Question about processors w/ broken pins

[imported_Finny]

Alright, this is the situation: I have a socket 939 processor with a pair of broken pins, each side by side. Now, I was thinking about trying to fix them or whatever at one point, but have said nevermind to that. I want to know, at this point, a few things:

1. Is there any risk whatsoever in trying to use this processor? I.E. could it harm my harddrive in any way, or damage any other part because of the missing pins, or would it simply not post because of specific missing pins?

2. I remember hearing about certain pins only being used as extra voltage things, and not being truly necessary. Is there a website that would be able to show me what pins do what, so I can tell whether or not the pins that are missing are truly necessary?

Thanks.

 

[the cobbler]

1) not likely

2) that is true, thsoe two broken pins may not be necessary. pop it in, worst that can happen is it won't boot

you should be able to have a jeweler reattach the pins for a reasonable price

 

[dealsaddict]

or you can RMA it and see if they will be willing to do it.

 

[TrevorRC]

Probably won't post.

Look around AMDs site for pin layout, it'll show you what they are for. If you lost non-essential pins, you're good!

Voltage regulation IS important regardless... you need to take it to a jeweler.

--Trevor

 

[gsethi]

I also have a S939 CPU with one broken pin (unfortunately, the broken pin is one of the data control pins). You guys think that a Jeweller should be able to fix it ?

 

[AkumaX]

i have a p4 1.6a w/ 3 broken pins. i have no idea what they do, but the CPU's still running like a champ @ 2.133ghz

 

[F1shF4t]

well a lot of the pins do nothing anyways, they are used for debugging or something like that and have no use at all in normal usage of the cpu.

 

[imported_Finny]

A jeweler's? Wow, I'll be pissed if that's all it would take to have gotten those pins fixed; I lost 'em both a while back...

Well, then I have yet another question: If I do take it to a jeweler's, would I just be able to pop some pins off of some other old processors & see if the guy can just stick them in instead, not minding any possible need to shave off some bits of the pins from the other processor? (I have a ton of old P1s and other old processors that I wouldn't mind sacraficing at this point)

Regardless, though, I shouldn't have to worry about this processor frying my HDD or whatever other part just because of the pins, right? (I'm just trying to be absolutely sure of this)

 

[imported_Finny]

(Sorry for double post)

Well, I've tried asking around a few places, and no one's willing to give it a shot yet. There's still a few more places left; However, I'm still a bit worried that I won't find anyone...

I read in another thread that someone tried using a staple, so mayble I'll try that, or perhaps I'll do the same thing with a pin from some other processor. (I'll just pop an extra pin off, shave off any bits not needed, and stick it in place) I'm still open to other suggestions, though.

 

[Billb2]

I have 2 FX55's w broken pins. The jewler stuff is BS. No one has actually found a jewler and got their processor repaired...it's an urban legend!
I've talked to 35-40 jewlers in the chicagoland area...none could do it.

I contacted a laser welder manufactirer and sought out his most sophisticated customer...he tried, but couldn't.

If any one has ACTUALLY HAD THIS DONE please pm me. For the price of 2 FX55's I'd be willing to travel just about anywhere in the country.

 

[imported_Finny]

Originally posted by: Billb2
I have 2 FX55's w broken pins. The jewler stuff is BS. No one has actually found a jewler and got their processor repaired...it's an urban legend!
I've talked to 35-40 jewlers in the chicagoland area...none could do it.

I contacted a laser welder manufactirer and sought out his most sophisticated customer...he tried, but couldn't.

If any one has ACTUALLY HAD THIS DONE please pm me. For the price of 2 FX55's I'd be willing to travel just about anywhere in the country.

Ditto here!

 

[the cobbler]

Originally posted by: Billb2
I have 2 FX55's w broken pins. The jewler stuff is BS. No one has actually found a jewler and got their processor repaired...it's an urban legend!
I've talked to 35-40 jewlers in the chicagoland area...none could do it.

I contacted a laser welder manufactirer and sought out his most sophisticated customer...he tried, but couldn't.

If any one has ACTUALLY HAD THIS DONE please pm me. For the price of 2 FX55's I'd be willing to travel just about anywhere in the country.

BS!!, lol :roll:

tons of people have had it done...just need to find a jeweler with a laser solder thingie...reattaching a CPU pin is not nearly as intricate as some of the work these guys do...

matter of fact, here's a link to somebody who will repair 1-5 broken pins for $30 and $4 shipping:
MotherBoardRepair

 

[the cobbler]

...and here's a quick fix until you can hit the jeweler...

CPU broken pin 'quick fix'

 

[Billb2]

Cobler:

You got an address or phone No.?

I've been looking for over a year.

I've been to about 10 jewlers w/laser welders including the best laser welder in the midwest (USA) and he couldn't do it.

And I know about the guy in Utah, I know his name and town. I tried calling a few people with that name, but there are about 35 of them in that one town (lotsa people with the same last name in Utah!) and no one knew of him. I'm not sending $2000 worth of chips to a PO box that doesn't answer emails. I have seen posts by people claiming success with him, but that's not enough for me.

It's like I said, it's an urban legend.

 

[HeatM1ser]

If you have broken pins, then you've probably already counted that CPU as dead.With that in mind, I saw this thread about a guy who repairs broken pins on CPU's:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=444197&highlight=pin

If it were me, I'd take the chance on a CPU which is useless until the pins are fixed.

Oh, and missing pins will not damage any part of your computer.Mobo will even be safe.The computer will either POSTR or not, but it wont damage any other components.

Anyway, I'll also PM the member who is offering this service and bring your thread to his attention...hopefully you can get those CPU's fixed...if not, send them to me and I'll try to fix em---but I wont give em back if I do! LOL

 

[VballCoach]

heya

I posted on that thread and I fixed my s478 2.4ghz P4. it had 2 pins that were totally folded over!! I straightened 1 out and the other broke off. I have a cordless pencil soldering iron with a small tip. It was hard trying to find a something that was as small as those pins...the broken pin couldn't be savaged.
I did find a wire that fit. I soldered it on, put it back in the mb and booted fine.
I've been running it for over a month now. no problems.

pm me if you'd like me to try it for you.

 

[snor]

I read on these forums that somoene put a piece of staple in the socket of the mobo and put the cpu in normally and worked. It is worth a try if nothing else worked.

 

[the cobbler]

Originally posted by: Billb2
Cobler:

You got an address or phone No.?

I've been looking for over a year.

I've been to about 10 jewlers w/laser welders including the best laser welder in the midwest (USA) and he couldn't do it.

And I know about the guy in Utah, I know his name and town. I tried calling a few people with that name, but there are about 35 of them in that one town (lotsa people with the same last name in Utah!) and no one knew of him. I'm not sending $2000 worth of chips to a PO box that doesn't answer emails. I have seen posts by people claiming success with him, but that's not enough for me.

It's like I said, it's an urban legend.

it's an urban legend because somebody can't produce you a phone number?!? go on XS.com...seen many, many individuals who have either used a jeweler, used the above guy, or jury-rigged/soldered/hacked it themselves

I have been fortunate not to have ever had this problem, so I can't help you there.
imho, you are probably going to have to physically take the CPU to the jeweler and show it to them, they're not going to have any idea what you're talking about over the phone and will thus decline.

i really don't know what to tell you...if some random overclockers can pull it off...I find it impossible to believe you can't find a professional with enough skill...

 

[NaOH]

Originally posted by: snor
I read on these forums that somoene put a piece of staple in the socket of the mobo and put the cpu in normally and worked. It is worth a try if nothing else worked.

LINK

 

[imported_Finny]

Hmm...

Well, these are all interesting ideas. I like the one that uses the wires, although I'll probably use a variation of that with a pin from a different processor (Like I've mentioned several times before), if that works anyway.

'Till then, I'll keep a look out for a jeweler's that'll be willing to fix this damn thing. I'd really rather not send it out to someone and have to wait several weeks for the guy to fix the thing... I've waited long enough! I'd rather have someone that can do it pronto, I.E. a jeweler's, or perhaps myself.

Thanks to everyone for all of the ideas, and I'll probably try a bunch of 'em out come Thursday!

 

[VballCoach]

Originally posted by: Finny
Hmm...

Well, these are all interesting ideas. I like the one that uses the wires, although I'll probably use a variation of that with a pin from a different processor (Like I've mentioned several times before), if that works anyway.

'Till then, I'll keep a look out for a jeweler's that'll be willing to fix this damn thing. I'd really rather not send it out to someone and have to wait several weeks for the guy to fix the thing... I've waited long enough! I'd rather have someone that can do it pronto, I.E. a jeweler's, or perhaps myself.

Thanks to everyone for all of the ideas, and I'll probably try a bunch of 'em out come Thursday!

why would it take anyone 'several weeks' to fix a broken pin? it took me like 8 min to solder the wire on...had to be real steady with the wire. all you have to do is tin one end of it then use tweezers to hold it in place and touch the end of the wire and it'll solder on to the empty peg. then clip off excess with fine wire cutters.

the pins for our cpus are very stiff for being so small...hard to find anything like that...you'll have to get a donor cpu then.

 

[imported_Finny]

Originally posted by: VballCoach

Originally posted by: Finny
Hmm...

Well, these are all interesting ideas. I like the one that uses the wires, although I'll probably use a variation of that with a pin from a different processor (Like I've mentioned several times before), if that works anyway.

'Till then, I'll keep a look out for a jeweler's that'll be willing to fix this damn thing. I'd really rather not send it out to someone and have to wait several weeks for the guy to fix the thing... I've waited long enough! I'd rather have someone that can do it pronto, I.E. a jeweler's, or perhaps myself.

Thanks to everyone for all of the ideas, and I'll probably try a bunch of 'em out come Thursday!

why would it take anyone 'several weeks' to fix a broken pin? it took me like 8 min to solder the wire on...had to be real steady with the wire. all you have to do is tin one end of it then use tweezers to hold it in place and touch the end of the wire and it'll solder on to the empty peg. then clip off excess with fine wire cutters.

the pins for our cpus are very stiff for being so small...hard to find anything like that...you'll have to get a donor cpu then.

I was referring to the idea of sending the processor out to someone to fix it... If I do it myself, of course it wouldn't take weeks!

 

[Mad Machinist]

I've done 30 or 40 processors at this point....I'm posting on a repaired 2.4 P4.......using a piece of gold wire I scrounged from a jeweler buddy.........and as of late had sucess robbing pins off a dead celeron (478) to fix P4's. Seems to be a more durable repair....grab 'em with a fine pair of hemostats.......and desolder....then place on the pad where the broken pin was and touch with a fine tip soldering iron. The gold wire works well.....but is a very fragile repair as it dosen,t get hot enough to tin......but it works. Just make sure you remove the remnants of the broken pin.

 

[Maximilian]

Just unplug your hard drive and see if itll boot, also nothings gonna happen if you check and see what the pin actually did. If it had somthing to do with voltage.. well then i would look into getting it fixed.

Never heard of a jewler fixing a pin, but there are people that can do it. No idea where though, but it usually involves you sending your cpu to somone and then them sending it back to you fixed, for a fee.