Quantum or Maxtor?? (update on IBM)

Techno

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I just got off the phone w/ IBM hard drive support and they are f*cking me out of replacing 2 three month old hard drives.

So....they are losing my business for SURE. And told the Techsupport guy and his supervisor to go f*ck themselves. Who else makes a better hard drive??

Thank you
Techno
 

dcdomain

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I'm not sure about better, but Maxtor should be on par. They are cheaper too. I swear by them...

Quantum, I've had problems with in the past... haven't tried the current offerings because there has been no reason for me to not stick with Maxtor.
 

Czar

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I have had 3 Quantums and 3 Maxtors, no problems at all, but my friend has had trouble with Quantums. Maxtors can handle 200g presure
 

TravisBickle

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shouldn't you be contacting the vendor if the drives are 3 months old? do you know your legal rights on this issue? if the drives weren't supplied inside an oem pc IBM must help you.
Maxtor doesn't give you this kind of aggro
 

Modus

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The Quantum LM Plus is second only to the IBM 75GXP in terms of performance and just ahead of the Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 45. Of these, the Maxtor is the quietest, even with Acoustic Management turned off for maximum performance. The Quantum is the loudest by far.

The Quantum and the Maxtor appear to be priced almost identically these days, most likely owing to their recent merger agreement. If you get a Quantum, make damned sure you're getting the LM plus (which is based on SCSI technology) as opposed to the newer AS Plus, which isn't as fast.

Modus
 

Modus

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Oh yeah, and why in the world won't they let you RMA the drives?

Modus
 

StanG

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I have almost exclusively used Maxtors, and never had any problems...For what it's worth...
 

Techno

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I'll try and call tomorrow in hopes that i get someone else and try with them. This guy and his supervisor just kept saying that unless it failed from a flaw at the plant they won't exchange it.. they then said "its like if it gets thrown in a pond we can't warrenty it"... i said it didn't fall in a pond it started f*cking up from being in RAID-0. then said they are not responsible for RAID-0.

The hard drives started losing data and then started failing

they just kept trying to get out of taking my stuff back...

I even told him i have returned MANY IBM hard drives back with out a problem and he dared me to tell him a time when other IBM drives have failed.

So i'll just try and call up IBM tomorrow and hope they don't try to screw around w/ me like these people did... This person i talked to started re wording things that i said to make me think i was lying...

Tomorrow will probably be another fight if they look in the computer and the guy from today wrote something completely WRONG in the books....
 

TravisBickle

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this is very bad news. it looks like IBM has an internal policy of being as obstructive as possible to returns (they arrogantly say 90% of errors are not due to the physical drive itself).
please let us know how you get on so we know which drives to recommend (or not) to people in future!

(I am on the lookout for a hard drive too and I think it's either IBM or Maxtor for me. they say fujitsu is quiet but I have a fujitsu and don't think much of it)
 

Doomguy

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Return a drive with ibm is easy. I just called them and they told me a few things to try then they just let me RMA it. They're only supposed to let you rma a drive after 30 days because you're supposed to return it to the reseller but they let me anyway.
 

Topochicho

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I find it is often best to kep it as simple as possible when trying to RMA a drive. Tell them you want to RMA the drive, when they ask whats wrong with it you give them basic symptoms, like it clicks alot and won't boot or won't spin up... etc.
Basically be stupid and answer the questions as minimally as possible, never elaborate. Never tell them they were RAID or anything fancy, they were just in the computer as normal drives. If they give you any crap, ask them if they are refusing to honor thier warranty. When they try to blame it on you in any way or any other crap, just say, the drive is has failed and it is within the warranty period, are you refusing the warranty? This is your mantra, thay HAVE to honor their warranty as long as they cannot prove you caused the failure. That is the law.

Remember you don't have to give them any info on how the drive was used, it is up to them to prove you misused it. Do not give them any reason to deny you before they even recieve the drive.

I have used both Maxtor and Quantum. I like them both. I have had failures from every drive brand manufactured, they all have duds. My most resent failure was a Maxtor, and I would by from them again, and probably the same model.

PS Maxtor has a lovely online RMA program online, I got the # online then sent the drive and had a replacement within 7 working days. They do NOT repair your drive, they send you a refurb(but then doesn't everybody). Haven't rma'd a Quantum in about a year, so can't tell you how they deal with it these days.
 

Noriaki

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The Quantum Plus LM is an awesome drive, shares it's actuator with it's SCSI brethren.....Seek times that are actually better than advertised!

But the LM is VERY loud. The Plus AS was a dissapointment....it's designed from the ground up for IDE...and as such sucks

I'd take the Plus LM if you don't mind a loud hard drive, the Maxtor Diamond Max Plus 45 if you want it quieter.
 

Noriaki

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The Quantum Plus LM is an awesome drive, shares it's actuator with it's SCSI brethren.....Seek times that are actually better than advertised!

But the LM is VERY loud. The Plus AS was a dissapointment....it's designed from the ground up for IDE...and as such sucks

I'd take the Plus LM if you don't mind a loud hard drive, the Maxtor Diamond Max Plus 45 if you want it quieter.
 

KarsinTheHutt

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Have a Maxtor 40 GB and am very pleased with its performance. It's extremely quiet under windows9x, and makes only a moderate amount of noise in Windows 2000
 

thorin

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"Maxtors can handle 200g presure"

Maybe you just used the wrong notation or something but who cares if a HD can withstand 200grams pressure? Big deal, I'm sure most pieces of paper can withstand 200g preasure. (suspend a piece of paper by the sides and weigh it down with 200g of something I doubt it will break).

Thorin

 

GTaudiophile

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Uhhh, didn't you all know that Maxtor bought Quantum several months ago? They are now one in the same.

Go to www.maxtor.com and click on News for the October 4, 2000 article.
 

novice

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Another vote for Maxtor. I have to say that Western Digital has a very good RMA system, unfortunately I have had several opportunities to use it. :frown:
I have been thinking about trying IBM, but I have heard several stories about difficulties with RMA, particularly with the OEM drives. Think I will just stay with Maxtor. My 10 gig Maxtor is almost a year old and it has been great. Not quite as quiet as it used to be, but running fast and no problems. Chuck
 

Dantzig

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I've always used Maxtor drives (except for one WD that I bought 3-4 years ago) and never had any problems. Maxtor drives are cheap and fast
 

Vegito

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Exactly, the two agreed to merge... they're both okay.. i mean who has a 100% bulletproof hdds... it's all by how your ups guy ship it...
 
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