So... Qualcomm is in a very bad position right now.
They were hyping it upto be an M1 moment, but it has fallen far short of that.
Their CPU has failed to reach their power/performance targets.
Their GPU is lacking in featurset and is complemented by subpar drivers.
Their NPU is lacking in featureset and programmable software cannot be run on it.
In short, their IP stack is weak and has many problems. They'll have to invest significantly and work hard to fix everything. Will they move forward with the Quest for the PC market, or will they throw the towel?
Sir, this is Qualcomm threadSo... uh... when are the strix laptops available? Asking for a friend...
So to achieve the full performance of the X Elite chip in CB2024, we need to run it in a performance mode with fans blasting?
How then, is Apple able to get the max performance from an Mx chip in a passively cooled (~10W TDP) Macbook Air?
The actively cooled Macbook Pro 14" with M3, and the passively cooled Macbook Air 13" have pretty much identical performance in CB2024 IIRC.
The thing is, M3 consumes like 22W at max all core load, but the MBA chassis can only dissipate 10W....
CB can return a score in the 10-minute test even if the CPU is unable to finish the scene within that time.(serious question, I have never run CB so I have no clue)
Good points. Reviewers should do such a deep dive comparison of the M3 Macbook Air and say... the Surface Laptop 7. So far, all the comparisons I have seen are against other Windows laptops.How long does it take the M3 to run that benchmark? (serious question, I have never run CB so I have no clue)
One can claim "the MBA chassis can only dissipate 10W" but it can obviously dissipate more than that at least for a while, based on how effectively heat is conducted from the CPU to the rest of chassis, and the starting temperature of the chassis. If you knew the numbers it would be possible to calculate how long a CPU radiating x watts can continue to do so until the capacity of the chassis to absorb heat is reached. At that point the CPU would only be able to radiate y watts, i.e. whatever the number of watts is that can be effectively conducted off the CPU to the chassis, and the chassis is able to radiate to its surroundings (which is influenced by room temperature, amount of air movement in the room, the material the chassis is sitting on, etc.)
In short, if I tested an M3 MBA, sitting on a metal surface in a room air conditioned to 70F with an air register blowing down on it, running CB2024 immediately after turning it on after it had been off overnight, and you tested on sitting on a wood surface in a room at 78F with no air movement running CB2024 after you've been using it for browsing for an hour, we're likely to get different results.
poor sods, granted you need to be a very special kid to buy surface to begin with.In contrast to most other places, the people at r/Surface are raving about how good Snapdragon X Elite is.
This is amusing, trust me: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/live/copilot-pc-launch-2024So I haven't been following the SDX Elite much, but trying to look for reviews and benchmark data there isn't much.
But have you seen Strix?AMD and Qualcomm utterly failed to live up to what the hype machine was claiming.
strix is good but not that good. Single core is ehh. GPU is good but that’s just AMD fixing RDNA3 fumbles.But have you seen Strix?
The best part is that it's a live blogThis is amusing, trust me
He can be safely ignored.one person out here claiming X Elite is just a "test platform" lol!
But have you seen Strix?
But have you seen it?Single core is ehh.
hopefullyDoes it provide +32% iso-clock specint? If not, I'm gonna go with "yeah, the hype was too much."
If hype makes a product bad then there is no hope. Even Arrow Lake U has hype beasts now.Does it provide +32% iso-clock specint? If not, I'm gonna go with "yeah, the hype was too much."
But have you seen it?
hopefully
Is this a new form of cope?See how bad Intel's beta silicon made x86 look in comparison?
yes. I don’t need another hype cycle.But have you seen it?
isn’t AMD still 2 minutes slower? That’s still bad for non-beta x86 silicon. If AMD cheaps out on cache that’s too bad.Hawk point is much better and Strix point should be competitive though not holding my breath. Handbrake loves cache which the SD X has more of
IWe don’t need another hype cycle.
isn’t AMD still 2 minutes slower? That’s still bad for non-beta x86 silicon. If AMD cheaps out on cache that’s too bad.
This review is way more in depth than I was expecting, even for Cary. Honestly a great review. Goes into proper depth on both the efficiency and performance modes, and compares all devices at the same total system power (with the display disabled to counteract the hungry OLED panel).Another one: