Quad SLi coming soon.

[Ackmed]

Seems some people talk bad about ATi's dongle, calling it messy etc. Yet the quad SLI from Dell uses two external power adapters, but not one word. Pretty hypocritical, but thats common.

I dont know how these things are going to get frash air, the are very, very close together. Looks like the air exhausts towards the outside, which is good. The sound card also cuts off part of the bottom fan. Curious as to how hot these things run. Good thing its under warranty.

 

[schtuga]

Originally posted by: Steelski

Originally posted by: schtuga
I can't believe that just because you see this as pointless means everyone else should.

What makes you an authority on what is a wise purchase for anyone else but yourself?

Just curious.

Point taken, it is pointless for me and i am not an authority on wisdom. The hardware iself is not pointless but should really stay in the proffesional sector. Games are in no way going to challenge this and that in itself makes something complete overkill. Whatever I post is only my oppinion, or my oppinion on someone elses thoughts. In that respect i am in no way an authority. You have a choice wether you take what i say on board or not.

I agree with you on many points bud.didn't mean to come off harsh.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Seems some people talk bad about ATi's dongle, calling it messy etc. Yet the quad SLI from Dell uses two external power adapters, but not one word. Pretty hypocritical, but thats common.

I dont know how these things are going to get frash air, the are very, very close together. Looks like the air exhausts towards the outside, which is good. The sound card also cuts off part of the bottom fan. Curious as to how hot these things run. Good thing its under warranty.

First, ATI will have to produce a quad setup that runs without them.. I agree it is not a perfect solution, but until I see something better... . Edited for coffee.

 

[Ackmed]

Because they both come fromt he back of the card, outside the case. Thats how they compare. I dont care about either personally. Neither bothers me at all. Calling the dongle messy, (as well as other terms), but then not saying the same thing about two external cables is hypocritcal, and having a double standard.

I didnt read this whole thread, but I did see that the cards were for sale from Dell a few days ago. Do these work in other motherboards as well, or just some special one? If they do, $700 is a pretty good price compared to 2xGTX which are about $450 a pop alone.

 

[GOREGRINDER]

i say we start taking donations for those of us who are so underpriviledged that we can only have 2 7800's in SLi,...havnt we suffered enough!?,...for under 90 dollars a day,...you too can help give a lowly dual SLi'er the 4 times rendering power he/she needs to surely frag every punk a$$ quakestyle up and down,......


"QUAD DAMAGE!!"





EDIT Check it

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Nah, I saw your point almost immediately, I'm amping. Been on a coffee kick that makes me as highstrung as the proverbial cat in the room full of rocking chairs.

 

[GOREGRINDER]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
as highstrung as the proverbial cat in the room full of rocking chairs.

LOL

 

[Steelski]

Originally posted by: schtuga

Originally posted by: Steelski

Originally posted by: schtuga
I can't believe that just because you see this as pointless means everyone else should.

What makes you an authority on what is a wise purchase for anyone else but yourself?

Just curious.

Point taken, it is pointless for me and i am not an authority on wisdom. The hardware iself is not pointless but should really stay in the proffesional sector. Games are in no way going to challenge this and that in itself makes something complete overkill. Whatever I post is only my oppinion, or my oppinion on someone elses thoughts. In that respect i am in no way an authority. You have a choice wether you take what i say on board or not.

I agree with you on many points bud.didn't mean to come off harsh.

I dont think you did....I read your point and you sounded like a real gent. When i write i sound a lot harsher than when i speak, i bet that most of us here could have a civil conversation. a lot is lost when you dont know the tone that someone is speaking in.

 

[Steelski]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Seems some people talk bad about ATi's dongle, calling it messy etc. Yet the quad SLI from Dell uses two external power adapters, but not one word. Pretty hypocritical, but thats common.

I dont know how these things are going to get frash air, the are very, very close together. Looks like the air exhausts towards the outside, which is good. The sound card also cuts off part of the bottom fan. Curious as to how hot these things run. Good thing its under warranty.

First, ATI will have to produce a quad setup that runs without them.. I agree it is not a perfect solution, but until I see something better... . Edited for coffee.

I think that If ATI were to make a quad setup then it would be a big bag of poo.
I am not merely saying this to annoy ATI users because i am a ATI user myself. I think i have some valid theory. The method ATI uses through the dual DVI signal to obtain the high res possible on the apple display was not possible with the X850 because it had only a single DVI function that limited res to 1600x1200 at 60 hz. I dont know if the new dual DVI has enough bandwidth to support 4 cards. It could turn out that they are not able to go past 1600x1200 at 60hz.
Could someone whed some light on my speculation.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Because they both come fromt he back of the card, outside the case. Thats how they compare. I dont care about either personally. Neither bothers me at all. Calling the dongle messy, (as well as other terms), but then not saying the same thing about two external cables is hypocritcal, and having a double standard.

I didnt read this whole thread, but I did see that the cards were for sale from Dell a few days ago. Do these work in other motherboards as well, or just some special one? If they do, $700 is a pretty good price compared to 2xGTX which are about $450 a pop alone.

The power draw from these four GPU's is probably phenomenal. The external power connectors are expected for something like this. It would probably be very difficult, if not impossible to feed these four cards and the rest of the system on the Dell PSU. ATI's dongle is not what we expected two internal cards would need to communicate with each other after seeing SLI's bridge connector. Now you compare a 2 card crossfire system to this. A four way SLI beast. Do you think thats a legit comparison when a 2 card SLI system which is directly compared to a 2 card crossfire system, has no external power connectors. Before you go around shouting "hypocrite", look at these things for what they are.
When/If ATI comes out with a quad crossfire X1800XT solution, and they don't have external power connectors, and nvidia dongle cable bashers don't say anything good about it, THEN you can shout hypocrite standing on solid ground. Then you can use all of your favorite subtle insult words.

EDIT: BTW. Dont you think quad crossfire would require two dongles anyway? Why you don't think about these things, I do not know.

 

[Steelski]

heres another question. Will there be new rendering modes with this. I am not sure that i would want to be playing a game and then when i press fire the computer registers this and responce on screen is on the 4th frame in Alternate frame mode. Maybee they could incorporate scissors and AF modes in one with a pair rendering one image and another pair the other and then Alternative frames.

 

[imported_Rampage]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Seems some people talk bad about ATi's dongle, calling it messy etc. Yet the quad SLI from Dell uses two external power adapters, but not one word. Pretty hypocritical, but thats common.

I dont know how these things are going to get frash air, the are very, very close together. Looks like the air exhausts towards the outside, which is good. The sound card also cuts off part of the bottom fan. Curious as to how hot these things run. Good thing its under warranty.

Because ATIs quad xfire is so much better.
It uses power adapters because it probably would take down any system if it didnt. I think considering its 4 cutting edge GPUs in one PC, its acceptable until ati does better.

From everything you've said.. you really seem to enjoy getting your hands on a good dongle, ackmed.

 

[Steelski]

Does anyone know if there is an adaptor that can take your graphics card out of the PC or would that be impossible with longer cables.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Steelski

Do what your sig says and "stop engaging in my pointless banter"
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That's not my quote in my sig. It belongs to another member. It's there to remind him of what he said, lest he forget.


I may not strike you as a grown up, ......big whoop. dident your parents ever argue.
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Sure they did. About 25 to 30 years ago.


I am not a kid enough to find such concepts as quad SLI to be more than fantasy for almost all. I object to this level of expence being brought to the PC desktop market as a whole.
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I remember a new Packard Bell Pentium 75 system going for upwards of $2500 when they first came out. The level of expense you are speaking of obviously only applies to yourself. That is fine. Not many people can afford this stuff and many other wouldn't buy it because they could not justify the expense. Others will jump on this setup and you should not condemn them for doing so if they wish to do it.


Gaming is not a critical application that "grown ups" engage in to spend so much money on.
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Nobody said gaming was a critical form of computing that we can't do without.
But don't kid yourself about such a huge market. More adults game these days because they are the generation that grew up with Atari, Nintendo, Commodore 64's, and have been gaming since they were children. Don't blame anyone else if you lost touch with your inner child. I'm 37 and absolutely love my gaming.
I can't wait for my son to be able to play with me through my LAN here at home.
He is still too young for the shooter games that I enjoy, so I am limited to playing his JumpStart, Finding Nemo, Lilo & Stitch and Dora the Explorer games with him, which I still enjoy because he enjoy's it very much.


I can honestly say that i would invest in Quad quatros or more because that is used differently. But for gaming.....honestly....... merely a fantasy that when realised would show little over conventional equipment.
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Quad quattros to do what? Do you currently use quattros for your profession?
Or for just leisure?


Let me get this straight. By saying i am grown up, that automatically makes me not.......I could say that when you use such cliches like "Sometimes, it's better to say nothing at all." you sound like a bit of a (an annoyance)....by the way that meant to mock you as you use such so called phrases.

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No. You saying you're all grown up and as a result would not buy such a system, implies that you are calling anyone who buys this system, childish. That in itself, is immature. If you can't afford it, or can afford it but just can't justify the expense, or if your finger is just about to hit the nuke button on Dell's site, it's all the same to me. You do what you want to do with your money and don't judge others for doing what they want to with their money. The rich can be frugal and not go for such expenditures (probably part of the reason they are rich in the first place), and the not so rich can overextend themselves to get what they want, put more on the old credit card and suffer with the bill later. It's their choice. It's why we have free will.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: southpawuni

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Seems some people talk bad about ATi's dongle, calling it messy etc. Yet the quad SLI from Dell uses two external power adapters, but not one word. Pretty hypocritical, but thats common.

I dont know how these things are going to get frash air, the are very, very close together. Looks like the air exhausts towards the outside, which is good. The sound card also cuts off part of the bottom fan. Curious as to how hot these things run. Good thing its under warranty.

Because ATIs quad xfire is so much better.
It uses power adapters because it probably would take down any system if it didnt. I think considering its 4 cutting edge GPUs in one PC, its acceptable until ati does better.

From everything you've said.. you really seem to enjoy getting your hands on a good dongle, ackmed.

Of course, I read this just as I was drinking my coffee, and coffee travelling at mach speed through ones nasal passages is quite uncomfortable!!!
Thanks for the laugh though!

 

[GOREGRINDER]

so these are more than likely making thier way to AMD 939 systems you think er?,..sorry if it was already brought up,...no sleep does that to ya..heh

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: GOREGRINDER
so these are more than likely making thier way to AMD 939 systems you think er?,..sorry if it was already brought up,...no sleep does that to ya..heh

Something like this could show up at Alienware or other performance OEM offering it AMD style I suppose.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

No. You saying you're all grown up and as a result would not buy such a system, implies that you are calling anyone who buys this system, childish. That in itself, is immature. If you can't afford it, or can afford it but just can't justify the expense, or if your finger is just about to hit the nuke button on Dell's site, it's all the same to me. You do what you want to do with your money and don't judge others for doing what they want to with their money. The rich can be frugal and not go for such expenditures (probably part of the reason they are rich in the first place), and the not so rich can overextend themselves to get what they want, put more on the old credit card and suffer with the bill later. It's their choice. It's why we have free will.

And you are making a BIG deal of someone's comments . . . You are also judging . . . i also think people who buy quad SLI and drive Hummers are wasteful . . . so what?

we're entitled to our opinions [period]

 

[GOREGRINDER]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: GOREGRINDER
so these are more than likely making thier way to AMD 939 systems you think er?,..sorry if it was already brought up,...no sleep does that to ya..heh

Something like this could show up at Alienware or other performance OEM offering it AMD style I suppose.

i think it would be pretty lame to not have board manufacturs mass produce quad sli boards from the likes of DFI,ABIT,MSI,EpoX (you get the idea),...cuz if im gonna spend 250 bux for a motherboard ,..id rather have it be quad sli than X16 dual,..

 

[daveybrat]

After taking a closer look at the 4 Printed Circuit Boards (PCB's) we noticed that only two of the cards had the 6-Pin PCIe power connector. After moving over to the working Dell XPS 600 Renegade system we looked at the back we noticed a couple extra cables plugged into the video card that didn't look normal. Each video dual video card is connected to another power supply to feed the cards the power they need to perform their best. We spoke to nVidia about the power consumption of the system and we were surprised, but not shocked when they told us it needs 850 Watts.

Wow, 850Watts?? :Q

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

No. You saying you're all grown up and as a result would not buy such a system, implies that you are calling anyone who buys this system, childish. That in itself, is immature. If you can't afford it, or can afford it but just can't justify the expense, or if your finger is just about to hit the nuke button on Dell's site, it's all the same to me. You do what you want to do with your money and don't judge others for doing what they want to with their money. The rich can be frugal and not go for such expenditures (probably part of the reason they are rich in the first place), and the not so rich can overextend themselves to get what they want, put more on the old credit card and suffer with the bill later. It's their choice. It's why we have free will.

And you are making a BIG deal of someone's comments . . . You are also judging . . . i also think people who buy quad SLI and drive Hummers are wasteful . . . so what?

we're entitled to our opinions [period]

As I am entitled mine. So what's different? Because you said so? Not.

 

[Steelski]

Quad quattros to do what? Do you currently use quattros for your profession?
Or for just leisure?

ever heard of CAD,
Military simulators?

What i was refering to is if i were involved in such a profession.

The next comment i just can not resist to make. (please dont find me insulting)
"so I am limited to playing his JumpStart, Finding Nemo, Lilo & Stitch and Dora the Explorer games with him, which I still enjoy because he enjoy's it very much."

I hope you enjoy playing those games on you quad Dell.

Dude, your getting a Dell.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Steelski
The fact that someone can afford something does not make it ok to buy.

The only things that are not "OK to buy" are illegal.

Last I checked, video cards are still legal, so there is no reason whatsoever someone "should not" buy this.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Because they both come fromt he back of the card, outside the case. Thats how they compare. I dont care about either personally. Neither bothers me at all. Calling the dongle messy, (as well as other terms), but then not saying the same thing about two external cables is hypocritcal, and having a double standard.

I didnt read this whole thread, but I did see that the cards were for sale from Dell a few days ago. Do these work in other motherboards as well, or just some special one? If they do, $700 is a pretty good price compared to 2xGTX which are about $450 a pop alone.

The power draw from these four GPU's is probably phenomenal. The external power connectors are expected for something like this. It would probably be very difficult, if not impossible to feed these four cards and the rest of the system on the Dell PSU. ATI's dongle is not what we expected two internal cards would need to communicate with each other after seeing SLI's bridge connector. Now you compare a 2 card crossfire system to this. A four way SLI beast. Do you think thats a legit comparison when a 2 card SLI system which is directly compared to a 2 card crossfire system, has no external power connectors. Before you go around shouting "hypocrite", look at these things for what they are.
When/If ATI comes out with a quad crossfire X1800XT solution, and they don't have external power connectors, and nvidia dongle cable bashers don't say anything good about it, THEN you can shout hypocrite standing on solid ground. Then you can use all of your favorite subtle insult words.

EDIT: BTW. Dont you think quad crossfire would require two dongles anyway? Why you don't think about these things, I do not know.

It doesnt matter how the wires get back there. Certain people complain about wires in the back of video cards. Now there is even more in this quad SLI solution. Yet I have not seen the same people complain about that. That is hypocritical, no two ways about it. Dont be mad because I pointed this out about your buddies.

When did I mention quad Crossfire? I didnt. And as I said, wires behind the PC dont bother me either way. Be it power cables, or the dongle. It doesnt bother me.

Originally posted by: southpawuni
Because ATIs quad xfire is so much better.
It uses power adapters because it probably would take down any system if it didnt. I think considering its 4 cutting edge GPUs in one PC, its acceptable until ati does better.

From everything you've said.. you really seem to enjoy getting your hands on a good dongle, ackmed.

Again, when did I say ATi had quad Crossfire? I didnt. I know why it uses external power adapters, thats not what I was talking about.

Nice try with the insult though. Feel free to try and compare your love life to mine, you would feel pretty bad though.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: southpawuni

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Seems some people talk bad about ATi's dongle, calling it messy etc. Yet the quad SLI from Dell uses two external power adapters, but not one word. Pretty hypocritical, but thats common.

I dont know how these things are going to get frash air, the are very, very close together. Looks like the air exhausts towards the outside, which is good. The sound card also cuts off part of the bottom fan. Curious as to how hot these things run. Good thing its under warranty.

Because ATIs quad xfire is so much better.
It uses power adapters because it probably would take down any system if it didnt. I think considering its 4 cutting edge GPUs in one PC, its acceptable until ati does better.

From everything you've said.. you really seem to enjoy getting your hands on a good dongle, ackmed.

Of course, I read this just as I was drinking my coffee, and coffee travelling at mach speed through ones nasal passages is quite uncomfortable!!!
Thanks for the laugh though!

I found this amusing as well!