"we are already beginning to see some applications beginning to take advantage of the NPU"Does it make sense for Qualcomm to scale the NPU for their next generation of Snapdragon X chips?
This question was asked in the Apple thread, and name99 said this notable thing:
In the Windows ecosystem, we are already beginning to see some applications beginning to take advantage of the NPU (Examples: Davinci Resolve video editor, dJay Pro audio production software...).
Not the case at least for Meteor Lake:
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GPU is better when using the same framework, though it will obviously eat more power.
Not sure what you mean by "paths".
Good thing. You ended up explaining it better in the subsequent postYou totally missed my point.
Yes, how do I sign up? Send the link@FlameTail, you got an audience now. Time to claim that Pegasus has a 30% IPC increase and you could be the next adroc. Maybe even send your insights to MLID next.
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My source just updated me with XE G2 roadmap which are supposedly launching in H1 2026. There are two SoCs planned:
1. SoC codenamed Glymur:
- Higher tier than Hamoa
- 18 cores CPU (6L+6L+6M), cluster of six
- 192-bit LPDDR5x (don't know final speed yet)
- Full DX12U features including hardware RT
2. SoC codenamed Mahua
That's all I know atm, at least we have an idea what Qualcomm are planning in 2026. Again, treat this as rumor until real thing happens.
- Hamoa successor
- 12 cores CPU (6L+6M), cluster of six
- 128-bit LPDDR5x (don't know final speed yet)
- Full DX12U features including hardware RT
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Maybe they were confused by the translation.On a more serious note, why is he quoting me? I am not a leaker. I was only discussing a hypothetical scenario.
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Idk about IPC, but with regards to clock speeds...@FlameTail, you got an audience now. Time to claim that Pegasus has a 30% IPC increase
Dear Powers That Be at Anandtech Forums,On a more serious note, why is he quoting me? I am not a leaker. I was only discussing a hypothetical scenario.
A810 is 40% faster than A710, both are 1 CU (and probably around the same frequency too). I guess the 8G4 GPU is at least 60% faster than 8G3.
(source: @evleaks)
Ice Universe shared on Weibo that Adreno 830 is being tested with a 1250MHz clock (1.25GHz)Rumors for 8 Gen 4 Clock Frequency: Meeco
Not sure if I have seen the GPU Clock yet.
CPU Clock GPU Clock 8650AB (Snapdragon 8 Gen 3) 3.3 GHz 903 MHz 8650AC (Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 FG) 3.4 GHz 1000 MHz 8750AB (Snapdragon 8 Gen 4) 4.37 GHz 1150 MHz 8750AC (Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 FG) 4.47 GHz 1250 MHz
That's crazy. Same clock speed as the 3.8 TFLOPS GPU in the X Elite.Ice Universe shared on Weibo that Adreno 830 is being tested with a 1250MHz clock (1.25GHz)
If 8G4 is already reaching 4.5 GHz.... 5 GHz for the next generation doesn't sound far.Rumors for 8 Gen 4 Clock Frequency: Meeco
Not sure if I have seen the GPU Clock yet.
CPU Clock GPU Clock 8650AB (Snapdragon 8 Gen 3) 3.3 GHz 903 MHz 8650AC (Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 FG) 3.4 GHz 1000 MHz 8750AB (Snapdragon 8 Gen 4) 4.37 GHz 1150 MHz 8750AC (Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 FG) 4.47 GHz 1250 MHz
| 3DMARK WILD LIFE EXTREME (FPS) | 3DMARK STEEL NOMAD LIGHT (POINTS) | |
| M2 | 40 | 2600 |
| M3 | 48 | 3300 |
| M4 | 53 | 3600 |
| X Elite (4.6 TFLOPS) | 44 | 2400 |
| 8G2 | 22 | 1050 |
| 8G3 | 32 | 1750 |
| 8G4 (estimate) | 51 | 2800 |
| RTX 4050 60W | 90 | 8000 |
If next X Elite clocks that high and if it also has IPC improvements... It's going to be rough times ahead for Intel and AMD.If 8G4 is already reaching 4.5 GHz.... 5 GHz for the next generation doesn't sound far.
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And at 4.5 GHz, 8G4 could reach 3400 points in Geekbench 6, a hair behind the A18 Pro's 3500 points (as per rumours).
So in Geekbench 5 where A18 doesn't have the advantage of SME, 8G4 might actually be FASTER THAN IT.
But at what cost?
Looks at power consumption.