It’s suggests exactly that. Nobody is buying these. Gamers won’t, business won’t and certainly not students as exam software won’t work on these.Not sure if that suggests poor sales since that laptop is only a few weeks old....
It looks like the entire Book4 line is discounted, so I would not take that as evidence of poor sales of X Elite (not that there are any rumors it is selling well, much on the contrary)Just FYI, Samsung is already having a very aggressive sale on their models. A whopping $300 off, now $999 for 16GB/512/X1E-80 model.
Not sure if that suggests poor sales since that laptop is only a few weeks old....
Can't believe people are complaining about 16 GB RAM on $1000 dollar laptops.1000 dollars for a laptop with 16GB of ram and an unproved OS (WoA) seems like a lot (for me).
Qualcomm should have started with budget 500-700 dollar laptops. Although with how poorly their laptops are selling, we may get 500 dollar X1P/X1E laptops by the end of 2025.
Are we living in different worlds or what. What OEM was selling 8GB windows laptops for 1000 dollars? 99% of them had 16GB and higherLast year, OEMs were still selling $1000+ laptops with 8 GB RAM.
That's one of bazillion offerings, not even closely representing. 😆Earlt this year, Dell had a 2024 XPS 13 Meteor Lake 'AI PC' laptop with 8GB RAM. That thing is no longer available on the Dell USA website. Don't know about other regions.
Your work laptop Did we reach the point where games really need more than 16 GB?16GB was okay ten years ago but not today. It wouldn't be enough for me. My current work laptop has 32GB and anything less is no go.
For gaming anything below 32GB doesn't make sense. If I'd build a new system it would have 64GB. For laptops <=16GB only makes sense for light use. WSL2 and bunch of other stuff open I can easily exceed 16GB. Also iGPU needs a slice.Your work laptop Did we reach the point where games really need more than 16 GB?
Anyway I agree, I wouldn't go lower than 32GB for my desktop PC, and more likely 64GB. I've had 16GB since 2013. But I use it for more than gaming.
Okay, the news outlets are picking it up now:
Qualcomm hires former AMD ray tracing expert for its GPU team
Hopefully, the addition will help the Adreno GPU play nicer with more demanding games.www.tomshardware.com
They might have to. The two main selling points for Snapdragon are about to go down.Next gen Copilot PCs could raise the minimum bar to 32 GB?
In general, MS wants every user of Windows to have to pay some sort of "rent" for having it. If they can make MS Copilot into an essential feature for most users, their last customers that don't pay "rent" via an OS license subscription will finally be forced to pay them "rent" and help them secure a greater revenue stream going forward.Are copilot PCs meant to be aimed at only wealthy people who are likely to be paying for subscriptions?
There are early signs of traction. A fifth of computers sold during launch week were AI PCs, according to data provided by market researcher Circana. Tech-savvy consumers like content creators have been quicker to adopt the new machines, while the general public is likely still a bit “confused,” said Mike Crosby, executive director at Circana.
Initial data from Circana’s service highlights several trends in AI PC adoption. In 2024, just eight percent of notebook units purchased qualify as AI-equipped PCs, with GPUs being the primary qualifier. Among these, only two percent of these products include an NPU with a performance of 40 TOPS or above, which is required by Windows to use its AI-powered CoPilot+ features. Business adoption of AI PCs is outpacing consumer adoption, driven by a clearer understanding of specific use cases within various functions and sector verticals. Consumers, particularly content creators, are beginning to recognize the value proposition and use cases of AI PCs.
I was right.
Qualcomm spends millions on marketing as it is found better battery life, not AI features, is driving Copilot+ PC sales
On-device AI features aren't that useful for consumers yet, but long battery life is.www.tomshardware.com
Battery life is the selling feature. Not AI.
Easy to say now.tjay AI BS is out in the wild.I was right.
Qualcomm spends millions on marketing as it is found better battery life, not AI features, is driving Copilot+ PC sales
On-device AI features aren't that useful for consumers yet, but long battery life is.www.tomshardware.com
Battery life is the selling feature. Not AI.
The question is: who uses WSL? Not the average Joe. Aside from gamers, engineers/developers and other professionals, there is very little need for anything above 16GB. They are not running CAD tools, don't have many virtual machines spinning simultaneously, and surely are not running complex simulations on their machines.For laptops <=16GB only makes sense for light use. WSL2 and bunch of other stuff open I can easily exceed 16GB. Also iGPU needs a slice.
They have no AI feature to sell.I was right.
Qualcomm spends millions on marketing as it is found better battery life, not AI features, is driving Copilot+ PC sales
On-device AI features aren't that useful for consumers yet, but long battery life is.www.tomshardware.com
Battery life is the selling feature. Not AI.