Quelle Surprise!

[Fanatical Meat]

Got link to that evidence?



Clinton had made threats, verbal and physical to quite a few countries, and had she got in quite a few European countries were worries that she was going to start WW3.

Trump is an idiot, he's only really harmful to America.

I've got implied evidence and I haven't tested it for months so maybe I'm wrong. I challenge you to go to Wikileaks and find a leak that is from Russia that shows wrong conduct. As of a few months ago the most damning thing I could find was some Russian bank was screwed by some Norwegian(?) bank and they were recouping and hiding the loss because sanctions did allow them to collect from the other foreign bank.
No mention of Government and most of the narrative was against the Norwegian bank.

Please prove me wrong find something in Wikileaks that has something to do with Puting going from a pre election kind of successful guy to one of the richest men in the world during his time in office or anything to do with the recent suspicious deaths in Russia or the palladium poisoning. Literally anything negative will be a challenge.
Wiki may have started with good intentions but at some point in time its become a puppet

 

[Jhhnn]

The White House's response to that wikileaks leak was to condemn them for leaking classified information. No denial.

So how can you call that dishonest? The CIA ARE hacking other countries and blaming it on Russia/China and have effectively admitted to it.

Your conclusion does not follow from your premise, certainly not wrt the recent US election. It doesn't follow wrt France, either.

 

[Crumpet]

But there's already thousands of people reporting on everything that Russia is doing wrong... And they are doing a lot of wrong. Why report on something that everyone else already is, why not focus on the things noone else dare report on, like US, UK and Germany.

That said, i'm not saying that Wikileaks or other leakers don't show some kind of bias towards Russia, maybe it would have something to do with Russia being one of the few countries in the world that won't deport whistleblowers back to their home countries to be imprisoned for telling the world about illegal Government maneuvers.

 

[Crumpet]

Your conclusion does not follow from your premise, certainly not wrt the recent US election. It doesn't follow wrt France, either.

Care to elaborate?

 

[Jaskalas]

Would a cooperative effort work where we share information back and forth with Russia on the IP addresses responsible?
Wouldn't they be interested in clearing their names if innocent?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

But there's already thousands of people reporting on everything that Russia is doing wrong... And they are doing a lot of wrong. Why report on something that everyone else already is, why not focus on the things noone else dare report on, like US, UK and Germany.

That said, i'm not saying that Wikileaks or other leakers don't show some kind of bias towards Russia, maybe it would have something to do with Russia being one of the few countries in the world that won't deport whistleblowers back to their home countries to be imprisoned for telling the world about illegal Government maneuvers.

So you can't show Wikileaks reporting anything negative about Russian leadership got it, thanks Comrade.

 

[Crumpet]

So you can't show Wikileaks reporting anything negative about Russian leadership go it, thanks Comrade.

I can't be a comrade.

I'm against doping, and i'm pro abortions and homosexual marriage.

 

[Jhhnn]

Care to elaborate?

You merely promote conspiracy theory. If the US govt has the capabilities you claim that doesn't mean they've been used for the purpose you allege. You left out the why part. You also ignore the recent past where Russian meddling in the US election & others is obvious and confirmed.

 

[Crumpet]

Hahahaha and the Russians apparently hacking everything isn't a conspiracy theory.

 

[Crumpet]

Man you lot crack me up.

Peace out mah'freedom fighters. I'm off to have a conversation with rational people.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Hahahaha and the Russians apparently hacking everything isn't a conspiracy theory.

Regardless I do the fucking, I don't take getting fucked.
Of course there is US hacking, however it generally doesn't involve a very specific narrative like let's get this guy elected so he can enrich the President. Hell the fact that we have a new President every 4-8 years is enough to show there aren't US dictators

 

[fskimospy]

Got link to that evidence?

Sure, it's the conclusion of basically every intelligence agency. I mean you aren't really naive enough to be duped by people like Glenn Greenwald are you?

Clinton had made threats, verbal and physical to quite a few countries, and had she got in quite a few European countries were worries that she was going to start WW3.

Trump is an idiot, he's only really harmful to America.

Got a link for any evidence of that?

I know a number of people who work for the state department and the UN and they certainly would not echo your sentiment. In fact I bet that would be met with a laugh.

 

[fskimospy]

Man you lot crack me up.

Peace out mah'freedom fighters. I'm off to have a conversation with rational people.

Haha, you were having a conversation with rational people. Irrational people sometimes have trouble noticing that.

 

[hal2kilo]

Nice selfie.

Holy shit that's HTFOFF's avatar.

 

[zinfamous]

Hahahaha and the Russians apparently hacking everything isn't a conspiracy theory.

that's not really a conspiracy theory. It's standard MO for Russian intelligence. Not that other countries are innocent, but I find it strange to suggest that maybe the US or Germany is responsible for hacking and leaking information in order to influence a country towards populist, fascist regimes, simply because they have been known to meddle. Now, what kind of sense does that make from either the US or German perspective? What would either country have to gain from deliberately destroying themselves?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

that's not really a conspiracy theory. It's standard MO for Russian intelligence. Not that other countries are innocent, but I find it strange to suggest that maybe the US or Germany is responsible for hacking and leaking information in order to influence a country towards populist, fascist regimes, simply because they have been known to meddle. Now, what kind of sense does that make from either the US or German perspective? What would either country have to gain from deliberately destroying themselves?

It's 10pm in Russia his shift is probably over.

 

[Jhhnn]

Hahahaha and the Russians apparently hacking everything isn't a conspiracy theory.

correct-

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/russia-hack-election-dnc.html