Q6600 vs E6850 (Short term [12 months])

[imported_Buckfutter]

Hey.

I was planing to purchase a new rig after 22. July when the prices drop and i was wondering.

As the topic says, i will be upgrading again after about 12 months as i usually do, and i was wondering what would be the best choice of Q6600 and the E6850?

You see, i have this 2 year cycle between each computer i buy. 1st year i buy a all new computer with every piece of hardware. After about 12 months i usually upgrade the CPU/GPU and memory if necessary, keeping the mobo.

So here is my second question. Should i go for a 680i mobo or the new P35?

Edit: I want to try some OC, but i'm very "green" at that area of expertise.

/Buckfutter

 

[Smartazz]

Why would you upgrade your CPU so quickly? If you really want to upgrade after 12 months, then I'd recommend the E6850 because it'll run cooler and probably overclock easier.

 

[bryanW1995]

I'm looking at doing something similar. I am leaning towards

edit: I am leaning towards...finishing what I was trying to say last night, which is this: I am leaning towards a G0 q6600. I can get one in the US very easily if I'm patient, and I can be patient for something this good. All reports point to the G0 being a much better overclocker than the B3's, and I might even be able to slide to an x38 mobo if the G0 takes too long to come out, so how can I lose?

 

[Cheex]

Welcome to AT!!

I would advise you to get the E6850 with a P35 then get the Quad next year maybe with an X38.

 

[aigomorla]

wow how can you guys recomend between a quadcore and a dualcore without knowing what applications he would be using for it?

Are you using any multicore optimized programs or not should be the main question. And even then, are you using anything that can/will utilize all 4 cores on the quadcore?


Before anyone can point you out to which processor you should pick, you need to answer those questions. I have stated many times, a dual core may run faster then a quadcore, if properly overclocked, however if your running quadcore threaded applications, theres no way a dualcore could keep up with a quadcore.

The dualcore will be easier to overclock because of the less heat output, however, if your running things like photoshop, or WCG, or even games which use all 4 cores, IE. Supreme commander, then the quad would be a far better investment.


As for the board, Dont get the 680i unless your looking for SLI in the future. It will lose to the P35 in all areas of stability to overclocking.

 

[PCTC2]

yeah. listen to Aigo. his and my 680i have s**t the bed, so to speak. a cap probably blew and there are huge vdroops and stability problems. (yeah, mine is up to ~0.1v vdroop in BIOS). I'm getting my Q6600 on Monday but if I were you, I'd wait for the G0 stepping of the quad if you get it. The only reason i have a 680i is because I'm running 2x 7950GT in SLI.

 

[rich168]

get the quadcore and the p35

since next year intel will release the peryn 45nm chip which is compatible with the p35

 

[imported_Buckfutter]

Thanks for all the replies.

Yeah, the rig will be used for heavy gaming. I've read that Crysis and Alan Wake will take advantage of the quad core fully.
About the G0 stepping CPU's, there is no way i can know if i'm ordering a G0 stepping CPU or not. Its not like the web shops are advertising about them. If i knew that, i would order a Q6600 without any hesitation.

This is how my new rig will look like. (I'm open for suggestions)

Case: Antec P182
PSU: NorthQ NQ-4775-1000 Giant Reactor 1000W
Motherboard: EVGA nForce 680i SLI, nForce-680i SLI, Socket-775, 2xGbLAN, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex16 (Unsure about this one)
Memory: Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC6400 2048MB CL4 ,Kit w/two BallistiX 1024MB's, E.P.P (Unsure about these too)
Soundcard: Creative XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro Series
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (Unsure here too)
CPU-cooler: Thermalright ULTRA120 Extreme + Scythe S-FLEX FDB 120mm 1600rpm 28dB Quiet FAN (SFF21F) (If it fits)
System/Games: Western Digital Raptor X (I have a unused laying around)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500 GB SATA
Graphics: XFX GeForce 8800 Ultra XXX (Either this or 2x 8800gtx unless i go for a P35 board)
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 245B (I'm not sure about this one after i read about it on this forum)

As you can see, i'm unsure about a lot of components. I am leaning towards the P35 boards though, as they are more future oriented.
I'm not sure if PC2-6400 is fast enough for overclocking. There is also the question about 2x2gb vs 4x1gb. Which one is the best overclocker?

/Buckfutter

 

[Smartazz]

Originally posted by: Buckfutter
Thanks for all the replies.

Yeah, the rig will be used for heavy gaming. I've read that Crysis and Alan Wake will take advantage of the quad core fully.
About the G0 stepping CPU's, there is no way i can know if i'm ordering a G0 stepping CPU or not. Its not like the web shops are advertising about them. If i knew that, i would order a Q6600 without any hesitation.

This is how my new rig will look like. (I'm open for suggestions)

Case: Antec P182
PSU: NorthQ NQ-4775-1000 Giant Reactor 1000W
Motherboard: EVGA nForce 680i SLI, nForce-680i SLI, Socket-775, 2xGbLAN, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex16 (Unsure about this one)
Memory: Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC6400 2048MB CL4 ,Kit w/two BallistiX 1024MB's, E.P.P (Unsure about these too)
Soundcard: Creative XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro Series
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (Unsure here too)
CPU-cooler: Thermalright ULTRA120 Extreme + Scythe S-FLEX FDB 120mm 1600rpm 28dB Quiet FAN (SFF21F) (If it fits)
System/Games: Western Digital Raptor X (I have a unused laying around)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500 GB SATA
Graphics: XFX GeForce 8800 Ultra XXX (Either this or 2x 8800gtx unless i go for a P35 board)
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 245B (I'm not sure about this one after i read about it on this forum)

As you can see, i'm unsure about a lot of components. I am leaning towards the P35 boards though, as they are more future oriented.
I'm not sure if PC2-6400 is fast enough for overclocking. There is also the question about 2x2gb vs 4x1gb. Which one is the best overclocker?

/Buckfutter

If I'm not mistaken, the Geforce 8800 Ultra wasn't worth it before, I'm not sure if it is now compared to the 8800GTX. Dual 8800GTX's would cost more, but will yield better performance in almost any scenario. I think that the 8800Ultra is the 8800GTX, just clocked a little higher.

 

[MarcVenice]

Theres a thread on the videocard forum. The ultra has dropped in price and gets pretty darn close to gtx's. Really worth looking into.

As for the qaudcore versus dualcore. Hmz hmz, it's a tough question. Crysis will be using 1 core for physics calculations. But it beats me if a qaudcore will outperform a higher clocked dualcore, hell, we all know that at resolutions of 1600*1200 and up it's not the cpu holding you back, but the graphics card instead.

I would really go P35 btw, especially if you upgrade every year. If you think about it like that, the e6750 or so might be better, overclock it really high, and when the penryn cpu's drop a bit in price, you buy one of those qaudcores.

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: Buckfutter
Thanks for all the replies.

Yeah, the rig will be used for heavy gaming. I've read that Crysis and Alan Wake will take advantage of the quad core fully.
About the G0 stepping CPU's, there is no way i can know if i'm ordering a G0 stepping CPU or not. Its not like the web shops are advertising about them. If i knew that, i would order a Q6600 without any hesitation.

This is how my new rig will look like. (I'm open for suggestions)

Case: Antec P182
PSU: NorthQ NQ-4775-1000 Giant Reactor 1000W
Motherboard: EVGA nForce 680i SLI, nForce-680i SLI, Socket-775, 2xGbLAN, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex16 (Unsure about this one)
Memory: Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC6400 2048MB CL4 ,Kit w/two BallistiX 1024MB's, E.P.P (Unsure about these too)
Soundcard: Creative XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro Series
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (Unsure here too)
CPU-cooler: Thermalright ULTRA120 Extreme + Scythe S-FLEX FDB 120mm 1600rpm 28dB Quiet FAN (SFF21F) (If it fits)
System/Games: Western Digital Raptor X (I have a unused laying around)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500 GB SATA
Graphics: XFX GeForce 8800 Ultra XXX (Either this or 2x 8800gtx unless i go for a P35 board)
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 245B (I'm not sure about this one after i read about it on this forum)

As you can see, i'm unsure about a lot of components. I am leaning towards the P35 boards though, as they are more future oriented.
I'm not sure if PC2-6400 is fast enough for overclocking. There is also the question about 2x2gb vs 4x1gb. Which one is the best overclocker?

/Buckfutter

ok here are my thoughts.

case: fine

psu: what in gods name are you buying? that psu is shitty. if you don't have the budget for a proper 1000W psu, just get a quality 750W or 850W psu (PC P&C, Silverstone -not the strider series-, Enermax, Tagan, do your homework).

mb: fine if you need SLI, otherwise get P35. IMHO, if you are buying now you might as well wait until August to see what X38 brings to the plate, because there are rumors that X38 will support SLI, and that would be a wiser choice over 680i.

Memory: fine, i don't think you will be going over 400 FSB with an E6850, never mind with a Q6600 (unless you get G0 steppings in which case if you over clock beyond 3.6 ghz your ram should still be able to handle clock speeds up to 450 mhz)

Soundcard: get an Auzentech Prelude please, its coming out in 2 weeks, and its miles better than any Creative X-Fi card. And it should cost the same as the card you picked. plus you dont have to deal with creative drivers, which is just a bonus.

CPU: I would get a Q6600. that feeling gets even stronger if you can get your hands on a G0 (maybe buy one from a local store where they are willing to show you the boxes? read the IHS and look for SLACR. SL9UM represents B3 steps)

cpu cooler: if it fits, you cant get any better.

sysHD: lovely

stoHD: wonderful

graphics: 1 GTX will do just as good. if you SLI then 2 GTXs

monitor: dell 2407. and don't look back.



that is all.

 

[MarcVenice]

Heh I overlooked the PSU. With that system, even with SLI-ed gtx's, all you need would be a Corsair 620W PSU.

 

[imported_Buckfutter]

ok here are my thoughts.

case: fine

psu: what in gods name are you buying? that psu is shitty. if you don't have the budget for a proper 1000W psu, just get a quality 750W or 850W psu (PC P&C, Silverstone -not the strider series-, Enermax, Tagan, do your homework).

mb: fine if you need SLI, otherwise get P35. IMHO, if you are buying now you might as well wait until August to see what X38 brings to the plate, because there are rumors that X38 will support SLI, and that would be a wiser choice over 680i.

Memory: fine, i don't think you will be going over 400 FSB with an E6850, never mind with a Q6600 (unless you get G0 steppings in which case if you over clock beyond 3.6 ghz your ram should still be able to handle clock speeds up to 450 mhz)

Soundcard: get an Auzentech Prelude please, its coming out in 2 weeks, and its miles better than any Creative X-Fi card. And it should cost the same as the card you picked. plus you dont have to deal with creative drivers, which is just a bonus.

CPU: I would get a Q6600. that feeling gets even stronger if you can get your hands on a G0 (maybe buy one from a local store where they are willing to show you the boxes? read the IHS and look for SLACR. SL9UM represents B3 steps)

cpu cooler: if it fits, you cant get any better.

sysHD: lovely

stoHD: wonderful

graphics: 1 GTX will do just as good. if you SLI then 2 GTXs

monitor: dell 2407. and don't look back.



that is all.

Ok. I've done some of your recommendations.
My budget is high, so no problems for me switching a couple of hardware parts.

I switched the Samsung SyncMaster 245B for the Dell Ultrasharp 2407WFP one. Did some reading on it, and it sounds very promising. Actually i've already ordered it.

I changed the NorthQ Giant Reactor 1000W with a Enermax Galaxy 850W.

If i'm going for a P35 board, it would be the Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R i think. It supports both DDR2 and DDR3.

I'm not sure if they sell Auzentech products in my country (Norway), so i have to check that out.

There is no stores where i live who sells computer parts. I have to order every little thing i need. So as i said earlier, i have to get lucky to receive a G0 CPU.

The ultra cards is not so much more expensive than the GTX cards anymore, and the XXX version of the ultra card is insanely overclocked. (675/2300)

/Buckfutter

 

[JAG87]

I dont know where you buy your stuff, but here in canada the 8800 Ultra XXX is 950 dollars while the GTX is around 650.

And even at newegg, which is a reference point for US buyers, its 749 for the Ultra vs 589 for the GTX. I just dont think the performance gain justifies the extra 160 dollars (never mind the 300 canadian dollars thats just insane). Were talking like a few FPS here, and at 1920x1200 with AA and AF filters on the difference is even slimmer. My wholehearted recommendation is get the GTX, and keep what you saved for the next generation (G90). Plus the GTX will have a resale value closer to what you paid than the Ultra.

Other than that nice choices, the monitor is solid, the power supply 5 leagues above what you had picked before. The motherboard is awesome too, gives you DDR2 or DDR3 choice. I would be surprised if they did not have Auzentech cards, you can order them at almost any e-tailer.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: JAG87

Originally posted by: Buckfutter
Thanks for all the replies.

Yeah, the rig will be used for heavy gaming. I've read that Crysis and Alan Wake will take advantage of the quad core fully.
About the G0 stepping CPU's, there is no way i can know if i'm ordering a G0 stepping CPU or not. Its not like the web shops are advertising about them. If i knew that, i would order a Q6600 without any hesitation.

This is how my new rig will look like. (I'm open for suggestions)

Case: Antec P182
PSU: NorthQ NQ-4775-1000 Giant Reactor 1000W
Motherboard: EVGA nForce 680i SLI, nForce-680i SLI, Socket-775, 2xGbLAN, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex16 (Unsure about this one)
Memory: Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC6400 2048MB CL4 ,Kit w/two BallistiX 1024MB's, E.P.P (Unsure about these too)
Soundcard: Creative XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro Series
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (Unsure here too)
CPU-cooler: Thermalright ULTRA120 Extreme + Scythe S-FLEX FDB 120mm 1600rpm 28dB Quiet FAN (SFF21F) (If it fits)
System/Games: Western Digital Raptor X (I have a unused laying around)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500 GB SATA
Graphics: XFX GeForce 8800 Ultra XXX (Either this or 2x 8800gtx unless i go for a P35 board)
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 245B (I'm not sure about this one after i read about it on this forum)

As you can see, i'm unsure about a lot of components. I am leaning towards the P35 boards though, as they are more future oriented.
I'm not sure if PC2-6400 is fast enough for overclocking. There is also the question about 2x2gb vs 4x1gb. Which one is the best overclocker?

/Buckfutter

ok here are my thoughts.

case: fine

psu: what in gods name are you buying? that psu is shitty. if you don't have the budget for a proper 1000W psu, just get a quality 750W or 850W psu (PC P&C, Silverstone -not the strider series-, Enermax, Tagan, do your homework).

mb: fine if you need SLI, otherwise get P35. IMHO, if you are buying now you might as well wait until August to see what X38 brings to the plate, because there are rumors that X38 will support SLI, and that would be a wiser choice over 680i.

Memory: fine, i don't think you will be going over 400 FSB with an E6850, never mind with a Q6600 (unless you get G0 steppings in which case if you over clock beyond 3.6 ghz your ram should still be able to handle clock speeds up to 450 mhz)

Soundcard: get an Auzentech Prelude please, its coming out in 2 weeks, and its miles better than any Creative X-Fi card. And it should cost the same as the card you picked. plus you dont have to deal with creative drivers, which is just a bonus.

CPU: I would get a Q6600. that feeling gets even stronger if you can get your hands on a G0 (maybe buy one from a local store where they are willing to show you the boxes? read the IHS and look for SLACR. SL9UM represents B3 steps)

cpu cooler: if it fits, you cant get any better.

sysHD: lovely

stoHD: wonderful

graphics: 1 GTX will do just as good. if you SLI then 2 GTXs

monitor: dell 2407. and don't look back.



that is all.

:thumbsup:

Id ditch the sound card. There used to be tons of issue with people and sound cards if i remember correctly. The onboard sound wouldnt cost you more then 1-2FPS in games, and as jab pointed out to me in another thread, you wont see the difference running 65FPS -> 60FPS.


JAb i heard the dell's have tons of issues with dead pixels expecially on the 2407. If you google it, people are returning the living hell out of it. I was actually in this market. I chose the gateway 2485 after reading all the good reviews on the monitor. It was also the highest raited 24 inch LCD when i was researching on it 2 weeks ago.


Thats my 2 cents. If you can get a NEW revision of the 2407, id say go for it, however check out the gateway 2485 before you hit that send button on the order.


If you want a nice heafty PSU, antec makes a new quadro 850, which jonnyguru gave 9.5 in perfromance.

The only 10 i saw on his reviews would be the thermaltake 1000W series. I was actually quite suprised about this, because the last great PSU TT made was the 500W TWV. This was about 2 yrs ago.

 

[imported_Buckfutter]

You're right. The cheapest Geforce 8800 GTX card i can get my hands on costs 670$. The XFX Geforce 8800 Ultra XXX costs 985$. At least in Norway. The hardware is somewhat cheaper in the States.
Its quite a difference in price.

I've already "hit the send button" as you so nicely put it. The Gateway FPD2485W is not available to me in Norway atm. Actualy no Gateway monitors is unless i order from oversea.

Same with the PSU you suggested. There is alot of Antec PSU's, but no higher than 500W.

/Buckfutter

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: JAG87

Originally posted by: Buckfutter
Thanks for all the replies.

Yeah, the rig will be used for heavy gaming. I've read that Crysis and Alan Wake will take advantage of the quad core fully.
About the G0 stepping CPU's, there is no way i can know if i'm ordering a G0 stepping CPU or not. Its not like the web shops are advertising about them. If i knew that, i would order a Q6600 without any hesitation.

This is how my new rig will look like. (I'm open for suggestions)

Case: Antec P182
PSU: NorthQ NQ-4775-1000 Giant Reactor 1000W
Motherboard: EVGA nForce 680i SLI, nForce-680i SLI, Socket-775, 2xGbLAN, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex16 (Unsure about this one)
Memory: Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC6400 2048MB CL4 ,Kit w/two BallistiX 1024MB's, E.P.P (Unsure about these too)
Soundcard: Creative XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro Series
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (Unsure here too)
CPU-cooler: Thermalright ULTRA120 Extreme + Scythe S-FLEX FDB 120mm 1600rpm 28dB Quiet FAN (SFF21F) (If it fits)
System/Games: Western Digital Raptor X (I have a unused laying around)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500 GB SATA
Graphics: XFX GeForce 8800 Ultra XXX (Either this or 2x 8800gtx unless i go for a P35 board)
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 245B (I'm not sure about this one after i read about it on this forum)

As you can see, i'm unsure about a lot of components. I am leaning towards the P35 boards though, as they are more future oriented.
I'm not sure if PC2-6400 is fast enough for overclocking. There is also the question about 2x2gb vs 4x1gb. Which one is the best overclocker?

/Buckfutter

ok here are my thoughts.

case: fine

psu: what in gods name are you buying? that psu is shitty. if you don't have the budget for a proper 1000W psu, just get a quality 750W or 850W psu (PC P&C, Silverstone -not the strider series-, Enermax, Tagan, do your homework).

mb: fine if you need SLI, otherwise get P35. IMHO, if you are buying now you might as well wait until August to see what X38 brings to the plate, because there are rumors that X38 will support SLI, and that would be a wiser choice over 680i.

Memory: fine, i don't think you will be going over 400 FSB with an E6850, never mind with a Q6600 (unless you get G0 steppings in which case if you over clock beyond 3.6 ghz your ram should still be able to handle clock speeds up to 450 mhz)

Soundcard: get an Auzentech Prelude please, its coming out in 2 weeks, and its miles better than any Creative X-Fi card. And it should cost the same as the card you picked. plus you dont have to deal with creative drivers, which is just a bonus.

CPU: I would get a Q6600. that feeling gets even stronger if you can get your hands on a G0 (maybe buy one from a local store where they are willing to show you the boxes? read the IHS and look for SLACR. SL9UM represents B3 steps)

cpu cooler: if it fits, you cant get any better.

sysHD: lovely

stoHD: wonderful

graphics: 1 GTX will do just as good. if you SLI then 2 GTXs

monitor: dell 2407. and don't look back.



that is all.

:thumbsup:

Id ditch the sound card. There used to be tons of issue with people and sound cards if i remember correctly. The onboard sound wouldnt cost you more then 1-2FPS in games, and as jab pointed out to me in another thread, you wont see the difference running 65FPS -> 60FPS.


JAb i heard the dell's have tons of issues with dead pixels expecially on the 2407. If you google it, people are returning the living hell out of it. I was actually in this market. I chose the gateway 2485 after reading all the good reviews on the monitor. It was also the highest raited 24 inch LCD when i was researching on it 2 weeks ago.


Thats my 2 cents. If you can get a NEW revision of the 2407, id say go for it, however check out the gateway 2485 before you hit that send button on the order.


If you want a nice heafty PSU, antec makes a new quadro 850, which jonnyguru gave 9.5 in perfromance.

The only 10 i saw on his reviews would be the thermaltake 1000W series. I was actually quite suprised about this, because the last great PSU TT made was the 500W TWV. This was about 2 yrs ago.

oh no! its not about fps, its about sound quality. any sound card will sound better than onboard. there is massive interference with onboard sound. dont make this mistake, you will be using onboard thinking it sounds great, and you will not know how much you are really missing! going from onboard to creative x-fi is like a 75% improvement, and getting the Auzentech or performing the LM4562NA op-amp mod yourself on a creative card is another 25% improvement. its like night and day.

about the 2407, I cant disagree with the dead pixel reports, but so far I personally know 2 people that own one. The first guy got a mint one. The second one got one with a thing hairline scratch across the panel. So yea, Dell's QA could be a bit better, but you dont pay for RMA they do.

 

[imported_Buckfutter]

This is how my rig looks like now on paper:

Case: Antec P182 (I might get the Lian Li Miditower, Aluminium, Black PCA10B) [Its a Norwegian page, but the pictures speaks for themself. There is some reviews in english at the bottom of the page]
PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850W
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R
Memory: Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC6400 2048MB CL4 ,Kit w/two BallistiX 1024MB's, E.P.P
Soundcard: Creative XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro Series or the Auzentech Prelude one if i can get my hands on it.
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (Still unsure about this one.)
CPU-cooler: Thermalright ULTRA120 Extreme + Scythe S-FLEX FDB 120mm 1600rpm 28dB Quiet FAN (SFF21F) (If it fits)
System/Games: Western Digital Raptor X (I have a unused laying around)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500 GB SATA
Graphics: XFX GeForce 8800 Ultra XXX or a Geforce 8800 GTX card.
Monitor: Dell Ultrasharp 2407WFP


It's still the question about 2x2GB or 4x1GB of memory. Which is the best choice for overclocking? I might only buy 2GB of ram to start with.

/Buckfutter

 

[JAG87]

2x2 is better. 4x1 works like crap on 680i. its nearly impossible to overclock the memory at all with 4 dimms installed, and sometimes its unstable even at stock speeds.

so either get 2x1 GB, or 2x2 GB. There aren't many choices for 2x2 GB, and they are all quite expensive too. I would just stick to 2x1 for now.

 

[NicColt]

>CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (Still unsure about this one.)

I'm going with the E6850 and here's why (according to techpowerup)

1 - E6850 is 3.0 Ghz where Q6600 is 2.4 if your playing games the E6850 will beat the Q in alot of tests. I lost the link where I was able to choose the E6850 and Q6600 to bench but I try to find it.

2 - Even if you get a G0 Q66 not many games are supporting 4 cores right now anyway.
so again, pure Ghz will win in games.

3 - You said short term, so get an E6850 for $266 and in 12 months you'll most likely be able to get an Q6850 for the same price.

4 - Unless your guaranteed a Q66 with G0 you'll get a Q66 with 130W the E6850 will be 75W or less. less V = less heat.

5 - You can get the E6850 to 3.6 stable very easy on air, no so with the Q66.

IF it's games then go E6850 if it's server, encoding and apps with 4 cores then go Q66.

 

[imported_Buckfutter]

Thank you. I think i'm convinced to buy the E6850. Its been nagging my mind for quite some time now.
Should i go for PC2-8500 memory if i buy the E6850, or is the PC2-6400 ones good enough for overclocking?

I'm also still wondering if i should buy that insane CPU-cooler. Might get unlucky and it wont fit in the case. If it fits though, its the best CPU-cooler i can get my hands on.
If anyone know a case it will fit in for sure, let me know.
Another question i have that i guess has no real good answer is this. Should the fan blow the air towards the cooler or suck it away? With the TT 120Ultra Extreme you can fit 2 fans, but i don't think its necessary.

Edit: I just read that it will fit inside the P182 case. 1-3mm margin.

/Buckfutter.

 

[NicColt]

Sorry I made a mistake in my post saying that the E6850 could do 3.6 easy on air, it's 4.0 Ghz on air stable and that's WITH STOCK VOLTAGE -WOW

check this out

Man I'm going to be extremely happy just doing 400FSB with Mem 1:1 at 3.6Ghz

wow

BTW all E6x50's are G0 Steppings.

and I don't care about o/c the ram I'm just going to get a good pair of DDR2-6400 and run it at 1:1

 

[imported_Buckfutter]

Wow! I read the forum thread. 4Ghz stable @ 1.49v. Thats insane.

/Buckfutter.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Buckfutter
Thank you. I think i'm convinced to buy the E6850. Its been nagging my mind for quite some time now.
Should i go for PC2-8500 memory if i buy the E6850, or is the PC2-6400 ones good enough for overclocking?

I'm also still wondering if i should buy that insane CPU-cooler. Might get unlucky and it wont fit in the case. If it fits though, its the best CPU-cooler i can get my hands on.
If anyone know a case it will fit in for sure, let me know.
Another question i have that i guess has no real good answer is this. Should the fan blow the air towards the cooler or suck it away? With the TT 120Ultra Extreme you can fit 2 fans, but i don't think its necessary.

Edit: I just read that it will fit inside the P182 case. 1-3mm margin.

/Buckfutter.

blow air towards rear of case. At least, that's why my zalman manual said to do and it seems to work pretty well
be careful of the thermalright. It's the best air cooler money can buy, but many many people have had problems with installation and have ended up lapping their cooler. This is not a big deal for an experienced overclocker, but you are asking for problems if you start messing around with something like that and you don't know what you're doing.
If you want to oc an e6850 then pc2 8500 will most likely be much better than pc2 6400, but compare prices. I got 2x1 gb of pc2 8500 crucial ballistix last month for 89.99 (after a $75 mir) on newegg, but right now pc2 8500 prices seem to be much higher.

 

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AT said that they are at 3.7 on air and 4.0 on water with their G0 stepping Q6600 right now. They were at 3.4 air and 3.6 water with the B3 as a comparison, so you might be able to get more of an oc than you might think on a quad right now.