlled by....yep, Corporations and the uber 1%.