I don’t get what’s so good about this considering it’s MT. They have more cores and the “e-cores” are smaller P cores so it’s not surprising that Qualcomm leads in MT
I don’t get what’s so good about this considering it’s MT. They have more cores and the “e-cores” are smaller P cores so it’s not surprising that Qualcomm leads in MTHe says it takes 12 W to get this. While he doesn’t post the Snapdragon run, he claims that at 12 W it scores over 10,000.
I’m highly doubtful it’ll pull only 12W while producing a 10k score.
Hmm the article says the rumor has single core at 5.5W and all-core at 14.2W.
Some storytellers once even talked about 8W🤣🤣🤣
That is not certain yet.They have more cores and the “e-cores” are smaller P cores
WHAAAAT? MTK GPU BEING BETTER THAN QC ONE?Hm should be interesting to see what this thing can do.
I’ll be interested to see how good the efficiency is vs. the 9400. Outrageous? Perhaps this version is a bigger improvement from the X Elite arch than previously anticipated.
I think it's coming as AI workloads for PCs and ADAS systems need the bandwidth at scale. It's not out of the question that there may also be a SKU without on-package memory as well in a lower tier.Will 2nd gen Snapdragon X have on-package memory?
Advantages of on-package memory;
• Less space taken up in motherboard
• Reduces motherboard cost and complexity
• Allows to scale to very wide buses (512b+) cost efficiently
• Reduces memory power consumption
Disadvantages of on-package memory;
• SoC vendor gets to decide what kind of RAM is paired with their SoC
• OEMs can no longer choose the kind of RAM to be paired with the SoC and negotiating price with RAM suppliers.
That last one seems to be a stickler point. Supoosedly the issue with Lunar Lake is that Intel has to sell the memory at 'cost' to the OEMs, who wouldn't accept any other kind of deal. This degrades Intel's margins for Lunar Lake. Apple on the other hand has no such issue with integrating on-package memory to their SoCs, because they are both the SoC vendor and OEM in one company.
NAND is more susceptible to failure than DRAM. Which is why soldered storage is a bad idea for laptops.One wonders why there isn't a standard module similar to mobile GPU form factor "card" for SoCs and ram that different vendors can plug into their motherboards for better modularity. Another possibility: dram and non-volatile storage as a part of a FOVEROS style package...
True, but this can be done in phones...NAND is more susceptible to failure than DRAM. Which is why soldered storage is a bad idea for laptops.
Mobile chips use Package-on-Package memory so you don't worry about space limitations.Will 2nd gen Snapdragon X have on-package memory?
Advantages of on-package memory;
• Less space taken up in motherboard
• Reduces motherboard cost and complexity
• Allows to scale to very wide buses (512b+) cost efficiently
• Reduces memory power consumption
NAND is more susceptible to failure than DRAM. Which is why soldered storage is a bad idea for laptops.
FYI, TM Roh is the CEO of Samsung Electronics.TM Roh is set to depart for Hawaii to attend the Qualcomm Summit on the 21st. He is also scheduled to negotiate directly with Qualcomm, as Samsung decided to fully equip the S25 with the 8G4, and the price of the 8G4 has significantly increased.
link broken
Snapdragon Dev Kit cancelled!
Qualcomm cancels Snapdragon Dev Kit, refunds all orders
Qualcomm cancels Snapdragon Dev Kit, refunds all orders | Jeff Geerling
www.jeffgeerling.com
lol. What a failure.Snapdragon Dev Kit cancelled!
Qualcomm cancels Snapdragon Dev Kit, refunds all orders
Qualcomm cancels Snapdragon Dev Kit, refunds all orders | Jeff Geerling
www.jeffgeerling.com
That really sucks. By the specs, it was a nice little machine. The review I saw of one was not favorable, even if the build quality was mostly good. It shipped with a Home version of Win11 (on a dev kit lol) for example.Snapdragon Dev Kit cancelled!
The Dev Kit had many weird quirks and some of them were flaws, yes.That really sucks. By the specs, it was a nice little machine. The review I saw of one was not favorable, even if the build quality was mostly good. It shipped with a Home version of Win11 (on a dev kit lol) for example.
I guess, but getting Linux support for it would have been boss. Only real flaws from an end-user point-of-view were:Better ship nothing at all, instead of shipping a flawed product?