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d4mo

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Looks like I have alot more options than I thought. Although the problem is finding one. I don't really feel like dropping 11 grand on a new motorcycle.

Although if I could find a used SV650 for around 3500 like you say that would be pretty sweet.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: d4mo
Looks like I have alot more options than I thought. Although the problem is finding one. I don't really feel like dropping 11 grand on a new motorcycle.

Although if I could find a used SV650 for around 3500 like you say that would be pretty sweet.

With the economy the way it is right now, you have lots of great options for used bikes. A lot of people dumped their relatively new motorcycles when things got tight and, at least where I am, dealerships' used inventories are stuffed to overflowing. I picked up my 2 year old Sportster for about 60% of what a new one would cost and it only had about 2,500 miles on it.

Don't look at new bikes, now is the time to scour the used bike selection and find the bike you wanted for a lot less.

ZV
 

caspur

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Even though technically not crotch rockets, the "cruiser supersports" ie those with more relaxed riding positions, good wind protection and low end torque, such as the kawasaki zx-14 or the suzuki gsx1300 are large displacement, fast, sport-oriented bikes...more supersport than sport touring. Coming from cruisers, these are the sport bikes to get.

The whole sv650 thing on these boards is a bit confusing. These things are beginner bikes. Yes, an experienced rider can ride them quickly, but as a touring bike, track bike, whatever, their whole appeal is their cut-rate pricing. They have nothing above 9-10k RPM, NOTHING, just noise, no power. Suspension has no rebound adjustment, only preload, budget forks, budget shocks, budget tires. These are the Honda Civics of the bike world, defended to the death by fanboys, but no matter how much money you put into the SV, you aint outrunning the 1000cc supersports. Period.
 

StageLeft

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These things are like cheating on your wife with the high school senior who lives next door. It may sound like a good idea at the time, but you'll regret it later.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: caspur
Even though technically not crotch rockets, the "cruiser supersports" ie those with more relaxed riding positions, good wind protection and low end torque, such as the kawasaki zx-14 or the suzuki gsx1300 are large displacement, fast, sport-oriented bikes...more supersport than sport touring. Coming from cruisers, these are the sport bikes to get.

The whole sv650 thing on these boards is a bit confusing. These things are beginner bikes. Yes, an experienced rider can ride them quickly, but as a touring bike, track bike, whatever, their whole appeal is their cut-rate pricing. They have nothing above 9-10k RPM, NOTHING, just noise, no power. Suspension has no rebound adjustment, only preload, budget forks, budget shocks, budget tires. These are the Honda Civics of the bike world, defended to the death by fanboys, but no matter how much money you put into the SV, you aint outrunning the 1000cc supersports. Period.

the whole point being that the SV and bikes like it have many characteristics of the sportbikes but are much more comfortable and can be used in a wide variety of situations.

who said anything about trying to outrun a liter bike?
 

joesmoke

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
These things are like cheating on your wife with the high school senior who lives next door. It may sound like a good idea at the time, but you'll regret it later.

:laugh:

that was great... oh so sig-worthy
 

d4mo

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I'm not really worried about being the fast person on the road. Comfort and looks are more import. That being said I don't want to be slow either.
 

CZroe

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I crossed the country on my 2008 Ninja 250R. Of course, 250Rs are more "upright" and don't have the standard sport-bike seating. That said, I was pretty damned sore anyway.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: caspur
Even though technically not crotch rockets, the "cruiser supersports" ie those with more relaxed riding positions, good wind protection and low end torque, such as the kawasaki zx-14 or the suzuki gsx1300 are large displacement, fast, sport-oriented bikes...more supersport than sport touring. Coming from cruisers, these are the sport bikes to get.

The whole sv650 thing on these boards is a bit confusing. These things are beginner bikes. Yes, an experienced rider can ride them quickly, but as a touring bike, track bike, whatever, their whole appeal is their cut-rate pricing. They have nothing above 9-10k RPM, NOTHING, just noise, no power. Suspension has no rebound adjustment, only preload, budget forks, budget shocks, budget tires. These are the Honda Civics of the bike world, defended to the death by fanboys, but no matter how much money you put into the SV, you aint outrunning the 1000cc supersports. Period.

Nevermind, you're absolutely right. The SV is complete shit. If you don't ride a liter bike you're a i love you.
 

Greenman

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Originally posted by: d4mo
I'm not really worried about being the fast person on the road. Comfort and looks are more import. That being said I don't want to be slow either.

Comfort, check.
Looks, check.
Reasonably quick, check.
Add world class cool to that list and you'll be riding a V-Rod.

 

Greenman

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Get a BMW touring bike, speed, comfort, reliability. Nuff said.

So say's the guy sporting a shiny new DX.

How do like it now that you've been able to put a few miles on it?
 

DVad3r

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Originally posted by: Greenman
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Get a BMW touring bike, speed, comfort, reliability. Nuff said.

So say's the guy sporting a shiny new DX.

How do like it now that you've been able to put a few miles on it?

Haha yea man I'm loving it a lot, everyday I come home from work I go on a ride (unless it rains).

I've put on around 200 miles so far. Still riding it at a relaxed pace, nothing crazy, I am afterall pretty new. Just today I actually started to shift smoothly...

The bike is a beast though and I find the riding position to actually be pretty comfy. I was really turned off at first by the far reaching handlebars but when you're on the bike it's a different story. I've been on 2 hour rides non stop already and don't have much of a problem aside from wrists getting a bit stiff, but I'm assuming I have virgin wrists and they will adjust

I did open it up a couple of times full throttle, man good thing there is that support at the back for your ass or I would already be sitting on the pavement Anyone who said this bike is tame before is mistaken

All in all I'm happy, and I can't wait for the warmer weather and longer days. I'm still riding with my M1 liscense and can't ride 30 min till sundown for the next month lol, till I get my M2!

My only complaints so far are the broken fork lock and the non-accurate fuel gauge (see 1130cc threads).
 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: DVad3r

All in all I'm happy, and I can't wait for the warmer weather and longer days. I'm still riding with my M1 liscense and can't ride 30 min till sundown for the next month lol, till I get my M2!

My only complaints so far are the broken fork lock and the non-accurate fuel gauge (see 1130cc threads).

Are you getting your M2 the "traditional" way through the MTO, or are you taking a rider training course?
 

DVad3r

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Originally posted by: Imp
Originally posted by: DVad3r

All in all I'm happy, and I can't wait for the warmer weather and longer days. I'm still riding with my M1 liscense and can't ride 30 min till sundown for the next month lol, till I get my M2!

My only complaints so far are the broken fork lock and the non-accurate fuel gauge (see 1130cc threads).

Are you getting your M2 the "traditional" way through the MTO, or are you taking a rider training course?

I went to Humber a few weeks ago. Still gotta wait my 60 days till M2 though I've already passed, rode my rod to the exam lol.
 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: Imp
Originally posted by: DVad3r

All in all I'm happy, and I can't wait for the warmer weather and longer days. I'm still riding with my M1 liscense and can't ride 30 min till sundown for the next month lol, till I get my M2!

My only complaints so far are the broken fork lock and the non-accurate fuel gauge (see 1130cc threads).

Are you getting your M2 the "traditional" way through the MTO, or are you taking a rider training course?

I went to Humber a few weeks ago. Still gotta wait my 60 days till M2 though I've already passed, rode my rod to the exam lol.

Psh.. show off. Shoulda taken the car or walked humping an armoured jacket, gloves, a helmet and 5 bottles of water like everyone else (most at least)...
 

Greenman

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: Greenman
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Get a BMW touring bike, speed, comfort, reliability. Nuff said.

So say's the guy sporting a shiny new DX.

How do like it now that you've been able to put a few miles on it?

Haha yea man I'm loving it a lot, everyday I come home from work I go on a ride (unless it rains).

I've put on around 200 miles so far. Still riding it at a relaxed pace, nothing crazy, I am afterall pretty new. Just today I actually started to shift smoothly...

The bike is a beast though and I find the riding position to actually be pretty comfy. I was really turned off at first by the far reaching handlebars but when you're on the bike it's a different story. I've been on 2 hour rides non stop already and don't have much of a problem aside from wrists getting a bit stiff, but I'm assuming I have virgin wrists and they will adjust

I did open it up a couple of times full throttle, man good thing there is that support at the back for your ass or I would already be sitting on the pavement Anyone who said this bike is tame before is mistaken

All in all I'm happy, and I can't wait for the warmer weather and longer days. I'm still riding with my M1 liscense and can't ride 30 min till sundown for the next month lol, till I get my M2!

My only complaints so far are the broken fork lock and the non-accurate fuel gauge (see 1130cc threads).

The fork lock is trivial. The fuel gauge will never work right, at least not for long. I'll be having my second sender installed in the next couple weeks. Annoying as those things are, it just doesn't matter at all when your riding. There is nothing like a V-Rod, nothing that looks like it, nothing that rides like it. I've had mine almost a year and I still go out to the garage just to look at it from time to time, such a pretty machine.

Edit: I think I was the guy who said they were "tame", and they really are if you don't twist the throttle to far, but yeah, crack it all the way open and it will put the fear of God into you. Your first rolling burnout will leave you wide eyed and and a little pale. The first (and last) time I did it there were two friends of mine there (just in case I lost it and required a little assistance from the paramedics) they didn't believe I could light up the tire for that long. I couldn't believe it either, but the bike came sideways on me and if I let off throttle I would have high sided, so I hung on and made a lot of empty promises to God. I'll never try that again.
 

Koing

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This thread has made me keen on getting a sportbike

Koing
 

JDub02

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Originally posted by: d4mo
I'm casually looking at getting a motorcycle. I'm not exactly sure about what I want to get. I've never ridden a sport bike so I have a few questions for those that have.

1: Are the comfortable? They don't look like they are, seems sile such a weird position to ride in. Or does it just look weird?

They're comfortable on windy roads where you're shifting your weight often. On the highway, they're not bad once you hit 60-70 mph because you have enough wind hitting your chest to basically hold you up. Typically, they're not very comfortable for every day kind of riding.
2: Are they hard on your back/wrists?

Yes. For normal riding, your lower back and wrists will probably be sore.

3: How are they for longer trips? Like 100miles? I rarely see them on interstate so I'm guessing there is a reason why.

They're OK for long highway rides because you can get in that speed band where the wind actually takes the strain off of your back and wrists. Not nearly as comfortable as a cruiser, however.

4: Any other comments or advice?

Unless you race on a track or, like my brother, are an image-whore and like the "image" of a sport bike, there are much better bikes out there for every day kind of performance and comfort.

I've spent some quality time on my brother's Kawasaki ZX6R. I really like the bike, but it just doesn't suit my typical uses (commuting to work and leisure rides with my wife). Besides, unless we're on a straight stretch of highway where he can pull away from me with top speed, I can run right with him on my V-Star 1100. Yamaha knows how to make a cruiser with some athletic ability.
 

Keeper

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Originally posted by: d4mo
I'm casually looking at getting a motorcycle. I'm not exactly sure about what I want to get. I've never ridden a sport bike so I have a few questions for those that have.

1: Are the comfortable? They don't look like they are, seems sile such a weird position to ride in. Or does it just look weird?

2: Are they hard on your back/wrists?

3: How are they for longer trips? Like 100miles? I rarely see them on interstate so I'm guessing there is a reason why.

4: Any other coments or advice?




Sorry, I just had to smile at this...

"How are they for longer trips? Like 100miles?"

Man, thats a long warmup.... Long trip for me is 500 plus. I start to get numb butt ~550.... And I am on a full dresser....
My son had a Crotch Rocket. whenever we went out east (Montauk Point... ~80 miles) he would beg to take my other sons bike (Cruiser) if he wasnt going.

 

DVad3r

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Originally posted by: Greenman
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: Greenman
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Get a BMW touring bike, speed, comfort, reliability. Nuff said.

So say's the guy sporting a shiny new DX.

How do like it now that you've been able to put a few miles on it?

Haha yea man I'm loving it a lot, everyday I come home from work I go on a ride (unless it rains).

I've put on around 200 miles so far. Still riding it at a relaxed pace, nothing crazy, I am afterall pretty new. Just today I actually started to shift smoothly...

The bike is a beast though and I find the riding position to actually be pretty comfy. I was really turned off at first by the far reaching handlebars but when you're on the bike it's a different story. I've been on 2 hour rides non stop already and don't have much of a problem aside from wrists getting a bit stiff, but I'm assuming I have virgin wrists and they will adjust

I did open it up a couple of times full throttle, man good thing there is that support at the back for your ass or I would already be sitting on the pavement Anyone who said this bike is tame before is mistaken

All in all I'm happy, and I can't wait for the warmer weather and longer days. I'm still riding with my M1 liscense and can't ride 30 min till sundown for the next month lol, till I get my M2!

My only complaints so far are the broken fork lock and the non-accurate fuel gauge (see 1130cc threads).

The fork lock is trivial. The fuel gauge will never work right, at least not for long. I'll be having my second sender installed in the next couple weeks. Annoying as those things are, it just doesn't matter at all when your riding. There is nothing like a V-Rod, nothing that looks like it, nothing that rides like it. I've had mine almost a year and I still go out to the garage just to look at it from time to time, such a pretty machine.

Edit: I think I was the guy who said they were "tame", and they really are if you don't twist the throttle to far, but yeah, crack it all the way open and it will put the fear of God into you. Your first rolling burnout will leave you wide eyed and and a little pale. The first (and last) time I did it there were two friends of mine there (just in case I lost it and required a little assistance from the paramedics) they didn't believe I could light up the tire for that long. I couldn't believe it either, but the bike came sideways on me and if I let off throttle I would have high sided, so I hung on and made a lot of empty promises to God. I'll never try that again.

Yea man I totally agree and that's the beauty of the vrod is that you can ride it relaxed like a cruiser or you can open it up like a rocket. I haven't done any burnouts, not sure if I will (not my thing) but I can already imagine how it must of been. Just opening it up regularly is enough for me lol.

Can't wait till I install my pipes/air filter/and thunder max

And yea I go to the garage to look at it a few times a day

 

Greenman

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Oct 15, 1999
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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: Greenman
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: Greenman
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Get a BMW touring bike, speed, comfort, reliability. Nuff said.

So say's the guy sporting a shiny new DX.

How do like it now that you've been able to put a few miles on it?

Haha yea man I'm loving it a lot, everyday I come home from work I go on a ride (unless it rains).

I've put on around 200 miles so far. Still riding it at a relaxed pace, nothing crazy, I am afterall pretty new. Just today I actually started to shift smoothly...

The bike is a beast though and I find the riding position to actually be pretty comfy. I was really turned off at first by the far reaching handlebars but when you're on the bike it's a different story. I've been on 2 hour rides non stop already and don't have much of a problem aside from wrists getting a bit stiff, but I'm assuming I have virgin wrists and they will adjust

I did open it up a couple of times full throttle, man good thing there is that support at the back for your ass or I would already be sitting on the pavement Anyone who said this bike is tame before is mistaken

All in all I'm happy, and I can't wait for the warmer weather and longer days. I'm still riding with my M1 liscense and can't ride 30 min till sundown for the next month lol, till I get my M2!

My only complaints so far are the broken fork lock and the non-accurate fuel gauge (see 1130cc threads).

The fork lock is trivial. The fuel gauge will never work right, at least not for long. I'll be having my second sender installed in the next couple weeks. Annoying as those things are, it just doesn't matter at all when your riding. There is nothing like a V-Rod, nothing that looks like it, nothing that rides like it. I've had mine almost a year and I still go out to the garage just to look at it from time to time, such a pretty machine.

Edit: I think I was the guy who said they were "tame", and they really are if you don't twist the throttle to far, but yeah, crack it all the way open and it will put the fear of God into you. Your first rolling burnout will leave you wide eyed and and a little pale. The first (and last) time I did it there were two friends of mine there (just in case I lost it and required a little assistance from the paramedics) they didn't believe I could light up the tire for that long. I couldn't believe it either, but the bike came sideways on me and if I let off throttle I would have high sided, so I hung on and made a lot of empty promises to God. I'll never try that again.

Yea man I totally agree and that's the beauty of the vrod is that you can ride it relaxed like a cruiser or you can open it up like a rocket. I haven't done any burnouts, not sure if I will (not my thing) but I can already imagine how it must of been. Just opening it up regularly is enough for me lol.

Can't wait till I install my pipes/air filter/and thunder max

And yea I go to the garage to look at it a few times a day

Everybody tries it at least once, even Cupcake over at 1130 tried it. She even posted a video.
 

DVad3r

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Originally posted by: Greenman
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: Greenman
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: Greenman
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Get a BMW touring bike, speed, comfort, reliability. Nuff said.

So say's the guy sporting a shiny new DX.

How do like it now that you've been able to put a few miles on it?

Haha yea man I'm loving it a lot, everyday I come home from work I go on a ride (unless it rains).

I've put on around 200 miles so far. Still riding it at a relaxed pace, nothing crazy, I am afterall pretty new. Just today I actually started to shift smoothly...

The bike is a beast though and I find the riding position to actually be pretty comfy. I was really turned off at first by the far reaching handlebars but when you're on the bike it's a different story. I've been on 2 hour rides non stop already and don't have much of a problem aside from wrists getting a bit stiff, but I'm assuming I have virgin wrists and they will adjust

I did open it up a couple of times full throttle, man good thing there is that support at the back for your ass or I would already be sitting on the pavement Anyone who said this bike is tame before is mistaken

All in all I'm happy, and I can't wait for the warmer weather and longer days. I'm still riding with my M1 liscense and can't ride 30 min till sundown for the next month lol, till I get my M2!

My only complaints so far are the broken fork lock and the non-accurate fuel gauge (see 1130cc threads).

The fork lock is trivial. The fuel gauge will never work right, at least not for long. I'll be having my second sender installed in the next couple weeks. Annoying as those things are, it just doesn't matter at all when your riding. There is nothing like a V-Rod, nothing that looks like it, nothing that rides like it. I've had mine almost a year and I still go out to the garage just to look at it from time to time, such a pretty machine.

Edit: I think I was the guy who said they were "tame", and they really are if you don't twist the throttle to far, but yeah, crack it all the way open and it will put the fear of God into you. Your first rolling burnout will leave you wide eyed and and a little pale. The first (and last) time I did it there were two friends of mine there (just in case I lost it and required a little assistance from the paramedics) they didn't believe I could light up the tire for that long. I couldn't believe it either, but the bike came sideways on me and if I let off throttle I would have high sided, so I hung on and made a lot of empty promises to God. I'll never try that again.

Yea man I totally agree and that's the beauty of the vrod is that you can ride it relaxed like a cruiser or you can open it up like a rocket. I haven't done any burnouts, not sure if I will (not my thing) but I can already imagine how it must of been. Just opening it up regularly is enough for me lol.

Can't wait till I install my pipes/air filter/and thunder max

And yea I go to the garage to look at it a few times a day

Everybody tries it at least once, even Cupcake over at 1130 tried it. She even posted a video.

Just saw the vid. If a chick tried it then I gotta try it too, and damm wtf, chick on a vrod??? I'd like one please

 
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