Q6600 to Haswell or Ivybridge?

[tongpo2000]

Hello,

Sorry to start another haswell thread but I was just hoping for some quick advice/opinions. I waited for haswell to upgrade my aging desktop but now after seeing all the reviews and opinions I don't know if it is better to buy Haswell or just go for Ivybridge.

I play games and overclocked my current processor but not until I already had it for a few years. I wont upgrade after purchasing this PC for at least 2-3 years.

What do you guys think is best if upgrading from a much older PC?

Thanks.

 

[Puppies04]

Haswell is better than IB (it just isn't "that much" better), anyone who says different is smoking some weird stuff.

 

[Ventanni]

Go Haswell.

 

[NTMBK]

Haswell.

 

[_Rick_]

Depends on what model you want, and what price you want, and when you want to buy.

But the Haswell platform and updated motherboards alone are nice upgrades over Ivy Bridge.

If you're scrounging for pennies though, an Ivy Bridge i3 is probably still the best bang for the buck.

 

[sm625]

The discussion is complicated by the fact that sockett 1155 is now obsolete which means prices will drop. I wouldnt be shocked to see complete i5-2500k motherboard/cpu/RAM combos for $180. There is no way to justify paying nearly twice as much for a haswell i5 combo.

 

[Kougar]

If you're already buying a chip, then there's no reason to not go for Haswell (short of saving a bundle on older model stuff like SM625 says).

Nothing says you must buy a "K" part anyway, which would negate about all of the comments against Haswell.

 

[Mad Lion]

I'm in the exact same boat. Q6600 and planning an upgrade, but I don't think I'll be doing my upgrade until Christmas or February 2014 at the latest. I was hoping that steamroller FX would be out by then, but that's not likely to happen anymore, is it?

 

[nanaki333]

might as well buy the latest socket. 1155 is dated, so if intel doesn't make yet another socket for the next cpu, you'll be better suited with the 1150 haswell

 

[Torn Mind]

Depends on whether having more SATA 6.0 Gbit/s ports and more USB 3.0 ports is important to you, as H87 and Z87 chipsets support more of those ports natively.

With Ivy Bridge, you'd save some cash now, but Haswell does outperform it slightly, with no exceptions.

Also, Haswell idles better than Ivy, if that matters to you.

http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Z87-H87-H81-Q87-Q85-B85-What-is-the-difference-473/

 

[srp49ers]

Debating a similar move. Wonder if it really is worth selling my 2500k and MB, for a 4670k + maximus hero.
~$140 upgrade after selling old parts.

 

[blckgrffn]

Considering doing a 3820 and LGA2011 myself. Good deal on it at Microcenter, solid boards, some future potential upside.

I am doing the build now, not in September

I waited for Haswell and felt, well, underwhelmed. A used hexacore drop-in upgrade a couple years from now sounds tasty.

 

[sangyup81]

Debating a similar move. Wonder if it really is worth selling my 2500k and MB, for a 4670k + maximus hero.
~$140 upgrade after selling old parts.

Only if it'll affect your power bill that much to upgrade since the main gains will be in power efficiency and iGPU (if you use that at all)

 

[sangyup81]

Considering doing a 3820 and LGA2011 myself. Good deal on it at Microcenter, solid boards, some future potential upside.

I am doing the build now, not in September

I waited for Haswell and felt, well, underwhelmed. A used hexacore drop-in upgrade a couple years from now sounds tasty.

LGA2011 has more PCI-E lanes plus Ivy Bridge-E will be on LGA2011!

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Ask yourself this. You are going to buy a processor that gets just as hot as the other. Now which would you rather buy, the older generation or the latest? Make no mistake, they both run hot.

 

[tweakboy]

Haswell is better than IB (it just isn't "that much" better), anyone who says different is smoking some weird stuff.

Dude I went from Q6600 3.7Ghz to 3820. My Sonar X2 , piano thru kontakt it would reach 100 percent usage on my Q6.

After I slapped on the 3820 then did same piano test, and it doesnt even move,, its at 1 percent 0 percent....compared to my old Q6 which would choke and not handle the audio. I have 12 threads and it shows it in my Sonar ... Im a musician and that is why Im getting 4930k Ivy E 6core/12threads

and

NOOOOOOOOOOOO Haswell is not faster then Ivy Bridge E ,, in 2013 the fastest processor will be the 4960x

2 more cores 4 threads and a good OC will crush a Haswell..........

 

[JPS35]

I am also in the same boat with my Q6600 (man, it has been a great chip). But, given my budget, I am considering a Q9550. No, in all seriousness I was also debating the same between IB and Haswell. Yes, it is the newest, but does the higher price justify an up to 20% gain over IB. In either case, both are a huge leap forward from where I am at now.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

I'd recommend Haswell just for the improvements with the chipset and motherboard features, but the CPU will be a tad better as well.

 

[jellowiggler]

I was faced with the same question.

I Had a Q6600 oc'd to 3.2 for 5 years. I waited for haswell. Then I decided to buy a second hand mb, ram, i5 2500k sandy bridge. $275. All I had to pick up was a case and cooler. Corsair R200 and a CM hyper 212 EVO. $100. Everything else I had. So a high power gaming pc for $375. Not bad.

I got the parts for 1/2 the price of new and have a very similar performance. I might suggest you do the same.

I'm currently just figuring out where my OC will end up. 4.3ghz was effortless. 4.5-4.7 should be attainable.

I don't think the q6600 to q9550 or q9560 is worth it. Just OC your q6600 you'll get the same performance. All it takes is a $35 cooler like the AC freezer 7 pro.

The benefits you get from a p67,z68, z77, z87 mb are great. My q6600 oc'd was not bad speed. But the newer boards boot faster, and have better drive controllers. My ssd speeds doubled and my boot time is super fast I think I get to the desktop in about 15 seconds.

 

[blackened23]

There is absolutely no reason to get Ivy Bridge. While there is a lot of hyperbole and nonsense out there (and here) regarding Haswell's "heat", let's not kid ourselves because IVB gets very hot while overclocked as well.

Z87 is just better than Z77 in every way, and even if you get incredibly unlucky with a Haswell overclock you will still have a faster system than IVB. The IPC increase will account for any difference - in my experience, the 3770k remains faster than a 2600k, even when the 2600k has a 500mhz higher overclock. (yes, I went from a 2600k to a 3770k and did a plethora of synthetic benchmarks after upgrading.) I expect the same of Haswell, since the Haswell has the same IPC percentage increase over IVB. Even with the worst possible overclocking luck in the world, there is no argument to be made for buying IVB over Haswell. They both get hot with voltage and overclocking, period.

 

[blackened23]

I should also add, newegg has an incredible sale on Haswell + motherboard combos right now. Now is the time to buy if you're on the market.

 

[pcunite]

I upgraded to Ivy from a Q6600. The biggest gain was from the Z77 chipset which gave me Sata III. I really felt the improvement here. Generally speaking the newest (Haswell) is the best buy unless there is some massive discounting ... which is never the case.

 

[tweakboy]

This is Ivy Bridge were comparing to. Ivy Bridge E 6c12t September 29th is faster then Haswell quads.

In 2014 there will be Haswell E , with a potential of up to 10c for server and 6core for desktops. gl Ill take 6 fast cores and OC rather a howard cpu which I dont like the name already,,, so... ya Sept 29th is the D day,,, 4930k here I come!!!!!!!!

 

[StinkyPinky]

Q6600 to Haswell is a pretty big upgrade. The IPC is quite a bit better and you'll probably get an extra 1 Ghz on the clock speed. Seems worth it to me. Not to mention all the new features on the motherboard.

 

[blackened23]

Q6600 to Haswell is a pretty big upgrade. The IPC is quite a bit better and you'll probably get an extra 1 Ghz on the clock speed. Seems worth it to me. Not to mention all the new features on the motherboard.

Yeah, it is a big upgrade. Very, very big upgrade. Anyone saying it isn't is smoking the good stuff (or using very weak applications that don't need the added performance). I remember upgrading several lynnfield 860 and 870 boxes to sandy bridge CPUs, and that itself was a pretty big upgrade. Heck, I *felt* the speed difference just by the snappiness of the system - not to mention all synthetic benchmarks were faster by huge margins. Q6600 to a Haswell will definitely be an immediately noticeable upgrade for anyone using worthwhile applications....there is no comparison really. Not to mention, 3.8-4ghz seemed to be a ceiling on a lot of the Lynnfield CPUs and 920s that I tried to overclock. Getting a higher overclock even with Haswell or IVB will be extremely easy in comparison to the Q6600, which would skew the favor towards Haswell even more.