The research has been 16 years of spinning off fram filters and spinning a new one on with each oil change. Many different cars and even motorcycles. I just put one on last weekend on my mustang. Bought a couple spares as well.
Please explain this. What do you mean you had good luck with anything but fram? Did you send in your oil to be tested? How do I, theaverage joe knows how well his oil filter performed? Other than taking one off and putting another filter on, what can I use to judge its effectiveness?
There are tons of online guides and reports on filter comparisons. Every single time fram is at the very very bottom of the list.... Defective anti drainback valves, filters with gaps that allow oil to pass through, filter media that is thin and tiny compared to even no name filters.....
Bosch, napa gold, purolator, wix are about the only consistently trustworthy filter companies.
Pretty sure OP is on about the shipping company. I've never had bad luck with them.
I only use german filters. MANN, Mahle, etc. American companies make (or import) inferior products for similar price.
Most Mann oil filters in the US are just US Purolator's with a Mann sticker.
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Interesting, didn't know that. Is mann or mahle a better filter?
"It works" isn't validation that they're good.
Basically, there are better products out there. Purolator is one of them. From dissected filters, to oil analysis, to whatever, Fram are consistently found to be among the worst of the field.
Purolator, from my perspective, appear to be the best in terms of both price and performance. They always grade out well, and are a few cents more than a cheapy Fram.
Who cares? I use them all. As long as they meet the motor company's specs, they are sufficient.
Who cares? I use them all. As long as they meet the motor company's specs, they are sufficient.
..or Napa Gold.
It's not just a personal opinion. Fram makes terrible filters. Go read up on the studies before giving more false advice on our forums.
In general you could stand to do some research before giving your opinion on any topic.
http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articles/oilfilterstudy.html
We have another lab visit coming up on May 7th, would you care to join us? My treat.:biggrin:
Aware,
I am the tech manager at FRAM. You should actually spend some time doing reseach. The study you are quoting was revised considerably after the owner of that forum visited our engineering lab. While his study was pretty awesome for something done at home, we showed it has no corelation to real world filter test results. Cutting open filters and commenting is not an oil filter test. Engine longevity and oil test results are. The ISO-4548-12 test is the only OE accepted oil filter test and all reputable oil filter companies post ISO 4548-12 test results. We have another lab visit coming up on May 7th, would you care to join us? My treat.:biggrin:
I drive a used M3, I use only $300 Oil Filters and $50 qt. Oil.
$600 oil changes, FTW.
Aware,
I am the tech manager at FRAM. You should actually spend some time doing reseach. The study you are quoting was revised considerably after the owner of that forum visited our engineering lab. While his study was pretty awesome for something done at home, we showed it has no corelation to real world filter test results. Cutting open filters and commenting is not an oil filter test. Engine longevity and oil test results are. The ISO-4548-12 test is the only OE accepted oil filter test and all reputable oil filter companies post ISO 4548-12 test results. We have another lab visit coming up on May 7th, would you care to join us? My treat.:biggrin:
I drive a used M3, I use only $300 Oil Filters and $50 qt. Oil.
$600 oil changes, FTW.
Really, though, the OP was bashing Purolator the shippng Co.
They probably delivered his new Video Card 30 minutes late, again.
Absolutely.
I have spent considerable time reading about oil filter dissections as recent as 6 months ago. If you think you can make me a believer then I'm all for it, but as of now fram has not had enough time to make a name for themselves as making decent oil filters.
That being said, last year you were still using cardboard end caps and extremely cheap looking/feeling anti drainback valves. I don't care if it barely passes your ISO test, or internal tests, I still don't want a filter with cardboard end caps and shoddy anti drainback valves.