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The Lenovo Yoga and the Asus Vivobook 15 especially are actually pretty great.Idk about Acer. My impression is that their products are generally lower quality and less reliable.
The Lenovo Yoga on the other hand, is a premium and established line.
didn’t make any sense for this. They have a huge L2. AMD and Intel have a need for that with a larger L1 that QC wouldn’t with this setup imoReduced latency.
Since we're doing wild guessing, here's something that matches 2.8 MB: 2x128 KB L1 + 2×16 KB L0. Or 32 KB uop cache. Anyway 2.8 MB = 10x288 KB, not 10x280 KB.
I still have my doubts about that 2.8 MB figure.
L0 caches are a waste of energy.I think this is plausible, given Qualcomm's (though not Nuvia's) history of doing L0 caches on Krait, Kryo, and Falkor.
Could also be 192+96 L1. Not terribly far off from Apple's 192+128.
EDIT: Just saw the posts above. I guess I made a good guess, lol.
L0 caches are a waste of energy.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but would a small (say 4K or even 16K) albeit fast L0 cache really make a difference to help keep the EUs of a big core such as Apple M or X Elite fed? My guess is that, given its small size, the infrequent hit does not compensate for the penalty of misses.Hmm, why? I've at least seen simulations where a 4K+4K direct-mapped or 2-way 1-cyc-load-to-use L0, with a larger L1 in the 5 cyc range, comes out looking pretty good. (Heck, even Itanium2's tradeoff - 16+16 4-way L1 @ 1 cyc, 256K+1M L2 @ 5-7 cyc - isn't terribly far off from being an L0+L1, though Intel never called them that.)
It's not that they intentionally made it, it's just that binning is hard.There wouldn't be headlines like this if Qualcomm had not to made the X1E-78-100 without Core Boost.
Really, you don't think most of these could go over 3.4GHz?You really should stop taking Intel/AMD style of speedbinning for granted.
Not at acceptable power at least.Really, you don't think most of these could go over 3.4GHz?
That's the SKU they actually sell at large lmao.But I guess it serves as a waste basket anyway
Apple is shipping 4.5 GHz in an iPadAgain, the way x86 boys bin their CPUs is truly magical.
Shipping what used to be strictly "IBM z/stuff clocks" in laptops is cuckoo ba
Chefe that's N3e.Apple is shipping 4.5 GHz in an iPad
Those curves are overly optimistic as is.If you look at Qualcomm's official curve, the power increases by 50% when going from 3.8 -> 4.2 GHz
I don’t think anyone ever claimed Apple invented anything. They are a premium device maker, however, and they should be more on the ball with this stuff.Apple never claimed to invent Tandem OLED. Don’t people know by know who invents new display tech?
NPUs will be used for local tasks like video effects, photo and sound editing, etc. These things aren’t doing anything remotely.No.
It doesn't make sense. Running distributed AI workloads on CPU/GPU/NPU is like gaming with SLI. And besides the GPU consumes a ton of power, so it's not efficient run it that way.
Nice, natively, 1T performance is right up there with my 7950X.
Yep, high clocks increase power consumption. I really do question how they are going to compete with Zen 5 considering they are already behind Zen 4 in terms of performance.If you look at Qualcomm's official curve, the power increases by 50% when going from 3.8 -> 4.2 GHz [~9W -> ~14W]
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Tandem OLED is the industry name. Apple is branding it as "Ultra Retina XDR".I don’t think anyone ever claimed Apple invented anything. They are a premium device maker, however, and they should be more on the ball with this stuff.
Haha. That's not even the fastest X Elite version. The X1E-78-100 maxes out at 3.4 GHz. The X1E-80-100 goes to 3.8 GHz, and the X1E-84-100 to 4.2 GHz.Nice, natively, 1T performance is right up there with my 7950X.
Don't act so smug. QC is making big mistakes. You don't conquer a market with premium devices. You do so with a broad range of price points from $300 to $999. More than that is for professionals or gamers. Microsoft/QC are dumb to think that people will max out their credit cards to afford AI stuff. The average person does not have to lie so much like salespeople/sales engineers/marketing folks/scummy businessmen that they need to keep a database of their lies in their head to avoid their lies getting caught so there isn't enough space in their heads for the mundane stuff like remembering appointments or retaining important details from their emails that they read already. Only these people have a use case for Microsoft Recall at a $1000+ price point. Or maybe imposters who will try to act like executives who know what they are doing.Haha.
I think CPU-Z is a bit partial to Intel. I'm getting 840 with my 12700K @ 5.3 GHz on air, with DDR5-6000 CL28. Maybe you should investigate tuning your RAM a bit?My 7950X scores 750 for ST
Dual layer actually.Tandem OLED is the industry name
well there's Purva but it's a meme.You don't conquer a market with premium devices. You do so with a broad range of price points from $300 to $999.
Dual layer actually.
well there's Purva but it's a meme.
Because it's a meme.What is with pro-AMD folks from saying "lol it's a meme" about literally everything non-AMD?
Some parts are a meme.It's annoying and does not contribute to discourse.