Oh that’s right. If the Nvidia WoA SoC on Intel 3 is real, this will be awesome to see with their X925.
CPU package power: 6.5W
IA Cores power: 2.4W
System Agent Power: 1.9W
So that means we have 2.2W unaccounted for. And SA is also uncore and that's something they can improve. I believe package power is actually lot lower than 6.5W and they didn't close enough background applications, but still. That means in this case the CPU power takes up only little over 1/3rd. Cutting 2.4W to 0.8W is not too significant.
You got it confused with 18A. 18A is 10% over 20A. Intel 3 is 18% over Intel 4, meaning based on your calculations it'll be on par with N3B. 20A is further 15% better, and 18A is 10% on top of that.
They never had a performance issue. They were always absolutely class-leading, and it won't take 18A to beat N3. 20A should be enough.Oh that’s right. If the Nvidia WoA SoC on Intel 3 is real, this will be awesome to see with their X925.
One more datapoint for my prediction lolAlso should be noted that you can now build your own Yoga laptop (i think it may be broken since it only costs an extra $25 to add 16GB of ram.....)
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I didn’t say it was. The issue is their HD libraries are not good enough, not just in terms of density but leakage with 18A. That’s why Qualcomm decided to pause. And Intel 3 is kind of MIA on that.They never had a performance issue. They were always absolutely class-leading, and it won't take 18A to beat N3. 20A should be enough.
Their problem was that due to the high frequency focus, it was less dense.
Qualcomm is too late. they need to do more than just win on efficiency. And I don’t think they will win on performance. Qualcomm devices will probably be higher in battery life, but not by enough.Yes yes, very good.
Lunar Lake vs X Elite.
Qualcomm will have the win in CPU Performance, CPU Efficiency, NPU efficiency.
But when it comes to the GPU...
It's not looking good.
In fact I would go as far as to say it's weakest point of the X Elite.
● GPU drivers are evidently not polished enough
● GPU doesn't have Ray tracing, Mesh Shaving or Hardware Acceleration for SuperSampling.
● Adreno's GPU Compute performance is lacking, despite the graphics performance being good.
● X Elite's iGPU is better than Intel Meteor Lake and AMD Hawk Point in graphics benchmarks, but it's a mixed story in actual gaming.
● I estimate that Intel Lunar Lake iGPU and AMD Strix Point iGPU will surpass X Elite's iGPU in graphics benchmarks. You can imagine how it's going to be in actual games : |
Qualcomm needs to make big improvements to the GPU with X Elite G2. (See my above post)
Qualcomm has a better cost structure than Lunar Lake. It’s a 170mm^2 die on N4P. Intel’s is a 140mm^2 die on N3B + another 40ish mm^2 die on N6, packaged too which is a bit more $.Qualcomm is too late. they need to do more than just win on efficiency. And I don’t think they will win on performance. Qualcomm devices will probably be higher in battery life, but not by enough.
I don’t think there’s any night and day difference between Qualcomm and Lunar Lake. And AMD was aleady not that bad. If Lunar Lake is close to the claims, Strix will be bringing up the rear in efficiency, but again, not by much.
I think Qualcomm can grab a piece of the market, but I think their architecture will remain a distant fourth. I don’t see them even matching Apple, let alone the x86 cousins. Now, uf Nuvia had built a ready to roll laptop chip IP in 2021 instead of a server target that Qualcomm needed 3 1/2 years to modify…
So this is how much I paid for the 32GB ram, 1TB drive model
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YepFor that price I am willing to gamble.
Apple is asking the same for 8/256 and an inferior display.
You should never buy Macbooks at RRP. Apple authorised resellers have them on sale all the time like B&H and Best Buy.Apple is asking the same for 8/256 and an inferior display.
In saying that, it will be a great laptop and great specs for that price too. Please post your review/benchmarks when you tested it.For that price I am willing to gamble.
Sure but this is B&H and it’s worth pointing out that even at BestBuy where they’ll run sales, they’ll run sales on the Qualcomm stuff too. And I suspect most people don’t buy from B&H anyways but instead BestBuy (but again, even then, these are sales and you’ll see the same thing with QC stuff).You should never buy Macbooks at RRP. Apple authorised resellers have them on sale all the time like B&H and Best Buy.
There's a M3 Air 13" 16GB RAM model with 256GB SSD for $1149. Considering you didn't pay RRP either for that laptop either this is a fair comparison.
That Air will be great for students etc.
You are right about the display its not as good as OLED and the Air won't get one till 2027.
In saying that, it will be a great laptop and great specs for that price too. Please post your review/benchmarks when you tested it.
Yep, you will see a never see sale on Apple.com for any Apple product.I agree with you about Apple and being choosy, just pointing out you really can’t get past this — Apple absolutely shakes people down either way and the same sale stuff will apply for QC down the line, or even without it they still win on value I think.
They totally misplaced their hand with how they implemented it and how they communicated it to consumers...Microsoft is doing real damage to the brand of Copilot+PC.
HOW IS THAT ACTUALLY POSSIBLE.+ $35 for another 16GB of LPDDR5X and + $38 to double storage to 1TB, at a starting price of $1211 with a great OLED display.
I have still not forgiven them for disabling Core Boost on all but the top two SKUs (X1E-84-100, X1E-80-100).I know people gigabrained about this, but it’s really more like the top X Elite chips have a premium over Phoenix. And even then the 3.4GHz models are easily preferable to an M2/3 keeping RAM and storage in mind.
The 2024 XPSes are terrible laptops. The XPS 13 might be palatable, but not the XPS14/16, especially for their asking prices.Heck, even the 4/4.2GHz X Elite laptops would still be cheaper. The Dell XPS with a new tandem OLED display and 16/512 config is $1499 at Best Buy — on Dell’s website when they have options I doubt it’ll be but another $200-300 for 32/1TB.
You should never buy Macbooks at RRP. Apple authorised resellers have them on sale all the time like B&H and Best Buy.
There's a M3 Air 13" 16GB RAM model with 256GB SSD for $1149. Considering you didn't pay RRP either for that laptop either this is a fair comparison.
That Air will be great for students etc.
You are right about the display its not as good as OLED and the Air won't get one till 2027.
In saying that, it will be a great laptop and great specs for that price too. Please post your review/benchmarks when you tested it.
HOW IS THAT ACTUALLY POSSIBLE.
I am pretty sure 16 GB LPDDR5X on it's own, costs like $35.
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Definitely you get more ram and storage with the Lenovo. I was more referring to that stock MacBook Air pricing offering 8/256 at $1099. Apple charges $200 to go 16GB/256GB, so the price is $1299.I don't really see how you think that is a fair comparison? It's 25% of the storage and half the ram and an inferior display with 4 fewer cores. Although the cores clock higher I admit. (to the sku in the lenevo at least)
I don't think so. I checked some other Lenovo Yoga laptops, and they also have low upcharge for RAM/Storage.I actually think it may be a mistake. Hopefully not, we shall see.
Microsoft's possible solution would be to force Bitlocker encryption on all laptops.Something needs to be done by next week.