Q9XXX vs Core i7 930 vs Sandy Bridge vs AMD?

[Gillbot]

My E7500 streams video just fine and an xbox 360 isn't the most powerful machine and it does ok too.

 

[TridenT]

My E7500 streams video just fine and an xbox 360 isn't the most powerful machine and it does ok too.

Broadcasting video, I guess should be more correct.

I'm talking about taking the screen you actually see and letting others see it. Example: http://www.justin.tv/directory/gaming

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1050558706.png <-- Pretty sure my connection is enough, but maybe it isn't. :/

 

[Rubycon]

Broadcasting video, I guess should be more correct.

I'm talking about taking the screen you actually see and letting others see it. Example: http://www.justin.tv/directory/gaming

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1050558706.png <-- Pretty sure my connection is enough, but maybe it isn't. :/

Comcast uses a network technique to fool the speed tests into showing much higher limits than what really exist! Try ftp'ing a 200+ MB file each way to a close server to see what they are.

 

[TridenT]

Comcast uses a network technique to fool the speed tests into showing much higher limits than what really exist! Try ftp'ing a 200+ MB file each way to a close server to see what they are.

I don't have any 200MB files to FTP to a close server I don't own.

And yes, I figured. But I think it gets at least 200 kilabytes/s normally.

 

[Rubycon]

1.55Mbps to stream 1080P material is going to look pretty bad. Better off dropping to 720P. Even then a decent stream starts at 4-6Mbps and goes up from there. If there is a lot of action it's going to get blocky on you.

 

[TridenT]

1.55Mbps to stream 1080P material is going to look pretty bad. Better off dropping to 720P. Even then a decent stream starts at 4-6Mbps and goes up from there. If there is a lot of action it's going to get blocky on you.

I've seen 1k-1.5k streams do fine for 720p.

 

[Dadofamunky]

Why do you NEED more than 2 cores? I still have a E7500 that does nearly everything I want it to along with a T7500 laptop which I use 99% of the time. I also have a 980x and i7 965 when I need the power, and honestly I RARELY ever use them.

LOL. Gillbot, you have too many machines.

 

[Rubycon]

I've seen 1k-1.5k streams do fine for 720p.

Again it depends on the content and how good your audio is. Many sacrifice audio in favor of video. For the typical junk that has garbage music added that's fine. If the audio is important it's going to need 256kbps on its own.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I have been stuck on the same internet PC for ages. Still using Air on P4C. I have wanted to go water on the internet for along time but just couldn't decide what Processor to use I even bought an AMD . But decided to let my daughter sell that setup as I didn't like it . But Now Lain LI has the perfect case out for 1 3x 140 Rad . Using the Intel SB 2600K. I should recieve the new Lian Li Case tomorrow so I getting really excited over this last internet PC I will own . The Case cost more than I like for a none custom PC case . But This thing is so stealth I just had to have it. My custom stuff is great but way to expensive to use online browsing. This s going to be nice . Add to the fact I get fiber connection this spring is going to change my internet experience on a daily bases.

 

[Gillbot]

LOL. Gillbot, you have too many machines.

That isn't even the half of it. :twisted:

 

[Zargon]

4 machines is too many ????? pleeeeeeeeeeeeease

 

[Edrick]

4 machines is too many ????? pleeeeeeeeeeeeease

Whats the point? Unless there are a lot of people living in your house, I see no reason to have that many.

 

[bigsnyder]

A Q9550 will typically overclock to the 3.7Ghz close to stock voltages. That is my recommendation, noticable speed bump with less fuss.

 

[Zargon]

Whats the point? Unless there are a lot of people living in your house, I see no reason to have that many.

just because you cant think of good reasons means there arent any....?

I have 4, and will probably build an HTPC this spring bringing the total to 5. once the wife and I have kids, make it 6.....or 7?

 

[Edrick]

just because you cant think of good reasons means there arent any....?

I was asking what are the reasons as I personally did not see a point to it. I can see having a 1. Gaming PC, 2. HTPC, 3. Laptop, 4. Server. Then if you have a family, perhaps 1 for each of them.

Some people have Gaming PC, General PC, Web Surfing PC, 2nd Gaming PC, HTPC, etc. Other than the fact they may love building them (and I would fall into that group as well), I see no functional reason to have more then the 4 stated above. But thats only my opinion, and I would love to hear other people's opinion.

 

[tyl998]

I only have one PC. If it can run Crysis, then it can certain web surf, watch vids, do Excel, and crunch numbers or anything else I want

 

[BBMW]

Do you run anything that would make use of HT. From what I understand, not very much does.

Truth be told, I've never really gotten the purpose of HT. From my understanding, it's basically multitasking at the hardware level. You don't get more cycles, it just splits up the cycles to act as more cores.

When HT first came out (pre multicore CPUs) it didn't make much sense to me, other than a way to get developers coding software that would work for multicore.

I don't want the i5-2500K though because that thing doesn't have HT. I assume there is significant performance improvements with HT. If there isn't at all then maybe I'd consider it.

Am I wrong or?

I'm thinking of doing video streaming of my screen while playing games, so I think I could utilize that very well.

 

[betasub]

^ HyperThreading makes use of clock cycles that would otherwise be unused because of cache misses or sequential tasking. Anand's article on the original P4's use of HT (to make better use of an inefficient architecture through high clock speed) is interesting reading.

 

[Gillbot]

I was asking what are the reasons as I personally did not see a point to it. I can see having a 1. Gaming PC, 2. HTPC, 3. Laptop, 4. Server. Then if you have a family, perhaps 1 for each of them.

Some people have Gaming PC, General PC, Web Surfing PC, 2nd Gaming PC, HTPC, etc. Other than the fact they may love building them (and I would fall into that group as well), I see no functional reason to have more then the 4 stated above. But thats only my opinion, and I would love to hear other people's opinion.

That's an entirely different debate, why not let this thread get back on track and start a new one asking that very question?

Personally, I've always been a big opponent to the whole "quad core" movement. PC makers are pushing up the speed and number of cores while MOST average consumers don't really need it. Call any maker such as Dell and ask about a typical low end PC and they always try to push Dual Core this or Quad Core that. Really, what typical consumer needs a 6C/12T i7 rig for facebook and freecell?

 

[Deathhorse]

just to add to the q9550 goodness, mines clocked to 3.3ghz and i did it effortlessly with stock everything.

 

[tyl998]

Call any maker such as Dell and ask about a typical low end PC and they always try to push Dual Core this or Quad Core that. Really, what typical consumer needs a 6C/12T i7 rig for facebook and freecell?

Man, Dell is going to be SO prepared when Farmville gets that graphics-engine update and all the facebook users are screaming for killer computers :biggrin:

 

[Gillbot]

Man, Dell is going to be SO prepared when Farmville gets that graphics-engine update and all the facebook users are screaming for killer computers :biggrin:

You'd laugh at some of the stories i've been told by buyers over the years after speaking with dell and other typical companies.

 

[Zargon]

I was asking what are the reasons as I personally did not see a point to it. I can see having a 1. Gaming PC, 2. HTPC, 3. Laptop, 4. Server. Then if you have a family, perhaps 1 for each of them.

Some people have Gaming PC, General PC, Web Surfing PC, 2nd Gaming PC, HTPC, etc. Other than the fact they may love building them (and I would fall into that group as well), I see no functional reason to have more then the 4 stated above. But thats only my opinion, and I would love to hear other people's opinion.

I dont put tons of my work on my gaming rig because it gets leechy having all this crap installed, and a PITA to rebuild.

an always on server, and a file storage dumpsite machine that I try to keep up to date for light gaming

just got a 3d tv so I might build a htpc/3d gaming box


I try and build no more than one PC per year......they just last so long these days

 

[Spikesoldier]

get the q9550 and like others have said, get it to the 3.7 range. you got a nice mainboard, but i think if you had the gigabyte p45 ud4p, that you can hit 4.0 on that board the easiest.

ride out that q9550 until lga2011 and we'll see what's cooking then. i will be riding out my i5.

 

[Dadofamunky]

Hard to find used 9550s and 9650s these days - I keep scrounging Craig's List for them, and Micro Center does not sell them any more. NewEgg still has them at Intel market prices. At this point, I've decided to buy an i7 950 for $199 at MC and do a mobo swap next year sometime. My existing mobo, CPU and RAM will cover a chunk of the cost. But the biggest pill to swallow will be the 256 GB SSD I plan to replace the RAID pair with. And, you know, I'm not interested in Sandy Bridge. VERY skeptical about any integrated GPU nonsense.