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shocksyde

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Jun 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

That's a ridiculous statement, and you know it.
proving my point are you? :laugh:

Which part of my statement was unintelligent or disrespectful?

Look for fights much?
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

That's a ridiculous statement, and you know it.
proving my point are you? :laugh:

Which part of my statement was unintelligent or disrespectful?

Look for fights much?
keep going. . .
 

shocksyde

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Arcadio
This is not a parody thread. It is a legitimate question posed by me, inspired by that other thread. This is absolutely serious, not a joke.

Let's say that Jesus comes back to our Earth tomorrow, and that there is zero doubt that it is really the Son of God. What would atheists say about this event? Would they accept there is a God, or would they come up with weird quantum fluctuation explanations for such an event?



What if he doesnt come down to earth tomorrow, does that make you feel stupid?

No. Why would it? Jesus will come some day, but nobody knows when...

How exactly do you know that?

 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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I'd probably be pretty damn scared. The God in the Bible is, at best, a spoiled child, at worst, severely psychotic and schizophrenic.
"Yes, I'll help you and watch over you. Now here comes a Category 5 hurricane, followed by, oh, let's say an earthquake. But remember, I love you all! Well, most of you. Some of you. Know what, I actually don't like any of you anymore. I'm sending a flood to kill everyone, except for one family. They're ok. And the animals will die too, cause they're wicked, I guess. But not fish and dolphins and whales. They'll survive a flood anyway, so I guess they're not wicked.

Oh, and I know I gave you guys this big Universe, and all this conflicting evidence of really old fossils, an old Earth, and an old, expanding Universe, but I'm only going to give you a single human lifespan to figure out the nature of existence. Well, some of you. Some of you will of course die before you really even have self-awareness, so, I guess it kind of sucks for those guys. You know, I've got this contract thing with Satan, and we've got a quota, so some folks have to go to Hell."


Originally posted by: MotF Bane
If there is truly zero doubt, then God has proven his existence in a concrete undeniable manner, and therefore I would accept there to be a God.
But where's your faith?


Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
I'd put on my "I for one welcome our new Holy Overlord" t-shirt.
"Jesus is coming. Look busy!"


Originally posted by: Arcadio
No. Why would it? Jesus will come some day, but nobody knows when...
"Hey, it's God again. I forgot to give Jesus the schedule for the "Welcome Back" party, so he might be a few eons late. He's somewhere in subspace right now, and there's no time there. I'm uh, actually not sure how long he might be away. I know, me not know, being omniscient and all, kind of weird. And I sort of am Jesus, too, but not really. So yeah, it's kind of going to be one of those big surprise things. Sometime. And actually, even if I do find out when he's coming back, I probably won't tell you about it anyway."

 

racolvin

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I can't see how you would be "proving" that he is the son of god. However, if I were to stipulate that for the sake of discussion I still would not be "worshiping" him in the highest until after its proven that there aren't any equally impressive beings out there that other folks call "god" that compete with him, since Christianity isn't exactly the only "god" being worshipped out there in the world.
 

shocksyde

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Jun 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

That's a ridiculous statement, and you know it.
proving my point are you? :laugh:

Which part of my statement was unintelligent or disrespectful?

Look for fights much?
keep going. . .

Haha what is this, middle school? You wanna pull on my pony tail? Do you like me? Circle Yes or No.
 

Arcadio

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Jun 5, 2007
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Of couse, by "zero doubt" I don't mean that Jesus will be put through any scientific validation test. I mean that the general consensus of most of the population on Earth after a few weeks or months will be that Jesus is indeed back on Earth, probably because of widespread miracles, convincing sermons, and other events similar to the Biblical accounts of the time when Jesus was on Earth.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
61,713
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Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

That's a ridiculous statement, and you know it.
proving my point are you? :laugh:

Which part of my statement was unintelligent or disrespectful?

Look for fights much?
keep going. . .

Haha what is this, middle school? You wanna pull on my pony tail? Do you like me? Circle Yes or No.
you have a pony tail? shens.
 

Vehemence

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Jan 25, 2008
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Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

That's a ridiculous statement, and you know it.
proving my point are you? :laugh:

Which part of my statement was unintelligent or disrespectful?

Look for fights much?
keep going. . .

Haha what is this, middle school? You wanna pull on my pony tail? Do you like me? Circle Yes or No.

Ask for tits pls, she loves that
 

Arcadio

Diamond Member
Jun 5, 2007
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Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Arcadio
This is not a parody thread. It is a legitimate question posed by me, inspired by that other thread. This is absolutely serious, not a joke.

Let's say that Jesus comes back to our Earth tomorrow, and that there is zero doubt that it is really the Son of God. What would atheists say about this event? Would they accept there is a God, or would they come up with weird quantum fluctuation explanations for such an event?



What if he doesnt come down to earth tomorrow, does that make you feel stupid?

No. Why would it? I believe Jesus will come some day, but nobody knows when...

How exactly do you know that?

Sorry. Fixed.
 

xSauronx

Lifer
Jul 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

That's a ridiculous statement, and you know it.
proving my point are you? :laugh:

Which part of my statement was unintelligent or disrespectful?

Look for fights much?
keep going. . .

Haha what is this, middle school? You wanna pull on my pony tail? Do you like me? Circle Yes or No.
youre both wasting your time. shes trolling on this one, because she clearly hasnt got anything else worth saying

and youre falling for it. just give up.

edit: as it is, im not sure what it would take for me to believe jesus was here and the son of god. im also not sure that id care that much.

id find the responses of other religious groups interesting, including the christian sects who called for the return of jesus, but predicted it would happen in one way, when it ended up happening in another.
 

KeithTalent

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I would think they'd say 'whoops', or 'my bad', maybe 'you got me Jesus, nice work'.

KT
 

shocksyde

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Jun 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde

Haha what is this, middle school? You wanna pull on my pony tail? Do you like me? Circle Yes or No.
you have a pony tail? shens.

You can't see my ponytail, but if you BELIEVE it's there, then it is. Sounds silly, no?

Well shit, now I do fall into your stereotype.
 

torpid

Lifer
Sep 14, 2003
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Originally posted by: Arcadio
Of couse, by "zero doubt" I don't mean that Jesus will be put through any scientific validation test. I mean that the general consensus of most of the population on Earth after a few weeks or months will be that Jesus is indeed back on Earth, probably because of widespread miracles, convincing sermons, and other events similar to the Biblical accounts of the time when Jesus was on Earth.

Are the miracles put through scientific validation or are we just to accept that some dude in chile saw jesus turn water into wine?
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

That's a ridiculous statement, and you know it.
proving my point are you? :laugh:

Which part of my statement was unintelligent or disrespectful?

Look for fights much?
keep going. . .

Haha what is this, middle school? You wanna pull on my pony tail? Do you like me? Circle Yes or No.
youre both wasting your time. shes trolling on this one, because she clearly hasnt got anything else worth saying

and youre falling for it. just give up.
thanks for joining in the fray, and you think you're any better?

actually, he was proving what i had said. i was just allowing him to further prove it.
 

krunchykrome

Lifer
Dec 28, 2003
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Im an athiest. If that happened though, I'd be a believer.

Show me evidence and hard facts, and I'll believe you. Theory and suggestions dont hold much weight in my world.
 

jonks

Lifer
Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Im an athiest. If that happened though, I'd be a believer.

Show me evidence and hard facts, and I'll believe you. Theory and suggestions dont hold much weight in my world.

This, however, chances of encountering alien life at some point /=/ probability that creator of the entire universe sends son to visit third planet in sol star system to show them the way
 

Arcadio

Diamond Member
Jun 5, 2007
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Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: Arcadio
Of couse, by "zero doubt" I don't mean that Jesus will be put through any scientific validation test. I mean that the general consensus of most of the population on Earth after a few weeks or months will be that Jesus is indeed back on Earth, probably because of widespread miracles, convincing sermons, and other events similar to the Biblical accounts of the time when Jesus was on Earth.

Are the miracles put through scientific validation or are we just to accept that some dude in chile saw jesus turn water into wine?

Yes, proven miracles. Of course, you only need conclusive proof of one or two miracles to determine it is really Jesus.
 
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Originally posted by: Arcadio
Of couse, by "zero doubt" I don't mean that Jesus will be put through any scientific validation test. I mean that the general consensus of most of the population on Earth after a few weeks or months will be that Jesus is indeed back on Earth, probably because of widespread miracles, convincing sermons, and other events similar to the Biblical accounts of the time when Jesus was on Earth.

Aye, but then how will we know he is Jesus if we can't draw out his blood and see if it be grog?
 

jonks

Lifer
Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Originally posted by: Arcadio
Of couse, by "zero doubt" I don't mean that Jesus will be put through any scientific validation test. I mean that the general consensus of most of the population on Earth after a few weeks or months will be that Jesus is indeed back on Earth, probably because of widespread miracles, convincing sermons, and other events similar to the Biblical accounts of the time when Jesus was on Earth.

Aye, but then how will we know he is Jesus if we can't draw out his blood and see if it be grog?

Well the jews are ready to do their part to nail that guy back up again. All powerful my ass.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

That's a ridiculous statement, and you know it.
proving my point are you? :laugh:

Which part of my statement was unintelligent or disrespectful?

Look for fights much?
keep going. . .

Haha what is this, middle school? You wanna pull on my pony tail? Do you like me? Circle Yes or No.
youre both wasting your time. shes trolling on this one, because she clearly hasnt got anything else worth saying

and youre falling for it. just give up.
thanks for joining in the fray, and you think you're any better?

actually, he was proving what i had said. i was just allowing him to further prove it.

Actually you were proving that you are unintelligent or disrespectful (or a troll).

 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

That's a ridiculous statement, and you know it.
proving my point are you? :laugh:

Which part of my statement was unintelligent or disrespectful?

Look for fights much?
keep going. . .

Haha what is this, middle school? You wanna pull on my pony tail? Do you like me? Circle Yes or No.
youre both wasting your time. shes trolling on this one, because she clearly hasnt got anything else worth saying

and youre falling for it. just give up.
thanks for joining in the fray, and you think you're any better?

actually, he was proving what i had said. i was just allowing him to further prove it.

Actually you were proving that you are unintelligent or disrespectful (or a troll).
I don't think so. It wasn't my intent.
 

cliftonite

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Jul 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

That's a ridiculous statement, and you know it.
proving my point are you? :laugh:

Which part of my statement was unintelligent or disrespectful?

Look for fights much?
keep going. . .

Haha what is this, middle school? You wanna pull on my pony tail? Do you like me? Circle Yes or No.
youre both wasting your time. shes trolling on this one, because she clearly hasnt got anything else worth saying

and youre falling for it. just give up.
thanks for joining in the fray, and you think you're any better?

actually, he was proving what i had said. i was just allowing him to further prove it.

He wasnt proving any of your points. You would see it if you took those holy glasses off.

 
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