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Muse

Lifer
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Just use google navigate on your phone. Always up to date and no need to defraud costco.
My LG-VX4500 is not a smartphone. I have a pay as you go plan. I don't believe I can do that. And I'm not defrauding Costco. If I return the GPS because it no longer works it's within their policies. Sheesh.
 
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dbk

Lifer
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I think i'll go return something at Costco just because... maybe one of those giant TVs
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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I agree that it would be a shitty move to return it. I wouldn't expect a GPS unit to last forever. I would say 3-4 years tops. Even if you couldn't get map updates in 4 years you would suck to return it if it still works. Roads don't change all that much. Hell before GPS units there were Thomas guides. I know I didn't buy a new one each and every year. Maybe every five years or more.
Oh, OK, so fill me in. I haven't had a GPS except for the golf one I have from Callaway. If it stops getting updates I can still use it? It just won't have recent changes, such as new on/off ramps, new road extensions and such? Yes, I'm a noobie to this.
 

Muse

Lifer
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Real men stop at gas stations for directions.

Yeah, that's what I did a few weeks ago. I was off course by dozens of miles. Took an off ramp, drove 2+ miles before I saw any commerce, finally went into an enclave with a gas station and a convenience store. Fortunately someone there knew how I could get to my destination. It was then an there I decided I need a GPS. I'd been contemplating it, but that convinced me. I don't know this area all that well, I don't drive all that much. However, if I had a GPS I'd probably drive more, and it would be more enjoyable. Maybe I should forgo it. I don't think I should get a new phone and plan for it. My pay as you go is dirt cheap - like $30/year. A plan will cost me more, all in all probably as much in the long run as this GPS. Plus I doubt it's as full featured.
 
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zerocool84

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My LG-VX4500 is not a smartphone. I have a pay as you go plan. I don't believe I can do that. And I'm not defauding Costco. If I return the GPS because it no longer works it's within their policies. Sheesh.

No, you're returning it because it doesn't get updates, not be a it doesn't work, not Costco's fault and like said before, returns like what you plan on doing are the reason why they changed their return policy already, don't sour it up for us again. And lifetime of any product is lifetime of the device, not your lifetime.
 

02ranger

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Oh, OK, so fill me in. I haven't had a GPS except for the golf one I have from Callaway. If it stops getting updates I can still use it? It just won't have recent changes, such as new on/off ramps, new road extensions and such? Yes, I'm a noobie to this.

Judging from this post, I don't think the OP fully understands what "updates" are for a GPS. The updates are map updates, not the actual directions you're given. If the last update released is in 2018, you can still use it for as long as you like after that, you just won't get new sets of maps to install in 2019, 2020, etc.... It will still give you perfectly good directions, assuming the roads aren't too much different from the maps.

If you knew all this already, sorry..... lol
 

Soundmanred

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My LG-VX4500 is not a smartphone. I have a pay as you go plan. I don't believe I can do that. And I'm not defauding Costco. If I return the GPS because it no longer works it's within their policies. Sheesh.

One question: have you ever gone to the circus to see animals get slaughtered?
 

BoomerD

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No, you're returning it because it doesn't get updates, not be a it doesn't work, not Costco's fault and like said before, returns like what you plan on doing are the reason why they changed their return policy already, don't sour it up for us again. And lifetime of any product is lifetime of the device, not your lifetime.

Fuck that. If they discontinue map updates, it's broken. Return the damned thing. If they get enough of them back, MAYBE Costco will stop carrying their products...

I could sell cars with your warranty idea.

"This car comes with a lifetime warranty!"



(small print)
(once the car leaves the dealership lot, the lifetime of the vehicle is determined to have ended...and the warranty has expired.)
 

Muse

Lifer
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No, you're returning it because it doesn't get updates, not be a it doesn't work, not Costco's fault and like said before, returns like what you plan on doing are the reason why they changed their return policy already, don't sour it up for us again. And lifetime of any product is lifetime of the device, not your lifetime.
Honestly, I'm not planning on doing anything. I don't know the issues, I just read a review by a person who advocated getting a GPS from Costco because in the event that it was no longer able to be updated you could get a refund. Will I do that? I don't know. I'm not planning on doing anything, I just want a GPS. But the idea that I will need to get another in 2-3 years does not sit right with me, I'll be honest.
 

Muse

Lifer
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No, you're returning it because it doesn't get updates, not be a it doesn't work, not Costco's fault and like said before, returns like what you plan on doing are the reason why they changed their return policy already, don't sour it up for us again. And lifetime of any product is lifetime of the device, not your lifetime.
Fuck that. If they discontinue map updates, it's broken. Return the damned thing. If they get enough of them back, MAYBE Costco will stop carrying their products...

I could sell cars with your warranty idea.

"This car comes with a lifetime warranty!"



(small print)
(once the car leaves the dealership lot, the lifetime of the vehicle is determined to have ended...and the warranty has expired.)
Yeah, look, guys, I have been a Costco member since the last century and I have NEVER returned one of those types of items they don't allow you to return now. I am not a scammer or hard case. I can count the things I returned (if I could remember them) on 3 fingers, I figure, and they have been new and unused. Give me a break. It's not like I'm working the system here.

90 days return for televisions, projectors, computers, cameras, camcorders, touchscreen tablets, MP3 players and cellular phones.

I have a stereo receiver I bought there. They had it on sale for $100. When I decided I wanted it and went back to get it the price had gone up to $150. I bought it anyway. Yes, this was in the 1990's. It died last year. It stopped being able to pick up a good FM signal. It's sitting on my front porch waiting to be recycled. It never occurred to me to return it to Costco. I have a toaster I bought there considerably later that's been toasting unevenly, the button to pop up the toast electronically stopped working. I won't return it. But a GPS advertised as enjoying lifetime free traffic updates and not getting them after 2-3 years seems to me another matter.
 
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uclaLabrat

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I bought a Garmin GPS last spring at Costco. Perhaps the best $125 I've ever spent. At the time, we didn't have smart phones, but now that we do, I still use the Garmin. the thing just works. Yes, the voice is annoying and can't pronounce many common street names, but they're also printed on the screen, so it's no biggie.

Yes, if a couple of years down the road, your unit will no longer download maps, just return it to Costco and get a refund. By then, there will probably be an implantable chip to replace it.
Some people just want to watch the world burn :biggrin:
 

RossMAN

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The one I'm looking at (2595) has been out a couple of years I think and I don't want to have to buy another in 2-3 years.

The Garmin nuvi 2595 LMT with HD Traffic is awesome especially if you get in on the $130 sale price, pay with your Amex and have a time machine. We've used ours a few times for out of town jaunts and it's all around great. I debated between this "cheaper" 2595 and the more expensive 3590 for about $90 more, I'm glad I went with the more economical choice. I haven't really tried the voice-activated navigation or bluetooth yet.

I won't comment on the rest because you won't like my reply

Our Garmin is 4 years old and still gets updates.

Our Garmin nuvi 1300 LM is almost 5 years old and I was recently surprised it updated so easily with current maps. All I had to do was download Garmin Express connect with included USB cable, installing a cheap 8GB microSD helped because I'm too lazy to delete unneeded files, wait for updates to install and you're done. Plan on gifting this to a family member (who is cheaper than I am, if that's even humanly possible) for emergency purposes or those times they get lost, I've written down instructions on how to use where am I so I can rely on longitude and latitude instead of an exercise in utter frustration.
 

CA19100

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For those saying "just get an app," here's why I keep a Garmin in my car: International travel. Google Maps works great when I'm in the US, but if I use it on my smartphone while in Canada, I'll get absolutely bankrupted by the data roaming costs. I live on the border and go up there a lot, so the GPS is very handy for me. Its speaker is also much louder than my phone's.
 

killster1

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Wow u can return after years? I returned provalone cheese ghat tasted bad and anew dishrack cuz wanted diff color.. was tempted to return snow toboggon if didnt work very well. They told me to return my executive membership if didn't get the extra 55 back.. didnt knkw u can wait years wow.. nice wonder if they ban u if return to much things. Get new tv every 2months hahaha, so my carpet shampooer has lifetims cosco warranty and novafoam bed the same (the real reason i got membership was forthe bed but loving it now and feel impulse to go evrrytime im in city with one) none where i live.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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The Garmin nuvi 2595 LMT with HD Traffic is awesome especially if you get in on the $130 sale price, pay with your Amex and have a time machine. We've used ours a few times for out of town jaunts and it's all around great. I debated between this "cheaper" 2595 and the more expensive 3590 for about $90 more, I'm glad I went with the more economical choice. I haven't really tried the voice-activated navigation or bluetooth yet.

I won't comment on the rest because you won't like my reply



Our Garmin nuvi 1300 LM is almost 5 years old and I was recently surprised it updated so easily with current maps. All I had to do was download Garmin Express connect with included USB cable, installing a cheap 8GB microSD helped because I'm too lazy to delete unneeded files, wait for updates to install and you're done. Plan on gifting this to a family member (who is cheaper than I am, if that's even humanly possible) for emergency purposes or those times they get lost, I've written down instructions on how to use where am I so I can rely on longitude and latitude instead of an exercise in utter frustration.
Thank you RossMAN! : I took a beating here last night and your comments are salve on my wounds. Yes, I've done some homework to try to find the GPS for me and I arrived at the 2595. It was on sale at Costco in November, but it was on my back burner and when I went in, the sale was just over. It's not on sale there now but according to the website there's a manufacturer rebate for the same discount ($30) until Feb. 28. I think I'll pick it up, likely today. Rah!

RossMAN, why is it advantageous to pay with my Amex card? Edit: Ah, I looked at your link and it's evidently a $15 discount for over $115 purchase but it's by 12/31/13. Maybe there's another, don't know...

I don't think my phone supports Bluetooth, the LG VX4500. I hear it works. The voice activated navigation, YMMV but lots of people do very well with it. It may be necessary to turn down the radio, to speak louder than your companions are accostomed to. To enter addresses by voice is something you probably need to experiment with. A reviewer said you have to do it in a certain order, don't recall ATM. If you don't do that the thing gets confused. You can figure it out. It does, evidently, respond to voice commands in some fashion.

RTFM. It's downloadable, I'm going to print mine on my non-duplexing printer, hand feeding the reverse sides, something I like to do with important manuals. There are some important features and info that are not intuitively obvious that you will get by RTFM.

Reading reviews it is plain that all of these GPS's have their own quirks and characteristics. It's so complicated, nobody's "getting it right."

Yeah, the not enough memory bit when doing downloads: Someone said you can delete unneeded stuff, like extra languages. I prefer English! I'll delete the others. That person said you should/can contact Garmin for help in deleting stuff. I'll probably look into that 8GB microSD card, if cheap enough and I can see a reason for it I'll get it.

Updates are notoriously slow for the 2595. Hey, I've lived my whole life without a GPS. If it takes 15 hours to update, it's an annoyance, but one I can live with.

I have no idea what you are reticent to comment on. With your 78,000 posts I guess you are wise enough not to put stuff out there (well, some) that will get you flack in ATOT. I could have avoided that yesterday and just not posted this thread, one has to live and learn.

YMMV alert: I just watched the video on the 2595 that's at the Costco page. It's about 3 minutes and covers just one feature, basically, the HD Traffic. One of the owner reviews I read was by a person using the 2595 in the Bay Area and he said the HD Traffic feature just doesn't work here.
 
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vshah

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Yeah, look, guys, I have been a Costco member since the last century and I have NEVER returned one of those types of items they don't allow you to return now. I am not a scammer or hard case. I can count the things I returned (if I could remember them) on 3 fingers, I figure, and they have been new and unused. Give me a break. It's not like I'm working the system here.

90 days return for televisions, projectors, computers, cameras, camcorders, touchscreen tablets, MP3 players and cellular phones.

I have a stereo receiver I bought there. They had it on sale for $100. When I decided I wanted it and went back to get it the price had gone up to $150. I bought it anyway. Yes, this was in the 1990's. It died last year. It stopped being able to pick up a good FM signal. It's sitting on my front porch waiting to be recycled. It never occurred to me to return it to Costco. I have a toaster I bought there considerably later that's been toasting unevenly, the button to pop up the toast electronically stopped working. I won't return it. But a GPS advertised as enjoying lifetime free traffic updates and not getting them after 2-3 years seems to me another matter.

i bet the fine print on that GPS states "lifetime of the device as determined by the manufacturer" or something to that effect.
 
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