Quantum Levitation

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i don't think that's the same phenomena seen since the 80's. supercooled superconductor levitation appears similar, but i've never seen the ability to lock an object in 1,2 or 3 dimensions. the old trick is just floating on a magnetic field, this is at least 1 step further than that.
 
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I almost refuse to believe that's real. It's insane, the levitation I can take, its the moving around and locking it in place while moving in a plane that I can't believe.
 

Kadarin

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I almost refuse to believe that's real. It's insane, the levitation I can take, its the moving around and locking it in place while moving in a plane that I can't believe.

It is trippy though. If they're faking it somehow, I wonder how.
 

Pheran

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Holy crap that is wild! I've seen magnetic levitation but never the ability to flip the whole thing upside down like that.

Better link with article: Quantum Levitation
 
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Matthiasa

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Another forum I was on had this linked to within the past week or so.
Link was to a youtube video though.


But yeah quite impressive.
 

Leros

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I wonder if that thing had some sort of electronics to adjust the magnetic field for each situation.
 

Born2bwire

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i don't think that's the same phenomena seen since the 80's. supercooled superconductor levitation appears similar, but i've never seen the ability to lock an object in 1,2 or 3 dimensions. the old trick is just floating on a magnetic field, this is at least 1 step further than that.

It may still be the same aspect. My recollection is that the levitation is due to the flux quantization that occurs in ringed superconductors. With a superconducting ring, the amount of magnetic flux through the ring is quantized and can only have discrete values. In addition, the Meissner effect allows for the fact that if we induce a magnetic flux through the ring and then make the ring superconducting that the ring will maintain currents to keep the magnetic flux going even when we remove the original source. So the Meissner effect and flux quantization allows us to induce a superconductor to produce and maintain a magnetic field that can allow for levitation. My guess is that this "locking in" of the position of the superconductor may be something similar to the flux quantization that allows the superconductor to maintain currents to maintain its state. It's important to note that with the magnetic track and other situations, there is an axial symmetry that was maintained. This allows the superconductor to traverse the track while remaining, for all intents and purposes, in the same state.

Probably of more interest in terms of progress is that we now have sufficient high temperature superconductors that he can use simple liquid nitrogen to achieve superconducting and be able to grasp and manipulate the metal for a period of time without it falling out of the superconducting state.

I wonder if that thing had some sort of electronics to adjust the magnetic field for each situation.

It shouldn't need to. The physics of the problem states that the quantum states of the superconducting current would react in response to how he positioned the superconductor with respect to the magnetic field. What I find interesting is that normally when we talk about levitating a superconductor, the textbook example requires us to start from a non-superconducting state with an applied magnetic field and then cooling the material down to superconducting to lock in the magnetic flux. Instead, he has already cooled the material down to superconducting and is continually readjusting the locked states. But, as I said above, I would imagine that the physics remains the same.
 
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halik

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Can someone explain how it works upside down? If the superconductor changes surface currents to expel the magnetic field, how does it still cancel out the gravitational pull?
 
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It may still be the same aspect. My recollection is that the levitation is due to the flux quantization that occurs in ringed superconductors. With a superconducting ring, the amount of magnetic flux through the ring is quantized and can only have discrete values. In addition, the Meissner effect allows for the fact that if we induce a magnetic flux through the ring and then make the ring superconducting that the ring will maintain currents to keep the magnetic flux going even when we remove the original source. So the Meissner effect and flux quantization allows us to induce a superconductor to produce and maintain a magnetic field that can allow for levitation. My guess is that this "locking in" of the position of the superconductor may be something similar to the flux quantization that allows the superconductor to maintain currents to maintain its state. It's important to note that with the magnetic track and other situations, there is an axial symmetry that was maintained. This allows the superconductor to traverse the track while remaining, for all intents and purposes, in the same state.

Probably of more interest in terms of progress is that we now have sufficient high temperature superconductors that he can use simple liquid nitrogen to achieve superconducting and be able to grasp and manipulate the metal for a period of time without it falling out of the superconducting state.



It shouldn't need to. The physics of the problem states that the quantum states of the superconducting current would react in response to how he positioned the superconductor with respect to the magnetic field. What I find interesting is that normally when we talk about levitating a superconductor, the textbook example requires us to start from a non-superconducting state with an applied magnetic field and then cooling the material down to superconducting to lock in the magnetic flux. Instead, he has already cooled the material down to superconducting and is continually readjusting the locked states. But, as I said above, I would imagine that the physics remains the same.

That reminds me again of the Stern Gerlach experiment.
 
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Can someone explain how it works upside down? If the superconductor changes surface currents to expel the magnetic field, how does it still cancel out the gravitational pull?

What you need here is to blow superfine iron powder between the ring and the track when doing such an experiment. Then with a high speed camera, you can record the patterns that will arise and analyze later. The iron particles will follow the magnetic field lines. This will give you an idea how to view the events.
 

Aharami

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at first I was like "yea yea, I've seen this before." But when he flipped it upside down, I was like "woah"
 
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