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Ghostsonplanets

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I estimate the iGPU will eat only about 10W. Very low power consumption, but the performance is also very low, so nothing to write home about.
At least should be meaningfully faster and lower power than anything Intel or AMD have in the same price bracket.

Availability and design wins will be key here. QCOM has a good opportunity because the low-end consumer is less demanding with regards to software compatibility.
 

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Snapdragon X Elite/X Plus' Hexagon NPU gets DirectML support:
 

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Seems like Wccftech managed to get some early benchmarks of the upcoming Snapdragon X1P-42-100 featured in the Asus Proart PZ13;

CPU-Z
Cinebench 2024
Geekbench 6
3D Mark Time Spy
3D Mark Steel Nomad Light
Versus my $600 7840U laptop from 2023:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/4099092?baseline=7571691

It's probably about equal if both were in Linux but I'm not about to install Windows again. And SDXP should have better battery life and less fan noise. Is Linux working out of the box on SDX yet?
 
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Seems like Wccftech managed to get some early benchmarks of the upcoming Snapdragon X1P-42-100 featured in the Asus Proart PZ13;
Saw that already, so Qualcomms Budget Option is basically CPU Performance that was available for 2 Years now with Phoenix and an atrocious GPU. This won't help their market share at all.
 

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Saw that already, so Qualcomms Budget Option is basically CPU Performance that was available for 2 Years now with Phoenix and an atrocious GPU. This won't help their market share at all.
Well, it probably didn't cost much to develop this cut down part. And it could be a good volume market because it should be quiet and last long. Many people will not suffer too much from a meager GPU.
But even fewer would care if they cut the NPU and yet here we are...
 

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Versus my $600 7840U laptop from 2023:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/4099092?baseline=7571691

It's probably about equal if both were in Linux but I'm not about to install Windows again. And SDXP should have better battery life and less fan noise. Is Linux working out of the box on SDX yet?
It looks like a high score for this part and laptop. A quick glance at other results, I'd say it averages at about 2200 to 2300 ST in GB6 running Windows.

WCCTech shows X1P-42 is above Core Ultra 9 185H. I guess if they keep the battery life, and I have no reason to believe otherwise, it might be competitive for those wanting thin and light laptops but not too stingy on their pockets.

Of course, why would somebody choose it over an M1 Macbook Air is still beyond, but let's not act like it does not happen every day. To each their own!
 
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gdansk

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It looks like an unusually high score for this part and laptop. A quick glance at other results, I'd say it averages at about 2200 to 2300 ST in GB6.

WCCTech shows X1P-42 is above Core Ultra 9 185H. I guess if they keep the battery life, and I have no reason to believe otherwise, it might be competitive for those wanting thin and light laptops but not too stingy on their pockets.

Of course, why would somebody choose it over an M1 Macbook Air is still beyond, but let's not act like it does not happen every day. To each their own!
It's a completely average score when not hobbled by Windows actually.

That's my laptop running completely stock at 28W PPT.
 

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Macs are not a thing everywhere, and thus not an alternative.
I don't know if Qualcomm can (or should) count on that. People willing to suffer emulation penalties and incompatibilities are probably mainly using web apps. Then... after all, why not a Mac?
 

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It's a completely average score when not hobbled by Windows actually.

That's my laptop running completely stock at 28W PPT.
Yeah, you are right. I forgot to say it averages at that score for Windows, which makes for a fairer comparison.
 
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Hasn't it been proven enough that Windows must die?
It's only Win11 that needs to die.

Win7, Win8.1 (yes, even that coz I use it everyday) and Win10 are far less intrusive and let you work in relative peace compared to Win11 that is always shoving feature updates in your face and making you angry by changing things that you were used to for ages.
 

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Because when you struggle with a Mac as a primarily habitual Windows user, you really STRUGGLE a lot!
I don't like macOS, but as a long time UNIX user it's much less alien to me than Windows. It's a question of habits and being able to change them (beyond available software, but that's another discussion).
 

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Because when you struggle with a Mac as a primarily habitual Windows user, you really STRUGGLE a lot!

To the point of cursing so much that for the sake of your sanity, you switch back to Windows.
It's not so bad. On a given day I switch between Linux (work), Mac OS (home) and Windows (to play a game) and after doing this for 9 years I can no longer remember the teething pains. At some point it became automatic like code-switching.

But let's not make this entirely about operating systems! I am just questioning the features Qualcomm chose to cut. I find it hard to believe an NPU will see more use than the GPU (as others mentioned, it could be a good Minecraft machine for the kids).
 

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Seems like Wccftech managed to get some early benchmarks of the upcoming Snapdragon X1P-42-100 featured in the Asus Proart PZ13;

CPU-Z
Cinebench 2024
Geekbench 6
3D Mark Time Spy
3D Mark Steel Nomad Light

WHAT
 

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Seems like Wccftech managed to get some early benchmarks of the upcoming Snapdragon X1P-42-100 featured in the Asus Proart PZ13;

CPU-Z
Cinebench 2024
Geekbench 6
3D Mark Time Spy
3D Mark Steel Nomad Light
LOL

 

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$1100. That's bullshit from ASUS.
I think it's fine given the price bracket is <$700. But I definitely don't understand why keep a 40 TOPs NPU with single-channel memory.

QCOM will really need to push their OEMs to offer cheap designs with this. Otherwise it's another huge failure like X Elite.
They saved what? $5 max by going single channel?
They save a lot in platform costs but it's definitely a puzzling decision.
 
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