According the this article: It is indeed for the cut down plus model. Also, the projected MSRP for laptop in this leak will be in that range or above it. Information about actual costs as well as “SAPP” are in the article.
According the this article: It is indeed for the cut down plus model. Also, the projected MSRP for laptop in this leak will be in that range or above it. Information about actual costs as well as “SAPP” are in the article.Intel 7 is not actually cheap, and it could be an X Plus (which for now is the X Elite die but binned down) they’re comparing with which also makes sense.
One thing I think we can say fairly confidently is the AMD and Intel guys (yes here too) who thought Qualcomm was going to try and pull the same 8cx Gen 3 Lenovo X13S systems @ $1200-1600 were wishcasting.
That makes no sense, it never made sense in light of the size of this launch, the 170mm^2 N4P die size, etc. Qualcomm is greedy but they do respond to competition, and the PC space as a newcomer having bought Nuvia for $1.4B does not in fact imply the entire range of products would be expensive, or rather that the value prop wouldn’t be there, etc.
If we are to believe the Geekbench entries, there's an Inspiron Plus coming with X1E80100, which is the intermediate model, not the X1E78100 that comes with no turbo mode.According the this article: It is indeed for the cut down plus model.
But it seems the "carcass" is listed as ~90$ more expensive, so the cheaper SoC may be "compensated" by more expensive motherboard (could it be those VRMs after all?), if I am reading the table right?Snapdragon X Series chips cost only half as much as Intel Raptor Lake's, with up to 98% longer battery life - VideoCardz.com
Qualcomm Snapdragon X outclasses Intel Alder Lake in video playback time Leaked internal Dell documents compare older XPS 13 systems to the upcoming Snapdragon-based version. One of the main features of the upcoming Qualcomm X Series will be battery life. The ARM-based processors may set a new...videocardz.com
Cheaper than RPL?? If so, QCOM is being very, very aggresive for TAM and design wins.
Yea, QC platform costs are pretty awful.But it seems the "carcass" is listed as ~90$ more expensive, so the cheaper SoC may be "compensated" by more expensive motherboard (could it be those VRMs after all?), if I am reading the table right?
No that was bull. Charlie Demerjian just bs’d lol. QC probably does have quality standards but the rumor was forcing them to buy QC PMICs which they explicitly said is not true in October.
But it seems the "carcass" is listed as ~90$ more expensive, so the cheaper SoC may be "compensated" by more expensive motherboard (could it be those VRMs after all?), if I am reading the table right?
They just changed some things about the body of the laptop with the savings. Doubt it’s about some grave increase in cost from VRMs lol.Okay, but . . .
Something seems amiss.
Interestingly, according to someone I talk to on an AV1 encoding discord the Google Tensor G3 cores support SVE2....
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Yeah but that’s not surprising. Google support MTE too, and I don’t think QC does even on flagships.Interestingly, according to someone I talk to on an AV1 encoding discord the Google Tensor G3 cores support SVE2....
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For the tablet, 3.4GHz. For the laptops, that or the highest SKU.Microsoft build, next week. Most curious about what clocks X elite will be offered on the surface line.
I want to see if this sku will be offered X1 Elite (X1E-84-100), after all they bragged about it in their keynote.For the tablet, 3.4GHz. For the laptops, that or the highest SKU.
I'm wondering if *any* laptop will come X1E-84. There's no such Geekbench entry (only Qualcomm demonstrator).I want to see if this sku will be offered X1 Elite (X1E-84-100), after all they bragged about it in their keynote.
I think that Photo Filter MT test may be a clue why it may not be released. The chip probably throttled hard in that test to get such a significant dive in performnace, despite acing everywhere else. So it can't sustain heavy MT workloads.But the difference is not that massive it seems: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/5826441?baseline=6123006
Or it's just that it's a demonstrator and not a polished laptop ;-)I think that Photo Filter MT test may be a clue why it may not be released. The chip probably throttled hard in that test to get such a significant dive in performnace, despite acing everywhere else.
Why wouldn’t it be? Not sure why you’re so hard about it, but I have a pretty good guess.I want to see if this sku will be offered X1 Elite (X1E-84-100), after all they bragged about it in their keynote.
Of course.Samsung Galaxy Book4 Edge (Pro) Leak: Power-Laptops mit ARM-Power
Auch von Samsung dürfen wir in wenigen Tagen die ersten Notebooks mit den neuen, sehr leistungsstarken ARM-Chips der Snapdragon X-Serie von Qualcomm erwarten. Samsung bringt mit dem Galaxy Book4 Edge und Book4 Edge Pro gleich zwei Varianten auf den Markt, die man mit 14 oder 16 Zoll großen...winfuture.de
Samsung seems be to offering good choices.
I’m just annoyed by their marketing lol. They keep on talking but not actually releasing the product.Why wouldn’t it be? Not sure why you’re so hard about it, but I have a pretty good guess.
Dude it’s been planned to be released around this time since October. They’re hyping it up because it’s a big deal for WoA and PC’s and it got delayed, simple as. You’re an Apple fan (Jimmy I believe) which I think explains a bit more of the irritation and FUD. It wasn’t going to be AMD and Intel forever as much as I know Mac Rumors etc would’ve loved that.I’m just annoyed by their marketing lol. They keep on talking but not actually releasing the product.
I’m not Jimmy. I would very much likeDude it’s been planned to be released around this time since October. They’re hyping it up because it’s a big deal for WoA and PC’s and it got delayed, simple as. You’re an Apple fan (Jimmy I believe) which I think explains a bit more of the irritation and FUD. It wasn’t going to be AMD and Intel forever as much as I know Mac Rumors etc would’ve loved that.
There are at least 10 different designs that have leaked and will be released at Computex or sooner. Cut this crap out. They’ve said it’s coming in the summer for some tome now, they’re not further delaying or obfuscating.
Fair enough.I’m not Jimmy. I would very much like
competition as that would keep Apple on their toes.
Unless you view it as a 4th gen product that coincides with the full level of x86 compatibility the WoA platform should have had from the start.Quite a lot of design wins for essentially a first gen product: