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coercitiv

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I think it’s been rushed and I totally blame MS.
I watched the Dave2D video, he danced around the software until the end, when he mentioned the Copilot+PC experience is not ready and not available.

In fairness I think the same will happen to Strix Point, consumers this year will pay good money for AI hardware they'll barely get to use in the near future.
 

adroc_thurston

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The death of x86 has been greatly exaggerated.
somebody please run unpatched New Vegas on sex elite, I wanna get crashes per second metrics.
for AI hardware they'll barely get to use in the near future.
GEMM blobs aren't useful for much per se.
Like, the current hypebeast cycle is all about trillion zillion sized models and not something tiny and dumb.
 
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Nothingness

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The death of x86 has been greatly exaggerated.
Indeed. But it remains to be seen how x86 market share will evolve in the coming years. I'm not sure WoA will change the market, at least not immediately, and perhaps never. But the change in the hyperscaler datacenters has started.
 
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poke01

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Ok, but where's the jaw-dropping experience? It was hyped to the moon, where's the awe?

Why should I buy X Elite over the upcoming Strix Point for example? I'm not kidding, I'm actually looking at these products as a prospective buyer.
When the M1 launched in 2020 you had clear reasons to buy it over Intel and AMD. The performance, efficiency and battery life were all there and the competition didn’t compare. It was crazy fast for a thin notebook that was fanless and you got the 16GB RAM config it would still be usable for years.

I don’t think we will ever see that again. Qualcomm should been careful with the hype. Hopefully they show off their v2 this year.
 
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controlflow

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Sorry but this is looking pretty underwhelming. Really no incentive as a customer to switch ISA's for very little pay off. It isn't like these things are a bargain either.

Between LNL and Strix, Qualcomm will have a very rough time showing that going ARM will magically lead to amazing PPA relative to x86.
 

FlameTail

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Meanwhile people want to run PC games on Snapdragon mobile chips...


 
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poke01

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Meanwhile people want to run PC games on Snapdragon mobile chips...


Qualcomm and Google have zero incentive to do so. Valve would need to work with Qualcomm.

It’s a whole mess, just go buy a steam Deck
 

branch_suggestion

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Even assuming some sort of emulation hit, this goes to show that a mobile GPU clocked to hell and back falls apart when running an 8 year old DX12 benchmark.

Starting to think Charlie was on to something.
 

DrMrLordX

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Looks like there's a golden opportunity for some indie devs to write some native WARM games, assuming these X Elite systems sell in non-zero quantity.
 
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poke01

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Gaming is just a no-go on this thing, you'll either crash or stutter.
Or both.
Can’t believe I’m saying this but more games run on an ARM Mac than this an X Elite laptop. Like Rift Apart, some of the latest Assassin Creed games etc
 

adroc_thurston

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Can’t believe I’m saying this but more games run on an ARM Mac than this an X Elite laptop. Like Rift Apart, some of the latest Assassin Creed games etc
Well Apple put some effort (cash upfront) for ISVs to deposit stuff on Mac.
Qualcomm would have to e-beg gabeN for adding aa64 distribution to Steam which, good luck lol.
Kuo is expecting 2 million sold to be sold.
Out of ~265m units PC TAM?
hilarious
 
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uzzi38

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NVIDIA has the cash to get ARM ports going next year at least.
Frankly I don't think ARM is the problem with the gaming results here. Even if the games are emulated, only performance should be impacted. Games outright crashing or experiencing severe stuttering like I've seen from some reviews sounds more like driver issues.
 

Thibsie

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-10% performance hit in emulation.
Most x86 apps work fine in emulation.
Silent, nearly no fan noise.
Battery is great.
Price and value is great.
It is nice but nowhere near WAOUW.
And some apps won't work which is unacceptable and x86 Games are unacceptable too.
IMO of course.
 
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