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POWER4

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No one has.
This whole ML boom is dumb.
I agree. Though I was expecting at least Recall to be a launch feature for Copilot+ PCs.

Six months ago, Microsoft was hyping the "Windows AI". Internally, features were being kept under ten levels of NDA, and other employees were being led to believe it would put them years ahead of macOS. At some point, it was said to have offline Copilot. They probably caught Qualcomm in the hype too.

Given the number of openbox returns, I don't think it's selling all that well.
Do you have an idea of percentage?

If most laptops were like the Lenovo I've tested, I would not find it unbelievable. It looks like the Surface Laptop is the only competitive Copilot+ PC.
 
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adroc_thurston

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Six months ago, Microsoft was hyping the "Windows AI"
MS would hype literally anything that saves the Windows BU from complete total stagnation.
Do you have an idea of percentage?
Hard to grasp, we'll have to wait until esteemed analysts™ do a q3 PC TAM report.
It looks like the Surface Laptop is the only competitive Copilot+ PC.
It's fine, but it's a macbook expensive facebook machine while also being inferior to said macbooks at facebook machining.
Better than the previous Surface lineup but that's not a high bar to clear.
 

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I hope Geekerwan tests the Snapdragon X Elite using Liquid Nitrogen, like they did for the M4 iPad.

It seems every single laptop that has been released so far cannot really sustain the peak clockspeeds, within their thermal/power limitations.
 

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Wait, so Mali is leading against Adreno
Aah wait for the next gen.

Immortalis/Mali G925 (2024 IP) that the next gen Dimensity 9400 will use is a minor upgrade over the 2023 IP Immortalis G920 featured in Dimensity 9300.

Meanwhile Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 will debut the new Adreno 800 series architecture, whixh brings an armada of improvements.

This might end up being proven woefully wrong, but I'll say it anyway:

Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 will clobber tbe Dimensity 9400 in terms of GPU performance.
ASi on an inferior fab node????
Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 = N4P
Dimensity 9300 = N4P (or N4X??)
A17 Pro = N3B
 

Doug S

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I hope Geekerwan tests the Snapdragon X Elite using Liquid Nitrogen, like they did for the M4 iPad.

It seems every single laptop that has been released so far cannot really sustain the peak clockspeeds, within their thermal/power limitations.

I think he was just using the LN2 on a lark, trying to see if it could hit 4000 GB6. Kind of the equivalent of reviews that see how much a CPU will overclock, but since you can't overclock an iPad...
 
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It seems every single laptop that has been released so far cannot really sustain the peak clockspeeds, within their thermal/power lilimitations.
I guess the Qualcomm dev kit would be the best platform to check sustained clock speeds. Alas I've not seen any review of that device.
 

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Not directly related but still ARM, missed this back in May, seems like I should pay more attention to their various company blogs.....

 

soresu

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Not sure if this is an attempt to copy UE5's Nanite or a different solution entirely that plays well to mobile GPUs specifically.
 

soresu

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Reading a bit further in it definitely sounds like something Switch 2 devs will be all over given the memory needs reduction.

With traditional LOD methodology, the example package size is 1.8 GB, and now it only takes 557 MB on disk with NanoMesh. This means 70 percent smaller and 70 percent faster for downloading. If we look at the size of pure mesh data, NanoMesh only uses roughly 16 percent of the total storage to achieve the same visual quality.
 
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FlameTail

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Not directly related but still ARM, missed this back in May, seems like I should pay more attention to their various company blogs.....

ARM thread exists
 

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It seems that this tech will become more important and has a solid use case. Most phones are configured in the 1080p range natively, and the strategies that work well for 1440 and 4k don't necessarily give great results at lower resolutions as the base rendering resolution doesn't provide sufficient information for a decent product image. I wonder if there will be a move to get this tech moved to WoA for the Qualcomm laptops...
 

FlameTail

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It seems that this tech will become more important and has a solid use case. Most phones are configured in the 1080p range natively, and the strategies that work well for 1440 and 4k don't necessarily give great results at lower resolutions as the base rendering resolution doesn't provide sufficient information for a decent product image. I wonder if there will be a move to get this tech moved to WoA for the Qualcomm laptops...
Qualcomm has their own one in the kitchen:


Edit: Oops, that's for Frame Generation, not Frame Upscaling.
 

soresu

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Qualcomm has to go though the same process as Nvidia did back in the day to get competitive in modern compute heavy gaming workloads
Oooof, that's UE5 down for the count.

Their Nanite 'infinite geometry' system is very compute heavy.
 

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Current RDNA 3 and Ada feature parity is what Qualcomm needs aim for for X Elite 2 compute wise.
 
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