Interestingly this odd main memory latency was also previously reported by Notebookcheck.I have no idea if its actually real, i just saw someone post it discord claiming snapdragon x, hence why i put "allegedly"
I would guess Emulator shenanigans, just like with Transmeta Efficeon cheating on benchmarks.Interestingly this odd main memory latency was also previously reported by Notebookcheck.
I guess AIDA64 results on Snapdragon have to be considered with a huge grain of salt until this is corrected.
8G3 NPU is 45 TOPS according to the same source.When compared to 8G3, AI/DSP computational performance has improved by almost double. GPU model name is Adreno 830.
Well yeah cheaper PCBs.X Elite + LPDDR5X-7500???
You need the membw for either of those things, and unless QC bumps the SLC to AAPL levels, no bueno.As per leaks, the Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 that it will be released in a few months, will have a more powerful GPU/NPU than the X Elite.
Yep, good news. Cheaper and why not. The GPU stuff sucks. Even if it worked well it’d be worthwhile to offer this. As of right now they could go down to 6400 for all I care.
X Elite + LPDDR5X-7500???
Peak performance really doesn’t matter for this case. What matters is the efficiency and feature set, e.g. frame interpolation.As per leaks, the Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 that it will be released in a few months, will have a more powerful GPU/NPU than the X Elite.
Funny
Yeah and it would be a wasted effort even if they do something grand and then the crappy drivers never allow it to reach full potential.And Qualcomm is not going to do an insanely beefy GPU which I know you keep hammering about lol. We’ll just see a mostly higher clocked 830 for X2.
Late 2025/early 2025 should be a fun time for iGPUs. Hopefully the QC GPU in X Elite 2 is on par with Lunar Lake.Interestingly, a former AMD Radeon/RDNA engineer has joined Qualcomm's Adreno team:
It looks like Qualcomm is working on adding desktop class features to such as work graphs etc.. which is cool.
All those changes being made to make it a proper desktop-class architecture, will be wasted if Qualcomm doesn't put a fat GPU in their X Elite G2.
By 'fat GPU', I am asking for them to simply put double the GPU that is in the Snapdragon 8G4 or 8G5 mobile SoC. Not something absurdly beefy like the M3 Max. Even Apple does it for the base M chip
A14 (4-core GPU) -> M1 (8-core GPU)
A15 (5-core GPU) -> M2 (10-core GPU)
A17 (6-core GPU) -> M3 (12-core GPU).
There's potential there. If they don't do anything else and just halve the latency with better engineering, they could become a serious thorn in x86's side.
Yeah, the part about "hurting" AMD/Intel with Purwa is pure speculation. Depends on:A comment with some supply chain info + speculation:
Strix-halo is right there.I want fat Adreno GPU!
The fabric is very low power, so expected.Core-to-Core latency of Oryon CPU in Snapdragon X Elite:
That's kinda antithetical to what LNL is.unless they have a high volume low cost LNL-M part
It also bears the question of when Canim will be on the market. It was already a "late to the party" part when the high-end ones were still expected to be released much earlier. With the delayed launch/mass volume of Hamoa, very little noise regarding Purwa, and now the heat coming from AMD and Intel, I can't see this possibly coming soon enough to be worth prioritizing over other stuff.Yeah, the part about "hurting" AMD/Intel with Purwa is pure speculation. Depends on:
How quickly NPU becomes a necessity? (needs some killer software that even grandma wants to use).
AMD already HAS an NPU with 50 TOPS. If need be, they could release a cheap chiplet based 4 core CPU. Not sure how quickly Intel can adapt to a sudden change in market dynamics, unless they have a high volume low cost LNL-M part that doesn't sacrifice NPU TOPS.
Not that interesting really.Interestingly, a former AMD Radeon/RDNA engineer has joined Qualcomm's Adreno team: