Strix Halo wasn't announced at Computex because it is likely going to be announced at CES 2025.
There certainly won't be any Zen6 SKU announced until Q4 '25 at minimum.
Strix Halo wasn't announced at Computex because it is likely going to be announced at CES 2025.
As with new CPU and GPU µArch benches you will find that Prism's supposed -15% is just an average of a dataset (or worse, the best result by a significant margin).That's why Microsoft is claiming that their new Prism emulation layer is as good as Rosetta2. I have heard that the emulation penalty is only like -15% performance.
ARM?
They achieved 17% IPC increase in one year (Cortex X4 -> Cortex X925). I expect Oryon V2 will also bring substantial IPC improvements.
Once the X core has the op fusion in A725 it should definitely be significantly more efficient, though as yet the jury is out on on X925's efficiency until we get first silicon.It could be the most power sipping high performance CPU at the moment
Probably just because it is the first gen product with a less synchronised SoC design team vs the SD8.So from what we know far, this is how X Elite's IP relates to mobile Snapdragon;
GPU based on 8G2's.
NPU based on 8G3's.
CPU based on 8G4's.
Pretty funny
Looks like there's a boost frequency bug with early production Samsung Snapdragon laptops. I'm sure we're all shocked to learn that it's a total dog when locked at 2.5 ghz!
Snapdragon X Elite in the wild is allegedly slower than iPhone 12 — first benchmarks of Samsung Book4 Edge disappoint
Wait for firmware updates before condemnationwww.tomshardware.com
This seems pointless since we know nothing about this except that it was locked at 2.5Ghz. Obviously it would be slow at that speed.
Probably a bug or perhaps he set the laptop to some sort of energy saver mode. I wouldn't read much into it.
Another sign of firmware/BIOS issues? Another perplexing single thread hit.View attachment 101208
We got some early benchmaks at 65 watts and 28 watts. Its seems ST decreases a lot when its set to 28 watts. This is lower than base M2 in CB 2024!
@SpudLobby The good thing about X Elite being on standard N4 (not N4P), is that it's going to set up the X2 Elite for a huge node jump (N4->N3P).I hope Oryon V2 also brings a substantial power reduction;
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If you take a measuring ruler to this graph of Oryon V1, you can see that the power consumption increased by roughly 50% (9W->14W) for that last 10% of frequency (3.8 GHz -> 4.2 GHz).
So the Oryon architects have an easy opportunity to cut the power consumption by 1/3rd, if they reduce the frequency by 10%.
4.2 GHz = 100% power
3.8 GHz = 66.66% power
Now, if we say Oryon V1 was ported to N3P (the node Oryon V2 will presumably use), then we get a 20% power reduction.
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4.2 GHz - Oryon V1 - N4P = 100% power
3.8 GHz - Oryon V1 - N4P = 66% power
3.8 GHz - Oryon V1 - N3P = 53% power
So by reducing the frequency by 10%, and going from N4P -> N3P, the power consumption is almost halved!
Now, this gives them a solid foundation to significantly increase IPC in Oryon V2, without blowing up the power consumption.
Yep, there should be a substantial power savings or rather also a substantial clock gain without hurting power much just from electric characteristics of the transistors alone.@SpudLobby The good thing about X Elite being on standard N4 (not N4P), is that it's going to set up the X2 Elite for a huge node jump (N4->N3P).
I wouldn't put much stock in that. Like, 8 Gen 5 is a while off for one, but for two, that's a ridiculous gain for a phone part, and even on N3P - or N2, I don't expect to see that kind of frequency.We already have an ominous Oryon V2 rumour.
Snapdragon 8 Gen 5 reportedly hits 5 GHz.
That doesn’t actually mean ST is consuming that much power for one thing. It just means for that tDP (which includes MT and mixed workloads) they decided to lower clocks for the dual-boost to fit within that constraint.View attachment 101208
We got some early benchmaks at 65 watts and 28 watts. Its seems ST decreases a lot when its set to 28 watts. This is lower than base M2 in CB 2024!
Yeah, it would be pretty suspect if the X Elite is on standard N4, when N4P is available.Qualcomm doesn’t explicitly say N4P for the 8 Gen 3 either, but it’s widely reported it is N4P, so if the source is “well Qualcomm said N4” my answer is lol.