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NTMBK

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It’s possibly also the SLC that was making the difference, like with A15 it has 32MB lmao. (A14, 16MB. M base chips? 8.)

Look, everyone knows it’s perf/GHz but it’s just a colloquial term now, it’s kinda similar to the “nanometer” process naming. Not entirely, because that’s a corporate name that can’t be replaced, whereas we can choose different descriptors for the actual “IPC” values (perf/GHz), but still. Most of us know by now that IPC isn’t really a proper term lol.

I mean I agree, but for absolute performance reasons for example people get sloppy and will shift from “huh interesting IPC” to “what do you mean, AMD and Intel are like 20% ahead on perf vs [insert mobile laptop core from like QC or speculated future one, and I’m sure they’ll do this when MediaTek/Nvidia have a laptop chip too etc]” and cite charts “8@3 this when it’s practically parity or a smaller margin on mobile. And mobile is most of the client market and a majority of the money as well. You cannot have your cake and eat it too on that, lmao. If you want to talk desktops-only — fine, but that’s less and less of the discourse thankfully and deservedly. It’s just a humongous disservice.

Note: nothingness, I don’t mean *you*. I am using it third person/generically.

It’s a pet peeve because neckbeards from the AMD/Intel caucus love playing fast with this.
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FlameTail

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So judging by preliminary SPEC results, Oryon V1 has strong FP performance but weaker INT performance.

So improving INT by a larger amount should be priority for Oryon V2
 
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podspi

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Screw that. I'll do it Excel style!
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Awesome, thank you! This confirms my previous suspicions that the Omnibook X was efficiency-oriented.

That being said, I have determined that I must be a very heavy battery user. I'm getting between 6h~10hr w/ this Omnibook X, which is better than anything I've ever used before, but I was really hoping to hit ~ 15hr, 16hr AT LEAST. I mean, they claim up to 26 hours - idk if we will ever actually get there for anything more than video playback...
 
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So judging by preliminary SPEC results, Oryon V1 has strong FP performance but weaker INT performance.

So improving INT by a larger amount should be priority for Oryon V2
It's a pretty good start. Better than AMD's Zen1 in my opinion. It's interesting to see how they can improve this. If they can increase the clocks a bit and then add some ipc improvements on top, they are in really good spot CPU wise.

GPU, divers and firmware (bit odd behaviour in some units)... Those are problematic.
 

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GPU, divers and firmware (bit odd behaviour in some units)... Those are problematic.
All I want is EGPU support with either an Nvidia or AMD card. Then I could finally ditch my Intel MBP. I’m looking forward to V2 as well.

I have nearly zero expectations of Qualcomm making a GPU that is on par with Nvidia or AMD. But hey let’s see 8Gen4 GPU.
 
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adroc_thurston

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SPECFP doesn't mean much IMO and, frankly, is best ignored unless you know exactly what you're looking at.
Yeah it's an antique.
Most FP workloads of note will be mem/cache-bw benches anyway.
I have nearly zero expectations of Qualcomm making a GPU that is on par with Nvidia or AMD
Current Adreno is pretty modern, they'll just need to have real cache b/w, less skewed ALU/reg ratio and moar frequency.
 
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