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GOREGRINDER

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Originally posted by: Ackmed

Whoa, just noticed a part of your post. You claim the GTX is "cutting edge". Thats pretty funny

actually your pretty funny,..like in the way that the kid down the street drools all over everything,..the GTX is a fantastic card,..and im sorry but theres nothing you can do about that

for one anyone that brings up a comparison from 3 thick ass monitor cables twisted up from card to card and then to the monitor from only 2 cards ,..to 2 small power cords straight from case to surge protector,..no bigger than a mouse cord that helps power 4 cards,...has issues with reality comparisons,....there is no comparison,..period,..we are talkin about 4 f*kin cards man!!,..think about it
 

SparkyJJO

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I can only imagine the price tag on that thing - 1 7800gtx 512MB is expensive enough, but 4....? Slap a P-D Extreme on there, and all - what will the price tag be, $4000???? Like, right....

I wouldn't trust Dell to overclock anything anyway - would you really need that thing overclocked in the first place?
 

apoppin

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Dell Quad SLI described as a publicity stunt

"Lipstick on a pig"
Reactions ranged from anger towards Nvidia to anger towards the press for covering something that for all intents and purposes seems to be a PR stunt.

Rahul Sood, CTO of VoodooPC had the following answers to our questions - in italics.

When did you first become aware of the possibility of Quad SLI?
A few months ago.

When did you first become aware that NV was bringing Quad SLI to the market?
When a customer sent me the press release from Dell and Nvidia.

What was your initial reaction to the announcement?
I was taken aback when I learned about the Quad SLI announcement through the media rather than our partner.

Now that some time has passed, has your opinion changed?
I hold Dell in high regard, however, throwing Quad SLI at an Intel based gaming system is much like putting lipstick on a pig.

Will this affect how you deal with your partners in the future?
We'll see how this plays out. History tends to repeat itself.

Another industry source that wished to remain anonymous indicated that Nvidia was acting like the 'Soup Nazi' of Seinfeld fame.

On the other side of the coin, Kelt Reeves, President of Falcon Northwest, offered a different perspective: "Dell's Renegade announcement looks like more of a PR stunt than an actual product launch. "The biggest question you have to ask yourself is that if the Renegade won't even be available until April, won't there be another graphics refresh coming soon that would make paying this much for quad G70s pointless?"

I posed several questions to Kelt in response to his statements. Again, our questions are in italics:

Do you feel that it is fair to the public to announce a product that for all intents and purposes is not available?
Unavailable parts have been ATI's high-end product for over a year now. Manufacturers can announce them sure, but it's only unfair if the press gives them the publicity for it they're seeking.

Considering Nvidia's very public stance on paper launches, do you feel that NV has let down the market with a product that is available in such limited quantities as to make it impossible to get?
Let down, no. Teased - absolutely. Nvidia did set the new bar on no paper launches, so obviously they felt doing something special with Dell was worth lowering that bar again. They've already heard what the other system builders think of that, what remains to be seen is if ATI will be viewed as raising that bar up again on their next product.


If you were a high end computer peripheral vendor, who would you choose to partner with to bring a cutting edge, potentially unstable technology to market?
I wouldn't limit it to one. The only reason to give a manufacturer an exclusive on anything is if what they bring to the table outweighs what will be lost from everyone who doesn't get the exclusive. Obviously, when people think cutting edge parts, overclocking experience, and custom paintwork - they think small, edgy, custom shops like Dell.


In your opinion, which processor currently is the best choice for building a high end gaming rig such as this?
If you're asking me this on Monday, it's the FX-57


Based on the little that is known about this system, do you think that the Intel processor is the biggest bottleneck in this system?
Absolutely, but there's no need to take my opinion. Here's how a heavily OC'd intel-based Dell stacks up to everything else. Given that everyone's graphics card setups were identical, Dell must've done something else wrong to come in last on every single benchmark.

As this is such a boutique product, how do you think driver support will be after launch?
An excellent question, and one that hopefully the customers that pay a lot of money for these systems will get a good answer from Dell & Nvidia for. I speak from experience when I say that clients that spend a lot on their PC expect and demand better support. It's one thing to sell it, it's another to care for it for years.

One of the things that came clearly through from Kelt was his frustration that the media bought the stunt hook, line and sinker with few people stopping to actually dig into the announcement. Nvidia was unwilling to discuss the exact number of machines being made, but when I asked them, "About twenty?" They responded "That number sounds about right."

At the end of the day, the announcement of Quad SLI should be taken more as a proof of concept than anything. It was fairly well known that the ability to run four cores was there, but this demonstrates that the drivers are there also. What remains to be seen, and has always been a thorn in Dell's side is how well this product will be supported. Dell is often criticised for mediocre customer service and spotty technical support, and someone willing to drop $10,000+ on a machine like this is not going to accept that. Another problem that enters the equation is the actual hard cost of each unit. Because of the limited quantities of boards being made, the fabrication costs on the daughter boards must be astronomical on a per card basis. The custom paint on each case will take a tremendous amount of time and money to apply.

The launch of the Quad SLI system should be viewed for what it is - a paper launch of a product that is very unlikely to see the light of day, and by the time it is made available the next generation of Nvidia product should be hitting the shelves. If Nvidia managed to get Dell or Intel to pick up the entire development costs of this platform, good for them. Regardless, Nvidia has succeeded in irritating long-standing partners and potentially alienating the press, which is tired of paper launches.
 

secretanchitman

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publicity stunt...hmm, im kinda 50/50. it would be cool if it saw the day of light and some benchmarks too.
 

nRollo

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Of course this all ignores the fact you can go to newegg today, buy two dual 7800GTs for $1700, put them on an Asus motherboard and have quad SLI today like they did at Toms.

I also read one of the customer reviews of the 6800GT dual card by Gigabyte that said he had two running quad SLI.

Quad SLI is not a "publicity stunt"- it's an option you can purchase today.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: secretanchitman
publicity stunt...hmm, im kinda 50/50. it would be cool if it saw the day of light and some benchmarks too.

well, it got some of nVidia's partners p'o'd . . . they usually don't go public about their disfaction with the Green Giant . . . using an Intel CPU with Qual SLI is like "Lipstick on a pig" :Q

ouch



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Originally posted by: Rollo
Of course this all ignores the fact you can go to newegg today, buy two dual 7800GTs for $1700, put them on an Asus motherboard and have quad SLI today like they did at Toms.

I also read one of the customer reviews of the 6800GT dual card by Gigabyte that said he had two running quad SLI.

Quad SLI is not a "publicity stunt"- it's an option you can purchase today.
i'd take the x-fire bugs over the quad bugs.
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: apoppin

Quad SLI is not a "publicity stunt"- it's an option you can purchase today.
i'd take the x-fire bugs over the quad bugs. [/quote]



What are the quad sli bugs? link?
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: apoppin

Quad SLI is not a "publicity stunt"- it's an option you can purchase today.
i'd take the x-fire bugs over the quad bugs.



What are the quad sli bugs? link?[/quote]

the review at Toms . . . i think you can find it

you made mountains outta tiny x-fire bugs and made conclusions HardOCP did not support
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: apoppin

Quad SLI is not a "publicity stunt"- it's an option you can purchase today.
i'd take the x-fire bugs over the quad bugs.



What are the quad sli bugs? link?

the review at Toms . . . i think you can find it

you made mountains outta tiny x-fire bugs and made conclusions HardOCP did not support[/quote]
i found it . . . i guess you'd rather i did not . . . from THG:
Performance: Staggering Under Its Own Weight
These benchmark scores need to be viewed with a charitable eye - after all, this concept is not yet fully functional. . .

Quake 4 refused to start at all without producing a blue screen. On our first benchmark run, the synthetic benchmark 3DMark 2005 made it through the first of the three game demos, but then the system froze. Even before that, the image output was very jittery and not well synchronized. The following benchmark runs ran smoothly and completed without incident, aside from the problem with the fidgety image. The Quad setup's score of 11821 is a good 2400 points higher than that of two normal 7800s in SLI mode. . . .he game F.E.A.R. benefited the most from Quad SLI. The two Dual cards reached 92 FPS, while the two 7800 GTs together only managed 47 FPS. However, the image was corrupted in the lower third of the screen. Since a part of the image is rendered incorrectly, it isn't clear whether the benchmark results come from only the correctly displayed portion of the image (with the rest simply being ignored) or can truly be attributed to the Quad SLI setup.


Yes BUGGY as hell

and you dared to nitpick xfire in a POSITIVE review?. . . xfire is playable this Quad monster is not.:Q
:thumbsdown:

sure you can buy it . . . but who'd want this buggy crap . . . now?

Q4 wouldn't play, corrupted display, fidgety and jittery images . . . yes BUGS
 
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Why don't they just. Get 4 really fast chips put them on the same board/double decker board add a huge cooling system and stuff it into a single PCI-E slot. With 64 pipelines it should be right and fast. Yes it'll be expensive but probably cheaper than 4 7800's

No need for all these multi cards it's not like they need the extra bandwidth if they do then the cards don't have enough onboard ram!
 

Goosemaster

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Interestingly, these power supplies are not just expensive at around $400 per unit, they apparently are also nearing the limits of the power capability in some residential buildings, as some users have reported to us.


:shocked:
 

Cooler

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Originally posted by: Powermoloch
I wonder what will the new PSU requirements will be....lol

that in itself will be alot $$$. I hate to see somone oc these suckers.
 

BeLikeMiKe716

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wait so are we able to buy these video cards yet?... do you think its no difference from getting just 2 vid cards in sli?... im thinking of getting the amd fx60.... actually.... what do you guys recommend if i was able to spend like 5000 on just the mobo, processor, video cards,... what should i do?...
 

acegazda

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any review is just gonna say its stupid fast and pointless...actually thats just my opinion.
check out overclockers.com
 
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