Question about government jobs...

[BigSmooth]

One thing about state jobs here in Oregon is the pay ranges are ridiculously huge. I applied for a job once that had a range of something like $31K - $46K annually. I wouldn't have even accepted the job at $31K but I would have certainly taken it at $46K.

Unfortunately, I think you usually start at the bottom of the range unless you have lots of specific experience in that area.

 

[Spac3d]

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI Yeah, get a government job, that way you have job security and you never have to actually produce anything.

Kinda like a little ungratefull brat who's father buys him a car then he gets all whiney and pissy when the parent then decides to drive the car 50 miles. Pot meet kettle.

Not really. I have a job where I actually provide a service to people. The GDP would actually go down if I stopped working. Not so for government jobs, nothing has to be produced and no results have to be shown.

Hey brat, when was the last time you worked for the government? The GDP would go down eh? Don't kid yourself. You are a pimple faced teenager making $9 an hour, you aren't important to anyone but yourself.

LoL, guess you don't know what the GDP is. I provide a service to hundreds of people everyday, and most appreciate what I do. I spend the money I earn and grease the wheels of the economy, when I spend my money I'm providing for the families who own and operate the businesses where I spend my money. Thus, I am a productive member of society. Not so for someone who is government job bound where they are actually taking money OUT of the economy instead of putting it in.

People who have government jobs don't spend money??
Who would you call if your house was on fire?
What about the money you spend? How is that printed?
What about your bank? What if your bank files chapter 11? Oh wait, the Government has your money insured.

Yeah, they spend tax dollars which comes out of the pockets of productive people.

If my house was on fire I would let it burn to the ground and collect from the insurance company.

I actually hate U.S. dollars. Did you know the federal reserve causes inflation every year and has since the 1930s? The dollar loses value every year because the federal reserve actually creates money that doesn't have goods or services behind it and spends it!

LoL, bank failures are very rare and trust me I wouldn't lose much if it did fail.

Your idea's don't make any sense because Government employess also pay taxes.

Second of all, what if your parent's house burned down and your whole wing was gone? I bet your dad would be upset. Collecting from insurance is not nearly as good as keeping the house you have and EVERYTHING in it fool.

lmao, so you think the Federal Reserve is evil huh? What do you suggest? What does CallTheFBI think we should do to pay for good and services if not USD? You would lose a ton if your dad lost his bank account cause the bank failed. Then you wouldn't have anything you have now because you make crap for a job.

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI


Yeah, they spend tax dollars which comes out of the pockets of productive people.

What would you know about being productive? Productive people are missed by society when they are removed. If you died today your parents would crack open the champagne and celebrate.

 

[shifrbv]

LOL at your idea of government jobs taking money out of economy. What, do you think people who work for the government don't buy any goods or services?

I think you're looking at it the wrong way. Government people do spend money. But spending money doesn't necessarily help the economy. We could all go out and empty our bank accounts today and flock to the stores and the shelves would be empty. In the short term, for the next few months, the economy would show some life and stores would place more orders and factories would build more stuff. But what happens we we don't have any money left? We'll be right back to the same problems as before.

The problem with too many people working for the government is not that they don't consume, but rather, that they don't produce any wealth. They're just at the tail end of a huge wealth redistribution scheme. They're in the same business as healthcare workers and trial lawyers. They just shuffle money from Peter to pay Paul.

The people who are the most valuable in a society are the ones who produce real wealth (via harvesting of natural resources, building products which other people want to buy, producing software, movies, music that others want to purchase, etc.) Those are the valuable ones and the ones who impact GDP over the long term.

The others are just along for the ride but really do nothing for the long-term health of an economy because they do not produce wealth, they just consume.

 

[CallTheFBI]

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI Yeah, get a government job, that way you have job security and you never have to actually produce anything.

Kinda like a little ungratefull brat who's father buys him a car then he gets all whiney and pissy when the parent then decides to drive the car 50 miles. Pot meet kettle.

Not really. I have a job where I actually provide a service to people. The GDP would actually go down if I stopped working. Not so for government jobs, nothing has to be produced and no results have to be shown.

Hey brat, when was the last time you worked for the government? The GDP would go down eh? Don't kid yourself. You are a pimple faced teenager making $9 an hour, you aren't important to anyone but yourself.

LoL, guess you don't know what the GDP is. I provide a service to hundreds of people everyday, and most appreciate what I do. I spend the money I earn and grease the wheels of the economy, when I spend my money I'm providing for the families who own and operate the businesses where I spend my money. Thus, I am a productive member of society. Not so for someone who is government job bound where they are actually taking money OUT of the economy instead of putting it in.

People who have government jobs don't spend money??
Who would you call if your house was on fire?
What about the money you spend? How is that printed?
What about your bank? What if your bank files chapter 11? Oh wait, the Government has your money insured.

Yeah, they spend tax dollars which comes out of the pockets of productive people.

If my house was on fire I would let it burn to the ground and collect from the insurance company.

I actually hate U.S. dollars. Did you know the federal reserve causes inflation every year and has since the 1930s? The dollar loses value every year because the federal reserve actually creates money that doesn't have goods or services behind it and spends it!

LoL, bank failures are very rare and trust me I wouldn't lose much if it did fail.

Your idea's don't make any sense because Government employess also pay taxes.

Second of all, what if your parent's house burned down and your whole wing was gone? I bet your dad would be upset. Collecting from insurance is not nearly as good as keeping the house you have and EVERYTHING in it fool.

lmao, so you think the Federal Reserve is evil huh? What do you suggest? What does CallTheFBI think we should do to pay for good and services if not USD? You would lose a ton if your dad lost his bank account cause the bank failed. Then you wouldn't have anything you have now because you make crap for a job.

Of course the government taxes its own employees. They tax anyone they can. I believe that government is necessary, I just don't believe that the human race has created any very good governments. The U.S. government is probably the best in the world but trust me, that isn't saying much.

The point that I was trying to make is that this guy isn't liking the private sector so he is trying to get a government job. It is obvious to me the reason for him doing this, he wants job security and he doesn't want to actually have to have a finished product at the end of the day. The job security I can understand but the second part is not a noble reason for getting a government job. I suggest that he finish his degree, then go to grad school and get a doctorate, then go find a job in the private sector and actually PRODUCE something.

 

[Spac3d]

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI Yeah, get a government job, that way you have job security and you never have to actually produce anything.

Kinda like a little ungratefull brat who's father buys him a car then he gets all whiney and pissy when the parent then decides to drive the car 50 miles. Pot meet kettle.

Not really. I have a job where I actually provide a service to people. The GDP would actually go down if I stopped working. Not so for government jobs, nothing has to be produced and no results have to be shown.

Hey brat, when was the last time you worked for the government? The GDP would go down eh? Don't kid yourself. You are a pimple faced teenager making $9 an hour, you aren't important to anyone but yourself.

LoL, guess you don't know what the GDP is. I provide a service to hundreds of people everyday, and most appreciate what I do. I spend the money I earn and grease the wheels of the economy, when I spend my money I'm providing for the families who own and operate the businesses where I spend my money. Thus, I am a productive member of society. Not so for someone who is government job bound where they are actually taking money OUT of the economy instead of putting it in.

People who have government jobs don't spend money??
Who would you call if your house was on fire?
What about the money you spend? How is that printed?
What about your bank? What if your bank files chapter 11? Oh wait, the Government has your money insured.

Yeah, they spend tax dollars which comes out of the pockets of productive people.

If my house was on fire I would let it burn to the ground and collect from the insurance company.

I actually hate U.S. dollars. Did you know the federal reserve causes inflation every year and has since the 1930s? The dollar loses value every year because the federal reserve actually creates money that doesn't have goods or services behind it and spends it!

LoL, bank failures are very rare and trust me I wouldn't lose much if it did fail.

Your idea's don't make any sense because Government employess also pay taxes.

Second of all, what if your parent's house burned down and your whole wing was gone? I bet your dad would be upset. Collecting from insurance is not nearly as good as keeping the house you have and EVERYTHING in it fool.

lmao, so you think the Federal Reserve is evil huh? What do you suggest? What does CallTheFBI think we should do to pay for good and services if not USD? You would lose a ton if your dad lost his bank account cause the bank failed. Then you wouldn't have anything you have now because you make crap for a job.

Of course the government taxes its own employees. They tax anyone they can. I believe that government is necessary, I just don't believe that the human race has created any very good governments. The U.S. government is probably the best in the world but trust me, that isn't saying much.

The point that I was trying to make is that this guy isn't liking the private sector so he is trying to get a government job. It is obvious to me the reason for him doing this, he wants job security and he doesn't want to actually have to have a finished product at the end of the day. The job security I can understand but the second part is not a noble reason for getting a government job. I suggest that he finish his degree, then go to grad school and get a doctorate, then go find a job in the private sector and actually PRODUCE something.

He was only loking into government jobs for job security. No where in his post do I sense he is avoiding producing something.

 

[CallTheFBI]

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI Yeah, get a government job, that way you have job security and you never have to actually produce anything.

Kinda like a little ungratefull brat who's father buys him a car then he gets all whiney and pissy when the parent then decides to drive the car 50 miles. Pot meet kettle.

Not really. I have a job where I actually provide a service to people. The GDP would actually go down if I stopped working. Not so for government jobs, nothing has to be produced and no results have to be shown.

Hey brat, when was the last time you worked for the government? The GDP would go down eh? Don't kid yourself. You are a pimple faced teenager making $9 an hour, you aren't important to anyone but yourself.

LoL, guess you don't know what the GDP is. I provide a service to hundreds of people everyday, and most appreciate what I do. I spend the money I earn and grease the wheels of the economy, when I spend my money I'm providing for the families who own and operate the businesses where I spend my money. Thus, I am a productive member of society. Not so for someone who is government job bound where they are actually taking money OUT of the economy instead of putting it in.

People who have government jobs don't spend money??
Who would you call if your house was on fire?
What about the money you spend? How is that printed?
What about your bank? What if your bank files chapter 11? Oh wait, the Government has your money insured.

Yeah, they spend tax dollars which comes out of the pockets of productive people.

If my house was on fire I would let it burn to the ground and collect from the insurance company.

I actually hate U.S. dollars. Did you know the federal reserve causes inflation every year and has since the 1930s? The dollar loses value every year because the federal reserve actually creates money that doesn't have goods or services behind it and spends it!

LoL, bank failures are very rare and trust me I wouldn't lose much if it did fail.

Your idea's don't make any sense because Government employess also pay taxes.

Second of all, what if your parent's house burned down and your whole wing was gone? I bet your dad would be upset. Collecting from insurance is not nearly as good as keeping the house you have and EVERYTHING in it fool.

lmao, so you think the Federal Reserve is evil huh? What do you suggest? What does CallTheFBI think we should do to pay for good and services if not USD? You would lose a ton if your dad lost his bank account cause the bank failed. Then you wouldn't have anything you have now because you make crap for a job.

Of course the government taxes its own employees. They tax anyone they can. I believe that government is necessary, I just don't believe that the human race has created any very good governments. The U.S. government is probably the best in the world but trust me, that isn't saying much.

The point that I was trying to make is that this guy isn't liking the private sector so he is trying to get a government job. It is obvious to me the reason for him doing this, he wants job security and he doesn't want to actually have to have a finished product at the end of the day. The job security I can understand but the second part is not a noble reason for getting a government job. I suggest that he finish his degree, then go to grad school and get a doctorate, then go find a job in the private sector and actually PRODUCE something.

He was only loking into government jobs for job security. No where in his post do I sense he is avoiding producing something.

I'm 3 credits away from a Bachelor's in Telecomm (pretty worthless now it seems like ) and looking into government jobs.

Hmm, now let's think about this. How could someone produce something with a worthless degree?

 

[Spac3d]

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI Yeah, get a government job, that way you have job security and you never have to actually produce anything.

Kinda like a little ungratefull brat who's father buys him a car then he gets all whiney and pissy when the parent then decides to drive the car 50 miles. Pot meet kettle.

Not really. I have a job where I actually provide a service to people. The GDP would actually go down if I stopped working. Not so for government jobs, nothing has to be produced and no results have to be shown.

Hey brat, when was the last time you worked for the government? The GDP would go down eh? Don't kid yourself. You are a pimple faced teenager making $9 an hour, you aren't important to anyone but yourself.

LoL, guess you don't know what the GDP is. I provide a service to hundreds of people everyday, and most appreciate what I do. I spend the money I earn and grease the wheels of the economy, when I spend my money I'm providing for the families who own and operate the businesses where I spend my money. Thus, I am a productive member of society. Not so for someone who is government job bound where they are actually taking money OUT of the economy instead of putting it in.

People who have government jobs don't spend money??
Who would you call if your house was on fire?
What about the money you spend? How is that printed?
What about your bank? What if your bank files chapter 11? Oh wait, the Government has your money insured.

Yeah, they spend tax dollars which comes out of the pockets of productive people.

If my house was on fire I would let it burn to the ground and collect from the insurance company.

I actually hate U.S. dollars. Did you know the federal reserve causes inflation every year and has since the 1930s? The dollar loses value every year because the federal reserve actually creates money that doesn't have goods or services behind it and spends it!

LoL, bank failures are very rare and trust me I wouldn't lose much if it did fail.

Your idea's don't make any sense because Government employess also pay taxes.

Second of all, what if your parent's house burned down and your whole wing was gone? I bet your dad would be upset. Collecting from insurance is not nearly as good as keeping the house you have and EVERYTHING in it fool.

lmao, so you think the Federal Reserve is evil huh? What do you suggest? What does CallTheFBI think we should do to pay for good and services if not USD? You would lose a ton if your dad lost his bank account cause the bank failed. Then you wouldn't have anything you have now because you make crap for a job.

Of course the government taxes its own employees. They tax anyone they can. I believe that government is necessary, I just don't believe that the human race has created any very good governments. The U.S. government is probably the best in the world but trust me, that isn't saying much.

The point that I was trying to make is that this guy isn't liking the private sector so he is trying to get a government job. It is obvious to me the reason for him doing this, he wants job security and he doesn't want to actually have to have a finished product at the end of the day. The job security I can understand but the second part is not a noble reason for getting a government job. I suggest that he finish his degree, then go to grad school and get a doctorate, then go find a job in the private sector and actually PRODUCE something.

He was only loking into government jobs for job security. No where in his post do I sense he is avoiding producing something.

I'm 3 credits away from a Bachelor's in Telecomm (pretty worthless now it seems like ) and looking into government jobs.

Hmm, now let's think about this. How could someone produce something with a worthless degree?

That isn't what he is saying. He is saying that back when he first started school, Telecomm degrees were sought after. That sector has taken a large hit and the degree doesn't mean much. It doesn't mean he doesn't want to be productive, but that the degree is not as important to employers as it once was.

 

[Swag1138]

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI
Of course the government taxes its own employees. They tax anyone they can. I believe that government is necessary, I just don't believe that the human race has created any very good governments. The U.S. government is probably the best in the world but trust me, that isn't saying much.

The point that I was trying to make is that this guy isn't liking the private sector so he is trying to get a government job. It is obvious to me the reason for him doing this, he wants job security and he doesn't want to actually have to have a finished product at the end of the day. The job security I can understand but the second part is not a noble reason for getting a government job. I suggest that he finish his degree, then go to grad school and get a doctorate, then go find a job in the private sector and actually PRODUCE something.

Why dont you go to work and actually PRODUCE something. What is it you produce anyway? I dont think youve mentioned that in this thread. It makes any point you make highly suspect when you wont say what you yourself do. For all we know, you could be working in a government job.

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: Swag1138
It makes any point you make highly suspect when you wont say what you yourself do.

Probably the day shift down at the bus station glory hole. CalltheFBI...Hoover...hmmm.

 

[TNTrulez]

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI Yeah, get a government job, that way you have job security and you never have to actually produce anything.

Kinda like a little ungratefull brat who's father buys him a car then he gets all whiney and pissy when the parent then decides to drive the car 50 miles. Pot meet kettle.

Not really. I have a job where I actually provide a service to people. The GDP would actually go down if I stopped working. Not so for government jobs, nothing has to be produced and no results have to be shown.

Hey brat, when was the last time you worked for the government? The GDP would go down eh? Don't kid yourself. You are a pimple faced teenager making $9 an hour, you aren't important to anyone but yourself.

LoL, guess you don't know what the GDP is. I provide a service to hundreds of people everyday, and most appreciate what I do. I spend the money I earn and grease the wheels of the economy, when I spend my money I'm providing for the families who own and operate the businesses where I spend my money. Thus, I am a productive member of society. Not so for someone who is government job bound where they are actually taking money OUT of the economy instead of putting it in.

People who have government jobs don't spend money??
Who would you call if your house was on fire?
What about the money you spend? How is that printed?
What about your bank? What if your bank files chapter 11? Oh wait, the Government has your money insured.

Yeah, they spend tax dollars which comes out of the pockets of productive people.

If my house was on fire I would let it burn to the ground and collect from the insurance company.

I actually hate U.S. dollars. Did you know the federal reserve causes inflation every year and has since the 1930s? The dollar loses value every year because the federal reserve actually creates money that doesn't have goods or services behind it and spends it!

LoL, bank failures are very rare and trust me I wouldn't lose much if it did fail.

Your idea's don't make any sense because Government employess also pay taxes.

Second of all, what if your parent's house burned down and your whole wing was gone? I bet your dad would be upset. Collecting from insurance is not nearly as good as keeping the house you have and EVERYTHING in it fool.

lmao, so you think the Federal Reserve is evil huh? What do you suggest? What does CallTheFBI think we should do to pay for good and services if not USD? You would lose a ton if your dad lost his bank account cause the bank failed. Then you wouldn't have anything you have now because you make crap for a job.

Of course the government taxes its own employees. They tax anyone they can. I believe that government is necessary, I just don't believe that the human race has created any very good governments. The U.S. government is probably the best in the world but trust me, that isn't saying much.

The point that I was trying to make is that this guy isn't liking the private sector so he is trying to get a government job. It is obvious to me the reason for him doing this, he wants job security and he doesn't want to actually have to have a finished product at the end of the day. The job security I can understand but the second part is not a noble reason for getting a government job. I suggest that he finish his degree, then go to grad school and get a doctorate, then go find a job in the private sector and actually PRODUCE something.

Fvcking idiot. I suggest you shut up, but I don't see you doing that.

 

[CallTheFBI]

Originally posted by: Swag1138

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI
Of course the government taxes its own employees. They tax anyone they can. I believe that government is necessary, I just don't believe that the human race has created any very good governments. The U.S. government is probably the best in the world but trust me, that isn't saying much.

The point that I was trying to make is that this guy isn't liking the private sector so he is trying to get a government job. It is obvious to me the reason for him doing this, he wants job security and he doesn't want to actually have to have a finished product at the end of the day. The job security I can understand but the second part is not a noble reason for getting a government job. I suggest that he finish his degree, then go to grad school and get a doctorate, then go find a job in the private sector and actually PRODUCE something.

Why dont you go to work and actually PRODUCE something. What is it you produce anyway? I dont think youve mentioned that in this thread. It makes any point you make highly suspect when you wont say what you yourself do. For all we know, you could be working in a government job.

I work at a restaurant and I make sure that meals are given out accurately to hundreds of people everyday.

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Yeah, they spend tax dollars which comes out of the pockets of productive people.

If my house was on fire I would let it burn to the ground and collect from the insurance company.

LMAO, do you have any idea what insurance would cost without fire protections services and building codes?
Aside from that, if you only see your home as a structure to be easily replaced, I feel sorry for you. There's alot in my home that money can't replace.

I actually hate U.S. dollars. Did you know the federal reserve causes inflation every year and has since the 1930s? The dollar loses value every year because the federal reserve actually creates money that doesn't have goods or services behind it and spends it!

LoL, bank failures are very rare and trust me I wouldn't lose much if it did fail.

So you keep your money under the matress?
One of the reasons bank failures are somewhat rare is due to the high degree of government regulation. Just look at the S&L scandel from a few years back to see what can happen when those regulations (or the enforcement of them) is lax.

 

[CallTheFBI]

Originally posted by: ergeorge

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Yeah, they spend tax dollars which comes out of the pockets of productive people.

If my house was on fire I would let it burn to the ground and collect from the insurance company.

LMAO, do you have any idea what insurance would cost without fire protections services and building codes?
Aside from that, if you only see your home as a structure to be easily replaced, I feel sorry for you. There's alot in my home that money can't replace.

I actually hate U.S. dollars. Did you know the federal reserve causes inflation every year and has since the 1930s? The dollar loses value every year because the federal reserve actually creates money that doesn't have goods or services behind it and spends it!

LoL, bank failures are very rare and trust me I wouldn't lose much if it did fail.

So you keep your money under the matress?
One of the reasons bank failures are somewhat rare is due to the high degree of government regulation. Just look at the S&L scandel from a few years back to see what can happen when those regulations (or the enforcement of them) is lax.

S&L scandal from a few years ago? I think not! That happened in the 80s. We are SO past that.

 

[Spamela]

i work for the government & i've worked in private industry.

as for producing "nothing," if you did that where i work you'd be out of a job. i know many people who work
incredibly hard & are very dedicated and nobody's going to tolerate a co-worker who isn't pulling his/her
share of the load.

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: ergeorge

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Yeah, they spend tax dollars which comes out of the pockets of productive people.

If my house was on fire I would let it burn to the ground and collect from the insurance company.

LMAO, do you have any idea what insurance would cost without fire protections services and building codes?
Aside from that, if you only see your home as a structure to be easily replaced, I feel sorry for you. There's alot in my home that money can't replace.

I actually hate U.S. dollars. Did you know the federal reserve causes inflation every year and has since the 1930s? The dollar loses value every year because the federal reserve actually creates money that doesn't have goods or services behind it and spends it!

LoL, bank failures are very rare and trust me I wouldn't lose much if it did fail.

So you keep your money under the matress?
One of the reasons bank failures are somewhat rare is due to the high degree of government regulation. Just look at the S&L scandel from a few years back to see what can happen when those regulations (or the enforcement of them) is lax.

S&L scandal from a few years ago? I think not! That happened in the 80s. We are SO past that.

Jeez what an idiot.
Oh well, howzitgo?
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
Keep thinking happy thoughts

 

[CallTheFBI]

Originally posted by: Spamela
i work for the government & i've worked in private industry.

as for producing "nothing," if you did that where i work you'd be out of a job. i know many people who work
incredibly hard & are very dedicated and nobody's going to tolerate a co-worker who isn't pulling his/her
share of the load.

Good for you. If you call 911 on a cell phone in San Diego though you get the CHP. The CHP is extremely understaffed when it comes to dispatchers and you can be on hold for as long as half an hour. That is just one example of a government agency not required to show any results.

 

[Spamela]

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spamela
i work for the government & i've worked in private industry.

as for producing "nothing," if you did that where i work you'd be out of a job. i know many people who work
incredibly hard & are very dedicated and nobody's going to tolerate a co-worker who isn't pulling his/her
share of the load.

Good for you. If you call 911 on a cell phone in San Diego though you get the CHP. The CHP is extremely understaffed when it comes to dispatchers and you can be on hold for as long as half an hour. That is just one example of a government agency not required to show any results.

they're probably showing the best results they can with the funding they get for dispatchers.

however, if their funding is comparable to that for other cities of similar size and their performance is way below acceptable, then some heads need to roll.

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spamela
i work for the government & i've worked in private industry.

as for producing "nothing," if you did that where i work you'd be out of a job. i know many people who work
incredibly hard & are very dedicated and nobody's going to tolerate a co-worker who isn't pulling his/her
share of the load.

Good for you. If you call 911 on a cell phone in San Diego though you get the CHP. The CHP is extremely understaffed when it comes to dispatchers and you can be on hold for as long as half an hour. That is just one example of a government agency not required to show any results.

Is this the fault of the CHP for being lazy & incompetent, or the fault of the state for not giving them enough resources to get the job done?
Don't bother answering unless you can back it up.

 

[CallTheFBI]

Originally posted by: ergeorge

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spamela
i work for the government & i've worked in private industry.

as for producing "nothing," if you did that where i work you'd be out of a job. i know many people who work
incredibly hard & are very dedicated and nobody's going to tolerate a co-worker who isn't pulling his/her
share of the load.

Good for you. If you call 911 on a cell phone in San Diego though you get the CHP. The CHP is extremely understaffed when it comes to dispatchers and you can be on hold for as long as half an hour. That is just one example of a government agency not required to show any results.

Is this the fault of the CHP for being lazy & incompetent, or the fault of the state for not giving them enough resources to get the job done?
Don't bother answering unless you can back it up.

I can easily back it up. One of my relatives was the assistant secretary of energy during the '80s. He worked on Star Wars and was also a key player in stopping a huge particle accelerator from being built. He has told me numerous stories of government ineffieciency and incompetence. He quit working for the government and now has his own company for the reasons stated above.

 

[Spamela]

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: ergeorge

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spamela
i work for the government & i've worked in private industry.

as for producing "nothing," if you did that where i work you'd be out of a job. i know many people who work
incredibly hard & are very dedicated and nobody's going to tolerate a co-worker who isn't pulling his/her
share of the load.

Good for you. If you call 911 on a cell phone in San Diego though you get the CHP. The CHP is extremely understaffed when it comes to dispatchers and you can be on hold for as long as half an hour. That is just one example of a government agency not required to show any results.

Is this the fault of the CHP for being lazy & incompetent, or the fault of the state for not giving them enough resources to get the job done?
Don't bother answering unless you can back it up.

I can easily back it up. One of my relatives was the assistant secretary of energy during the '80s. He worked on Star Wars and was also a key player in stopping a huge particle accelerator from being built. He has told me numerous stories of government ineffieciency and incompetence. He quit working for the government and now has his own company for the reasons stated above.

IMHO, there is "waste, fraud, & abuse" in both public and private sectors.
however, the amount seems to be more related to the size of an organization, rather than the type
(e.g., this seems to be inherent in organizations).

you'll probably find the most where there's the most money: defense dept., social security, etc. in government,
large corporations in the private sector.

 

[freegeeks]

Yeah, get a government job, that way you have job security and you never have to actually produce anything.

The only thing you produce CallTheFBI is the manure that is spitting probably twice a day out of your pimpled faced ass

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: ergeorge

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spamela
i work for the government & i've worked in private industry.

as for producing "nothing," if you did that where i work you'd be out of a job. i know many people who work
incredibly hard & are very dedicated and nobody's going to tolerate a co-worker who isn't pulling his/her
share of the load.

Good for you. If you call 911 on a cell phone in San Diego though you get the CHP. The CHP is extremely understaffed when it comes to dispatchers and you can be on hold for as long as half an hour. That is just one example of a government agency not required to show any results.

Is this the fault of the CHP for being lazy & incompetent, or the fault of the state for not giving them enough resources to get the job done?
Don't bother answering unless you can back it up.

I can easily back it up. One of my relatives was the assistant secretary of energy during the '80s. He worked on Star Wars and was also a key player in stopping a huge particle accelerator from being built. He has told me numerous stories of government ineffieciency and incompetence. He quit working for the government and now has his own company for the reasons stated above.

LMAO, this is to funny.
Your either trolling tremendously, or one of the stupidest people I've ever encountered!
Hearsay from a relative doesn't even come close to backing up a your assertion that CHP is lazy & incompetant because of the 911 delays.
The fact that this relative was not even remotely involved with the CHP just compounds your stupidity.

As to whether you should be proud or ashamed of your relatives involvement in blocking a particle accelerator is the subject for a different thread. I suspect you may be4 just baiting Spamela with that one.

 

[Spamela]

Originally posted by: ergeorge

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: ergeorge

Originally posted by: CallTheFBI

Originally posted by: Spamela
i work for the government & i've worked in private industry.

as for producing "nothing," if you did that where i work you'd be out of a job. i know many people who work
incredibly hard & are very dedicated and nobody's going to tolerate a co-worker who isn't pulling his/her
share of the load.

Good for you. If you call 911 on a cell phone in San Diego though you get the CHP. The CHP is extremely understaffed when it comes to dispatchers and you can be on hold for as long as half an hour. That is just one example of a government agency not required to show any results.

Is this the fault of the CHP for being lazy & incompetent, or the fault of the state for not giving them enough resources to get the job done?
Don't bother answering unless you can back it up.

I can easily back it up. One of my relatives was the assistant secretary of energy during the '80s. He worked on Star Wars and was also a key player in stopping a huge particle accelerator from being built. He has told me numerous stories of government ineffieciency and incompetence. He quit working for the government and now has his own company for the reasons stated above.

LMAO, this is to funny.
Your either trolling tremendously, or one of the stupidest people I've ever encountered!
Hearsay from a relative doesn't even come close to backing up a your assertion that CHP is lazy & incompetant because of the 911 delays.
The fact that this relative was not even remotely involved with the CHP just compounds your stupidity.

As to whether you should be proud or ashamed of your relatives involvement in blocking a particle accelerator is the subject for a different thread. I suspect you may be4 just baiting Spamela with that one.

Spamela is baited by no man! (woman - maybe)

 

[Caminetto]

I have numerous friends and associates that have worked in state government jobs. Due to several different administrations wanting to reduce state payrolls they were laid off or offered early retirement. These guys are presently earning from 2 to 3 times what they were making while employed by the state, and they are just contracting their services to the state because their skills and talents were needed.

So by Boobboy's (er, CallTheFBI) evaluation they suddenly became productive citizens when they were let go, and we taxpayers have to pay at least double for the privledge of not having them on the government payroll.