That's what I am thinking... if goes with Mali will crash awfully, but with nVIDIA iGPU is another story and even more, would be better than Adreno.
That's what I am thinking... if goes with Mali will crash awfully, but with nVIDIA iGPU is another story and even more, would be better than Adreno.MTK will face the same problems QCOM has. The supposedly Nvidia IGP will be a good draw and alleviate the gaming and content creation compatibility issues and concerns.
AMD problem is that they don't have volume and availability is slow to ramp up.I dare say that if Qcom and Mtek want to compete in the $500-$800 market, AMD is going to provide notable competition with Kraken. It won't suffer for ST performance, will have plenty of MT performance, will have iGPU performance very near 780M, and be cost competitive. HawkPoint is also still heavy in the market as well.
MT will be similar. ST within 10%. Die size and pricing remain questionable.Why would it be worse than Phoenix? Assuming that they go with a single CCX, it should have better ST, similar MT, similar sustained iGPU performance with a larger NPU and next generation efficiency.
Big problem still is the battery life isn’t really good enough. Qualcomm has that cornered at appropriate costs while also offering more peak performance/MT than Lunar or much lower cost as with the new 8 core die.AMD problem is that they don't have volume and availability is slow to ramp up.
If they solve those with Kraken, it will indeed provide a good competition against SDX.
You were right:I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm not.
I think that ARM have gone nuts on licensing costs for post v8-A cores.
Arm chief executive Rene Haas has previously said V9 brings in twice the royalties of the previous generation V8.
There's quite the gap between 46 and 42. What are the differences? Boost clock/Maximum Clock of CPU/GPU? Or is one Hamoa and the other Purwa?From Ryan Shrout:
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A direct photo of the Purwa motherboard
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Qualcomm' official benchmark figures.
Looking forward to that one.Cristiano Amon said something very funny (paraphrasing):
"We are going to turn the Snapdragon Summit 2024 into a Colosseum of benchmarks"
Quite interesting that there's such boost clock variance. I think there's also the unannounced X1P-24-100, right? I wonder how that will clock or will be cutdown.View attachment 107020
(Some details may be wrong).
They forgot Computex. "Lunar Lake buuust this myth!""Intel is obsessed with Qualcomm and ARM"
Funny video (everytime Intel took a dig at Qualcomm during their Lunar Lake event).
2024 is the turning point of the chip industry. In the next month or so, everyone will see the turning point!
The two processor players in the first echelon of the industry have firmly chosen "dual ultra-large cores", and the winner will be revealed soon.
Xiaomi's upcoming flagship new platform will be strongly upgraded, and the new desktop-level micro-architecture will bring "three super features": ultra-high clock speed, ultra-strong performance, and ultra-low power consumption. Regardless of every point, it is a subversive upgrade to the past.
Based on the current baseline data, it is exactly the same as when we jointly defined it three years ago. After three years of in-depth joint research and development, coupled with the comprehensive optimization of our system core this time, it will be the most significant performance experience jump in history, and the chip industry pattern has reached an inflection point.
8G4 is adding a higher IPC uArch, 1GHz clock gains over 8G3, new Slice GPU uArch with 50% perf/W gains, new memory controller and also fabbed on N3E. No wonder he's excited for it. Should be a game-changer for Android SoCs (So much performance wasted on such OS though...).Xiaomi seems excited about (presumably) the 8 Gen 4. (President at Xiaomi)
But take with a grain of salt. Obviously, they want to hype up their next flagship smartphone.
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The issue is that 8G4 is on par of Mid tier Intel laptop processors in terms of price, is massive the increase.8G4 is adding a higher IPC uArch, 1GHz clock gains over 8G3, new Slice GPU uArch with 50% perf/W gains, new memory controller and also fabbed on N3E. No wonder he's excited for it. Should be a game-changer for Android SoCs (So much performance wasted on such OS though...).
Granted, it's also rumored there's a 20 to 30% price increase from 8G3 to 8G4. So it will be quite expensive and a major price driver for next year flagships.
It's disappointing that ever since 888 generation, mid and low-end have received negligible advancements while flagship SoC have marched on. 8 Gen 2 performance on mid-end SoCs should have been a reality by now.
QCOM is the Nvidia of Android SoCs. They'll be fine. MTK has the tech but lacks the mindshare.The issue is that 8G4 is on par of Mid tier Intel laptop processors in terms of price, is massive the increase.
If Mediatek sells for 30% less, Qualcomm would find trouble and if their D8400 is full big cores (even if is A7XX only), Qualcomm should deliver a game changer in their 7G4 too.
The issue is that MTK is not increasing their work in the Android market. With nVIDIA would make massive impact in Windows one.QCOM is the Nvidia of Android SoCs. They'll be fine. MTK has the tech but lacks the mindshare.
I was also waiting for GPU improvements. Apple Silicon CPU are great, but the GPUs still have room for improvements.However I really want to see if there’s any movement on GPU. M4 also made little progress on that front so I’m interested to see if A18 moves things forward there.
I have been under that impression for a while now. Apple seems to be on a 'rolling release' scheme, with features added as they're ready.One of the most interesting things to me in the Apple Silicon CPU Optimization Guide is that Apple appears to use architectural features when they are ready to, and don’t maintain a strict generation across the line.