Originally posted by: Hadsus
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Hardcore
Yep, generally EQ2 is a more mature game. I know in every guild i've been in, 80+% of the people in the guild are older than 25.
EQ and EQ2 is a much more social game... sure, you can solo in EQ2, but it's twice as effective to group. Because it's so heavily grouped dependent (even crafting is interdepedent... you can't make armor unless you have 4-5 other people, in different skills, making things for you), the social retards quickly get bored of the game or find it's not their type of game, and leave.
LOL if you think wow isnt social you havent played past 30...
it gets very slow and boring without a group past 30 and you will miss all the instances (dungeons) without a group you can count on...
WoW is a very social game for anyone playing it to win...
guilds are a must and very large guilds are almost mandatory if you want to be able to do things like Molten core or Black Rock Spire or Onyxia that require 40 L60s to even get in the front door...
and then locks the group for 5 days where only those SAME 40 people can attempt again...
so if you want to farm onyxia once a way is found you would need 2 groups of 40 seperate people to be able to run her 2x in a week. with the same guild...
Also the quickest way to 60 is NOT soloing its 5 man power instancing... over and over and over.... so your at least beign social with the same 5 people for 8-10 hours a day =P
There is no definitive way to enjoy WoW....or EQ 2 for that matter. "Playing to win" ????? What's that? What you're describing may be great for you but you are also describing exactly what I *don't* want to do. I don't want to get involved in huge uber level raids (sitting around wasting time while everyone arrives.....the organizing, the attack planning, et. al.), day long instancing, and farming grinds. That's EQ stuff that I've gladly put behind me. WoW is a social game.....but you don't need a large guild to enjoy it regardless of your level.
Well bro hate to break it to you.... but thats all there is at WoWs top end... all the uber encounters require 2 or more groups even at 60...
unless you plan on doing nothing but helping newbs and never getting the good gear or advancing into hero levels ..
you will be forced into raiding for any fo the higher level instances...
btw whats the wait... get 40 of your guildies and go... we usually have 40-50 L55-60 on at any time out of 80 member guild.. takes about 4 mins to get a raid on the way to the destination.