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CouncilorIrissa

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Can no one beat Firestorm?

No one can do it, not even the person who created it, lol. What a beast of an architecture!!

Fours years and still kicking
My 16 inch M1 Pro laptop is looking better by the day. So glad I picked it up a year ago with a discount.
 

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I did this math, and I discovered that Firestorm in M1 has higher PPC than Firestorm in A14 Bionic, and even Avalanche in A15 Bionic.
 

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I did this math, and I discovered that Firestorm in M1 has higher PPC than Firestorm in A14 Bionic, and even Avalanche in A15 Bionic.
That's entirely possible. Even the same uarch that's clocked higher can score lower per clock in a memory bandwidth-bound scenario as additional clock cycles aren't doing anything.
 

Hitman928

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Yeah I guess the Baidu guy made a mistake. With 3.2 GHz the M1 score/GHz goes from 2.47 to 2.31, placing it behind M2 as I would expect.

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Unfortunately I think there are multiple errors for the frequencies. 7700x has a 5.4 GHz listed max boost, 13700k is also 5.4 GHz. Technically the 7700x has an Fmax of 5.55 GHz but it's unlikely to actually run that high in SPEC. For sure it's not getting 5.65 GHz. M2 clocks at 3.5 GHz (maybe 3.49 technically), not 3.45 GHz. I believe the X3 goes up to 3.36 GHz as well but someone could check me on that.

These results look a little suspect to me but I guess it's the best we have for now, but for sure, the listed frequencies are not reliable.
 

Nothingness

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Unfortunately I think there are multiple errors for the frequencies. 7700x has a 5.4 GHz listed max boost, 13700k is also 5.4 GHz. Technically the 7700x has an Fmax of 5.55 GHz but it's unlikely to actually run that high in SPEC. For sure it's not getting 5.65 GHz. M2 clocks at 3.5 GHz (maybe 3.49 technically), not 3.45 GHz. I believe the X3 goes up to 3.36 GHz as well but someone could check me on that.

These results look a little suspect to me but I guess it's the best we have for now, but for sure, the listed frequencies are not reliable.
Yeah that seems dubious. Modern CPU frequency variations are a real pain for that kind of cross CPU uarch comparisons. I guess the only acceptable way would be to lock CPU frequency the closest possible to boost frequency, but I'm afraid that's not possible for all platforms.

I'm glad we don't have this issue when doing CPU simulations, we leave the pain to the implementation guys
 

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Stop testing exclusively desktop Intel/AMD chips on Spec for christ’s sake. Anyways, here’s another datapoint with MTL, Raptor Mobile, Phoenix, M3.
 

CouncilorIrissa

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Any clue as to why it's mostly Chinese sources that are SPEC licensees? We have Geekerwan, David Huang and now whoever this is.
 

CouncilorIrissa

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Not that.

From the numbers we have now current X Elite SKUs, there is no way the 4.3 GHz SKU is going to match the M2 Max at 30% less power.
Power is of course unrealistic, but the 1T score is likely realistic. It's just that the slide was done before QCOM got RDNA3'd.
 
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