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CVSiN

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Originally posted by: Hadsus
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Hardcore
Yep, generally EQ2 is a more mature game. I know in every guild i've been in, 80+% of the people in the guild are older than 25.

EQ and EQ2 is a much more social game... sure, you can solo in EQ2, but it's twice as effective to group. Because it's so heavily grouped dependent (even crafting is interdepedent... you can't make armor unless you have 4-5 other people, in different skills, making things for you), the social retards quickly get bored of the game or find it's not their type of game, and leave.

LOL if you think wow isnt social you havent played past 30...
it gets very slow and boring without a group past 30 and you will miss all the instances (dungeons) without a group you can count on...

WoW is a very social game for anyone playing it to win...
guilds are a must and very large guilds are almost mandatory if you want to be able to do things like Molten core or Black Rock Spire or Onyxia that require 40 L60s to even get in the front door...
and then locks the group for 5 days where only those SAME 40 people can attempt again...
so if you want to farm onyxia once a way is found you would need 2 groups of 40 seperate people to be able to run her 2x in a week. with the same guild...

Also the quickest way to 60 is NOT soloing its 5 man power instancing... over and over and over.... so your at least beign social with the same 5 people for 8-10 hours a day =P

There is no definitive way to enjoy WoW....or EQ 2 for that matter. "Playing to win" ????? What's that? What you're describing may be great for you but you are also describing exactly what I *don't* want to do. I don't want to get involved in huge uber level raids (sitting around wasting time while everyone arrives.....the organizing, the attack planning, et. al.), day long instancing, and farming grinds. That's EQ stuff that I've gladly put behind me. WoW is a social game.....but you don't need a large guild to enjoy it regardless of your level.


Well bro hate to break it to you.... but thats all there is at WoWs top end... all the uber encounters require 2 or more groups even at 60...

unless you plan on doing nothing but helping newbs and never getting the good gear or advancing into hero levels ..
you will be forced into raiding for any fo the higher level instances...

btw whats the wait... get 40 of your guildies and go... we usually have 40-50 L55-60 on at any time out of 80 member guild.. takes about 4 mins to get a raid on the way to the destination.

 

Hadsus

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Who says you need to get to the top end to enjoy WoW? Who says you need the best equipment to enjoy WoW? I'm level 35 right now and have enjoyed the ride. Playing eight to ten hours/day? No way...that may work for you but outta the question for me. My time horizon ATM is level 40 where I get my mount. After that I reassess the game.
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: CVSiN

and we ALL LOVED EQ1.. we all played for almost 4 years and never got bored...
EQ2 is a pile of crap...
sorry they captured none of the majoc that EQ1 did... Infact WoW captured more about what I liked in EQ1 than EQ2 did...

Also all of the Uber guilds left that Pile of crap..
Afterlife... Conquest... Fires of Heaven... and many more are all playing WoW and providing us with the same great info they did in EQ1...

Well, your definition of uber is arguable of course, but stats show EQ1 is still more popular than even WoW. And your opinion on EQ2 is definitive fact either, as many of my friends said it was better than EQ1. Personally I didn't like WoW or EQ1, and although some things I've heard about EQ2 seem interesting I probably wouldn't like it either. Every fantasy MMORPG I've played thus far has been the same thing, different theme.
 

Babbles

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I was a hardcore EQ junkie and I would say in the high end game in EQ people were more mature. I know for a fact in our guild it was like that and we are/were a top 50 guild in EQ. We had a few PhDs, an attorny, a MD, a few science people and so forth. In fact I think our 'uber' guild only had a few college aged people and one high school kid. Talking to other high end guilds it seems that my guild was about par for the course. It just seems that a lot of people think high end gamers are all loser high school kids.

Anyhow comparing my experience with the end game in EQ with WoW, I have found that the average WoW player is much more immature than a typical EQ player. I have not played EQ2 so will not make any judgement concerning that player base. Just about everynight in WoW I nearly bang my head against the keyboard due to their sheer immature stupidity of many WoW players. I think much of it has to do that WoW is pretty stupid easy to level up in and as such I don't think there are any weed out levels were the asshat players don't advance past.
 

Yossairian

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Originally posted by: onelin
Within a guild, I know ours always had an 18+ rule (and most were 25+ and even 30's and 40's).

Are you talking about a guild in EQ2 / WoW ? If so, and you dont mind what is the name / server ? ( PM if you like )

I was in a similar guild in EQ1, and enjoyed it very much.

 

o9z

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anyone wanna take a 35 inquisitor on the Guk server off my hands? Also 18 craftsman. Lots of sellables/gold. I for one just don't have the time for EQ2 right now since it is a more group oriented game. WoW seems to be more my style at this time. If anyone wants to trade a WoW for my EQ2, let me know

I have been a longtime player of MMORPG's and I can say that EQ2 is GREAT, but more time intensive. I played EQ for 4 years and couldn't get away. They keep you hooked, that's for sure
 

miri

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According to that chart it looks like EQ1 has over 700,000 subscribers? I thought at their peak it was around 450,000, and that was at peak?
 

THG64

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I really don't know if EQ2 players are older than WoW player or vice versa. And I don't care about it. The only I do care about to have fun in the games I play. Many years ago I startet to play games in LAN. First strategy games, then the first ego shooters under DOS, then strategy games like Age of Empires and such. The problem was to get people together at same time, gather the PC equipment, install LAN. OK, there were some fun beside that like drinking beer, eating pizza and talk about women. I'm sure you know what I mean. That was in my 20's, then I moved away from my friends and things got much more difficult.

So I was happy to read about a internet game named EQ1 and the first extension of it. At that time i've got me a ISDN flatrate and started playing. Over the next years I got an addict and playing nearly 6 hours every day and started to have no other RL appointment any longer because I wanted to play with friends around the world. The big difference between the stand-alone games and the LAN games was that not only the game itself was fun but the chat with people about their RL, opinions and much more.
To cut it short, I've got to the point I dismissed from EQ1 and found back to RL. I paused about a good year, still in contact to former guildies, heared about their experience with DAoC and SWG and finally decided to join them again when our old guild was refounded in EQ2.

It's a thing of personal preference if someone like the graphics of EQx or WoW, personally I would never play a game with comic graphics. "Realistic" graphics gives me a better chance to be "in" my virtual world.
The point I don't understand is why people think a MMORPG should have a lot of solo user content. If I want to play most time solo I buy myself a stand-alone game, don't have to pay monthly costs and don't have to care about when other people are online. I play a MMORPG because I wan't to play with others. I use the solo content only if I really don't find anyone to group with, to advance an alternate character or something like that. To have fun in a MMORPG you have to take part in the social network of this virtual network via helping people in their quests and so on. If you don't want to do this you better leave the game and find your luck somewhere else. Like in real world I have to say.

To get back to the first question, are people in EQx older than WoW players. Maybe the more complex the game mechanics is the more older have the players to be to find fun in the game. As you advance in level you have to advance in your game playing skill too and have to know about the abilities of other classes and the mobs you want to encounter, need to work together and against the other players. Any progress of others is your progress in the future.

A few words to EQ2: It's not just EQ1 with better graphics, it's different in many ways. Every player has to learn new tactics, the former EQ1 player like the very new player. Every class can now offer a benefit to the group on cost of solo abilities but many people are just not aware of it and think in EQ1 rules. Me too at the start. But things get better every day I play. Hopefully not again as addsict some day. ;-)

Thomas
 

CVSiN

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Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: THG64
I really don't know if EQ2 players are older than WoW player or vice versa. And I don't care about it. The only I do care about to have fun in the games I play. Many years ago I startet to play games in LAN. First strategy games, then the first ego shooters under DOS, then strategy games like Age of Empires and such. The problem was to get people together at same time, gather the PC equipment, install LAN. OK, there were some fun beside that like drinking beer, eating pizza and talk about women. I'm sure you know what I mean. That was in my 20's, then I moved away from my friends and things got much more difficult.

So I was happy to read about a internet game named EQ1 and the first extension of it. At that time i've got me a ISDN flatrate and started playing. Over the next years I got an addict and playing nearly 6 hours every day and started to have no other RL appointment any longer because I wanted to play with friends around the world. The big difference between the stand-alone games and the LAN games was that not only the game itself was fun but the chat with people about their RL, opinions and much more.
To cut it short, I've got to the point I dismissed from EQ1 and found back to RL. I paused about a good year, still in contact to former guildies, heared about their experience with DAoC and SWG and finally decided to join them again when our old guild was refounded in EQ2.

It's a thing of personal preference if someone like the graphics of EQx or WoW, personally I would never play a game with comic graphics. "Realistic" graphics gives me a better chance to be "in" my virtual world.
The point I don't understand is why people think a MMORPG should have a lot of solo user content. If I want to play most time solo I buy myself a stand-alone game, don't have to pay monthly costs and don't have to care about when other people are online. I play a MMORPG because I wan't to play with others. I use the solo content only if I really don't find anyone to group with, to advance an alternate character or something like that. To have fun in a MMORPG you have to take part in the social network of this virtual network via helping people in their quests and so on. If you don't want to do this you better leave the game and find your luck somewhere else. Like in real world I have to say.

To get back to the first question, are people in EQx older than WoW players. Maybe the more complex the game mechanics is the more older have the players to be to find fun in the game. As you advance in level you have to advance in your game playing skill too and have to know about the abilities of other classes and the mobs you want to encounter, need to work together and against the other players. Any progress of others is your progress in the future.

A few words to EQ2: It's not just EQ1 with better graphics, it's different in many ways. Every player has to learn new tactics, the former EQ1 player like the very new player. Every class can now offer a benefit to the group on cost of solo abilities but many people are just not aware of it and think in EQ1 rules. Me too at the start. But things get better every day I play. Hopefully not again as addsict some day. ;-)

Thomas

WoW is just as complex as EQ2 or even EQ1...
anyone that says otherwise never tried to get a raid to Molten Core or Onyixa which are 4x harder than the planes and the original dragons were in EQ and require 40 peeps to attempt... you cannot zerg with more than you could in EQ1 or 2... 5 man groups are max group except for raids... when you can link up to 40 peeps...

even more complex is the Molten Core and Onxyia LOCK the instance to those people for 7 days.. so You cant just replace people that leave the raid with new peeps like we can in EQ or EQ2... every attempt has to be made with the same people for 7 days...

if they arnt online you go with an empty slot...

I dunno why peeps say that WOW is simplistic or is aimed solely at soloerers... those people are generally not doing epic zones... or just soloed to 60...

my entire guild is age 25-45 80 members.. most that we meet online seem to be pretty much in this age group .. although i have met several 16-18 year olds
 
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