Question about government jobs...

[Gunslinger08]

Alright, basic economics for you here, FBI.
Government spending is included in the GDP (minus taxes, which is almost always a surplus).
Government spending includes payments to workers, who then spend the money in the economy, thus it is counted twice in the GDP (minus taxes).
Deficit spending causes the printing of more unbacked money. This money leads to inflation of the US dollar. Inflation leads to lower interest rates. Lower interest rates leads to more loans, which leads to more spending, which raises the GDP.

Therefore, government spending through payment to workers raises the GDP, whether they are productive or not.

Josh

 

[CallTheFBI]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
Alright, basic economics for you here, FBI.
Government spending is included in the GDP (minus taxes, which is almost always a surplus).
Government spending includes payments to workers, who then spend the money in the economy, thus it is counted twice in the GDP (minus taxes).
Deficit spending causes the printing of more unbacked money. This money leads to inflation of the US dollar. Inflation leads to lower interest rates. Lower interest rates leads to more loans, which leads to more spending, which raises the GDP.

Therefore, government spending through payment to workers raises the GDP, whether they are productive or not.

Josh

I suggest you listen to this. It tells you about inflation. Anyways big deal, I am productive and I raise the GDP at the same time.

 

[MaxDSP]

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI Yeah, get a government job, that way you have job security and you never have to actually produce anything.

Kinda like a little ungratefull brat who's father buys him a car then he gets all whiney and pissy when the parent then decides to drive the car 50 miles. Pot meet kettle.

Not really. I have a job where I actually provide a service to people. The GDP would actually go down if I stopped working. Not so for government jobs, nothing has to be produced and no results have to be shown.

Hey brat, when was the last time you worked for the government? The GDP would go down eh? Don't kid yourself. You are a pimple faced teenager making $9 an hour, you aren't important to anyone but yourself.

LoL, guess you don't know what the GDP is. I provide a service to hundreds of people everyday, and most appreciate what I do. I spend the money I earn and grease the wheels of the economy, when I spend my money I'm providing for the families who own and operate the businesses where I spend my money. Thus, I am a productive member of society. Not so for someone who is government job bound where they are actually taking money OUT of the economy instead of putting it in.

People who have government jobs don't spend money??
Who would you call if your house was on fire?
What about the money you spend? How is that printed?
What about your bank? What if your bank files chapter 11? Oh wait, the Government has your money insured.

Yeah, they spend tax dollars which comes out of the pockets of productive people.

If my house was on fire I would let it burn to the ground and collect from the insurance company.

I actually hate U.S. dollars. Did you know the federal reserve causes inflation every year and has since the 1930s? The dollar loses value every year because the federal reserve actually creates money that doesn't have goods or services behind it and spends it!

LoL, bank failures are very rare and trust me I wouldn't lose much if it did fail.

Your idea's don't make any sense because Government employess also pay taxes.

Second of all, what if your parent's house burned down and your whole wing was gone? I bet your dad would be upset. Collecting from insurance is not nearly as good as keeping the house you have and EVERYTHING in it fool.

lmao, so you think the Federal Reserve is evil huh? What do you suggest? What does CallTheFBI think we should do to pay for good and services if not USD? You would lose a ton if your dad lost his bank account cause the bank failed. Then you wouldn't have anything you have now because you make crap for a job.

Of course the government taxes its own employees. They tax anyone they can. I believe that government is necessary, I just don't believe that the human race has created any very good governments. The U.S. government is probably the best in the world but trust me, that isn't saying much.

The point that I was trying to make is that this guy isn't liking the private sector so he is trying to get a government job. It is obvious to me the reason for him doing this, he wants job security and he doesn't want to actually have to have a finished product at the end of the day. The job security I can understand but the second part is not a noble reason for getting a government job. I suggest that he finish his degree, then go to grad school and get a doctorate, then go find a job in the private sector and actually PRODUCE something.

He was only loking into government jobs for job security. No where in his post do I sense he is avoiding producing something.

I'm 3 credits away from a Bachelor's in Telecomm (pretty worthless now it seems like ) and looking into government jobs.

Hmm, now let's think about this. How could someone produce something with a worthless degree?

way to take my comment out of context you fscking jagoff. The IT sector is in a slump and if you think its easy to find a job with a degree in IT, then you got another thing coming. Ive got friends with more education than me and even they cant find a job in the private sector. DO you know what my fscking job is right now? No? Then you should shut the fsck up before you tell people to go get doctorates when you yourself are working in a restaurant and seem to think that your job is the only thing keeping the GDP up.

You service hundreds of people? I service hundreds of flights EACH AND EVERY DAY out of chicago. Multiply those hundreds by the hundreds of passengers on each flight, and I'm at the least 100x more productive than you are, according to your calculations. How do you like them apples? :|


Like Spac3d said,

 

[CallTheFBI]

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI Yeah, get a government job, that way you have job security and you never have to actually produce anything.

Kinda like a little ungratefull brat who's father buys him a car then he gets all whiney and pissy when the parent then decides to drive the car 50 miles. Pot meet kettle.

Not really. I have a job where I actually provide a service to people. The GDP would actually go down if I stopped working. Not so for government jobs, nothing has to be produced and no results have to be shown.

Hey brat, when was the last time you worked for the government? The GDP would go down eh? Don't kid yourself. You are a pimple faced teenager making $9 an hour, you aren't important to anyone but yourself.

LoL, guess you don't know what the GDP is. I provide a service to hundreds of people everyday, and most appreciate what I do. I spend the money I earn and grease the wheels of the economy, when I spend my money I'm providing for the families who own and operate the businesses where I spend my money. Thus, I am a productive member of society. Not so for someone who is government job bound where they are actually taking money OUT of the economy instead of putting it in.

People who have government jobs don't spend money??
Who would you call if your house was on fire?
What about the money you spend? How is that printed?
What about your bank? What if your bank files chapter 11? Oh wait, the Government has your money insured.

Yeah, they spend tax dollars which comes out of the pockets of productive people.

If my house was on fire I would let it burn to the ground and collect from the insurance company.

I actually hate U.S. dollars. Did you know the federal reserve causes inflation every year and has since the 1930s? The dollar loses value every year because the federal reserve actually creates money that doesn't have goods or services behind it and spends it!

LoL, bank failures are very rare and trust me I wouldn't lose much if it did fail.

Your idea's don't make any sense because Government employess also pay taxes.

Second of all, what if your parent's house burned down and your whole wing was gone? I bet your dad would be upset. Collecting from insurance is not nearly as good as keeping the house you have and EVERYTHING in it fool.

lmao, so you think the Federal Reserve is evil huh? What do you suggest? What does CallTheFBI think we should do to pay for good and services if not USD? You would lose a ton if your dad lost his bank account cause the bank failed. Then you wouldn't have anything you have now because you make crap for a job.

Of course the government taxes its own employees. They tax anyone they can. I believe that government is necessary, I just don't believe that the human race has created any very good governments. The U.S. government is probably the best in the world but trust me, that isn't saying much.

The point that I was trying to make is that this guy isn't liking the private sector so he is trying to get a government job. It is obvious to me the reason for him doing this, he wants job security and he doesn't want to actually have to have a finished product at the end of the day. The job security I can understand but the second part is not a noble reason for getting a government job. I suggest that he finish his degree, then go to grad school and get a doctorate, then go find a job in the private sector and actually PRODUCE something.

He was only loking into government jobs for job security. No where in his post do I sense he is avoiding producing something.

I'm 3 credits away from a Bachelor's in Telecomm (pretty worthless now it seems like ) and looking into government jobs.

Hmm, now let's think about this. How could someone produce something with a worthless degree?

way to take my comment out of context you fscking jagoff. The IT sector is in a slump and if you think its easy to find a job with a degree in IT, then you got another thing coming. Ive got friends with more education than me and even they cant find a job in the private sector. DO you know what my fscking job is right now? No? Then you should shut the fsck up before you tell people to go get doctorates when you yourself are working in a restaurant and seem to think that your job is the only thing keeping the GDP up.

You service hundreds of people? I service hundreds of flights EACH AND EVERY DAY out of chicago. Multiply those hundreds by the hundreds of passengers on each flight, and I'm at the least 100x more productive than you are, according to your calculations. How do you like them apples? :|


Like Spac3d said,

Yeah and Bill Gates is billions of times more productive that you. Point being?

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI
Yeah, get a government job, that way you have job security and you never have to actually produce anything.

Kinda like a little ungratefull brat who's father buys him a car then he gets all whiney and pissy when the parent then decides to drive the car 50 miles.

Pot meet kettle.

Not really. I have a job where I actually provide a service to people. The GDP would actually go down if I stopped working. Not so for government jobs, nothing has to be produced and no results have to be shown.

Hey brat, when was the last time you worked for the government? The GDP would go down eh? Don't kid yourself. You are a pimple faced teenager making $9 an hour, you aren't important to anyone but yourself.

LoL, guess you don't know what the GDP is. I provide a service to hundreds of people everyday, and most appreciate what I do. I spend the money I earn and grease the wheels of the economy, when I spend my money I'm providing for the families who own and operate the businesses where I spend my money. Thus, I am a productive member of society. Not so for someone who is government job bound where they are actually taking money OUT of the economy instead of putting it in.

over 99 Billion served

 

[MaxDSP]

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: MaxDSP

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI Yeah, get a government job, that way you have job security and you never have to actually produce anything.

Kinda like a little ungratefull brat who's father buys him a car then he gets all whiney and pissy when the parent then decides to drive the car 50 miles. Pot meet kettle.

Not really. I have a job where I actually provide a service to people. The GDP would actually go down if I stopped working. Not so for government jobs, nothing has to be produced and no results have to be shown.

Hey brat, when was the last time you worked for the government? The GDP would go down eh? Don't kid yourself. You are a pimple faced teenager making $9 an hour, you aren't important to anyone but yourself.

LoL, guess you don't know what the GDP is. I provide a service to hundreds of people everyday, and most appreciate what I do. I spend the money I earn and grease the wheels of the economy, when I spend my money I'm providing for the families who own and operate the businesses where I spend my money. Thus, I am a productive member of society. Not so for someone who is government job bound where they are actually taking money OUT of the economy instead of putting it in.

People who have government jobs don't spend money??
Who would you call if your house was on fire?
What about the money you spend? How is that printed?
What about your bank? What if your bank files chapter 11? Oh wait, the Government has your money insured.

Yeah, they spend tax dollars which comes out of the pockets of productive people.

If my house was on fire I would let it burn to the ground and collect from the insurance company.

I actually hate U.S. dollars. Did you know the federal reserve causes inflation every year and has since the 1930s? The dollar loses value every year because the federal reserve actually creates money that doesn't have goods or services behind it and spends it!

LoL, bank failures are very rare and trust me I wouldn't lose much if it did fail.

Your idea's don't make any sense because Government employess also pay taxes.

Second of all, what if your parent's house burned down and your whole wing was gone? I bet your dad would be upset. Collecting from insurance is not nearly as good as keeping the house you have and EVERYTHING in it fool.

lmao, so you think the Federal Reserve is evil huh? What do you suggest? What does CallTheFBI think we should do to pay for good and services if not USD? You would lose a ton if your dad lost his bank account cause the bank failed. Then you wouldn't have anything you have now because you make crap for a job.

Of course the government taxes its own employees. They tax anyone they can. I believe that government is necessary, I just don't believe that the human race has created any very good governments. The U.S. government is probably the best in the world but trust me, that isn't saying much.

The point that I was trying to make is that this guy isn't liking the private sector so he is trying to get a government job. It is obvious to me the reason for him doing this, he wants job security and he doesn't want to actually have to have a finished product at the end of the day. The job security I can understand but the second part is not a noble reason for getting a government job. I suggest that he finish his degree, then go to grad school and get a doctorate, then go find a job in the private sector and actually PRODUCE something.

He was only loking into government jobs for job security. No where in his post do I sense he is avoiding producing something.

I'm 3 credits away from a Bachelor's in Telecomm (pretty worthless now it seems like ) and looking into government jobs.

Hmm, now let's think about this. How could someone produce something with a worthless degree?

way to take my comment out of context you fscking jagoff. The IT sector is in a slump and if you think its easy to find a job with a degree in IT, then you got another thing coming. Ive got friends with more education than me and even they cant find a job in the private sector. DO you know what my fscking job is right now? No? Then you should shut the fsck up before you tell people to go get doctorates when you yourself are working in a restaurant and seem to think that your job is the only thing keeping the GDP up.

You service hundreds of people? I service hundreds of flights EACH AND EVERY DAY out of chicago. Multiply those hundreds by the hundreds of passengers on each flight, and I'm at the least 100x more productive than you are, according to your calculations. How do you like them apples? :|


Like Spac3d said,

Yeah and Bill Gates is billions of times more productive that you. Point being?

You tell me. You initiated the whole productivity and GDP subject

 

[rawoutput]

Reading this thread is like watching that TV show where Bill Cosby has those little kids come up and say stupid garbage while everyone laughs. FBI boy is the little kid here trying to justify his McDonalds job as something that has actual worth to society. Are you trying to say that defense spending by the Fed doesn't contribute to the GDP? Government spending is a huge factor in GDP, maybe your next semester economics class will teach you that.

Insignificant = Your crummy waitress job

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