Originally posted by: moshquerade
holy glasses? here comes the disrespect i was speaking of. you guys are making it too easy.Originally posted by: cliftonite
Originally posted by: moshquerade
thanks for joining in the fray, and you think you're any better?Originally posted by: xSauronx
youre both wasting your time. shes trolling on this one, because she clearly hasnt got anything else worth sayingOriginally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
keep going. . .Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
proving my point are you? :laugh:Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"
i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.
That's a ridiculous statement, and you know it.
Which part of my statement was unintelligent or disrespectful?
Look for fights much?
Haha what is this, middle school? You wanna pull on my pony tail? Do you like me? Circle Yes or No.
and youre falling for it. just give up.
actually, he was proving what i had said. i was just allowing him to further prove it.
He wasnt proving any of your points. You would see it if you took those holy glasses off.
Originally posted by: Arcadio
This is not a parody thread. It is a legitimate question posed by me, inspired by that other thread. This is absolutely serious, not a joke.
Let's say that Jesus comes back to our Earth tomorrow, and that there is zero doubt that it is really the Son of God. What would atheists say about this event? Would they accept there is a God, or would they come up with weird quantum fluctuation explanations for such an event?
Originally posted by: CKent
Most atheists are either rebelling kids or are angrily exorcising themselves of religious indoctrination.Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"
i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.
I just find it kind of amusing that pragmatism and logic in terms of spiritual belief makes someone abnormal.
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: CKent
Most atheists are either rebelling kids or are angrily exorcising themselves of religious indoctrination.Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"
i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.
No. Most of us are educated and open-minded. Rather than brainlessly believing whatever our parents believed because their parents believed it and their parents before them believed it ad infinitum we've questioned, we've asked for evidence to support the beliefs, we've learned where the fairy tales came from, we discovered which fairy tales they're based on and we've chosen the logical, sensible and practical alternative. What we are is openly scornful of braindead zombies who believe in a book because the book tells them to believe in it.
Any person is allowed to believe in unicorns, dragons, elves, pixies, ghosts, sea monsters or invisible men in the sky. As long as they remain quiet about those misguided fairy tales I'll leave them alone and they can have their delusions in peace. But the minute they force those delusions on me and start questioning why I don't share those delusions is the minute I start to ridicule them.
Originally posted by: Atheus
I don't even know what to say - do you people really exist? Is it just an American thing, or are you all 12 years old, or what? Sometimes I despair reading this forum. I honestly do.
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Atheus
I don't even know what to say - do you people really exist? Is it just an American thing, or are you all 12 years old, or what? Sometimes I despair reading this forum. I honestly do.
Actually, no. Religious people can be found all over the world, unfortunatly.
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: CKent
Most atheists are either rebelling kids or are angrily exorcising themselves of religious indoctrination.Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"
i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.
No. Most of us are educated and open-minded. Rather than brainlessly believing whatever our parents believed because their parents believed it and their parents before them believed it ad infinitum we've questioned, we've asked for evidence to support the beliefs, we've learned where the fairy tales came from, we discovered which fairy tales they're based on and we've chosen the logical, sensible and practical alternative. What we are is openly scornful of braindead zombies who believe in a book because the book tells them to believe in it.
Any person is allowed to believe in unicorns, dragons, elves, pixies, ghosts, sea monsters or invisible men in the sky. As long as they remain quiet about those misguided fairy tales I'll leave them alone and they can have their delusions in peace. But the minute they force those delusions on me and start questioning why I don't share those delusions is the minute I start to ridicule them.
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Atheus
I don't even know what to say - do you people really exist? Is it just an American thing, or are you all 12 years old, or what? Sometimes I despair reading this forum. I honestly do.
Actually, no. Religious people can be found all over the world, unfortunatly.
Not even just the religeous people - this is a serious contender for the stupidest converstion ever.
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: CKent
Most atheists are either rebelling kids or are angrily exorcising themselves of religious indoctrination.Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"
i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.
No. Most of us are educated and open-minded. Rather than brainlessly believing whatever our parents believed because their parents believed it and their parents before them believed it ad infinitum we've questioned, we've asked for evidence to support the beliefs, we've learned where the fairy tales came from, we discovered which fairy tales they're based on and we've chosen the logical, sensible and practical alternative. What we are is openly scornful of braindead zombies who believe in a book because the book tells them to believe in it.
Any person is allowed to believe in unicorns, dragons, elves, pixies, ghosts, sea monsters or invisible men in the sky. As long as they remain quiet about those misguided fairy tales I'll leave them alone and they can have their delusions in peace. But the minute they force those delusions on me and start questioning why I don't share those delusions is the minute I start to ridicule them.
Right, right... and how old are you? By 25 you'll outgrow it and come to terms with the fact you have beliefs, maybe specific (eg. Christianity), maybe noncommittal (eg. deist).
Real atheists aren't so angry about it, and it's unfortunate people like you give us such a bad name. Although I would like to be able to buy liquor 24/7 including Sundays... :frown:
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: CKent
Most atheists are either rebelling kids or are angrily exorcising themselves of religious indoctrination.Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"
i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.
No. Most of us are educated and open-minded. Rather than brainlessly believing whatever our parents believed because their parents believed it and their parents before them believed it ad infinitum we've questioned, we've asked for evidence to support the beliefs, we've learned where the fairy tales came from, we discovered which fairy tales they're based on and we've chosen the logical, sensible and practical alternative. What we are is openly scornful of braindead zombies who believe in a book because the book tells them to believe in it.
Any person is allowed to believe in unicorns, dragons, elves, pixies, ghosts, sea monsters or invisible men in the sky. As long as they remain quiet about those misguided fairy tales I'll leave them alone and they can have their delusions in peace. But the minute they force those delusions on me and start questioning why I don't share those delusions is the minute I start to ridicule them.
Right, right... and how old are you? By 25 you'll outgrow it and come to terms with the fact you have beliefs, maybe specific (eg. Christianity), maybe noncommittal (eg. deist).
Real atheists aren't so angry about it, and it's unfortunate people like you give us such a bad name. Although I would like to be able to buy liquor 24/7 including Sundays... :frown:
Originally posted by: Arcadio
This is not a parody thread. It is a legitimate question posed by me, inspired by that other thread. This is absolutely serious, not a joke.
Let's say that Jesus comes back to our Earth tomorrow, and that there is zero doubt that it is really the Son of God. What would atheists say about this event? Would they accept there is a God, or would they come up with weird quantum fluctuation explanations for such an event?
Originally posted by: Alphathree33
SCENARIO:
Jesus walks the earth
MY REACTION:
STEP 1: Verify that it is not any of the following:
-- U.S. government project
-- elaborate prank
-- illusion
-- etc.
STEP 2: Rethink every thought I've ever had about anything, ever.
This will be necessary because suddenly I'm living in a world in which an invisible man in the sky with a pseudo-human son is in charge, which is quite different from the world in which I am currently living.
I can't really predict what I'd do next. Probably start attempting to ask this Jesus character a lot of questions. I wouldn't even know where to begin. I'd probably start with some "feeling out the territory" questions like:
"What happens if I stab you?"
"Is there a Higgs Boson?"
"When will humanity find the cure for cancer?" Follow up: "Why did God make cancer?" Follow up: "Why did God make cells that sometimes divide improperly." OK, this line of questioning would probably lead into several hours worth of questions on the origins and age of the universe.
Oh, and this one's been REALLY bugging me but:
"Is the Riemann hypothesis provable?" Possible follow up: "What is the proof?"
OH, and "Who assassinated JFK" Follow up: "Why did God have JFK assassinated?"
I'd need probably YEARS with Jesus to get all of this sorted out.
Of course, the scientific community would probably just get together and appoint a representative to ask Jesus questions. So maybe I'd just listen to the answers to those.
I might also hide and stock up on ammunition and food since all non-christian religions have either been proved wrong, or at least proven that they have a competing god. And I certainly wouldn't want to get in the middle of a war between many gods.
If they're just plain wrong, then the religious people might fight. If they're all right, then the gods might fight. Either way it would be scary. Unless Jesus protected us or something.
Originally posted by: Arcadio
This is not a parody thread. It is a legitimate question posed by me, inspired by that other thread. This is absolutely serious, not a joke.
Let's say that Jesus comes back to our Earth tomorrow, and that there is zero doubt that it is really the Son of God. What would atheists say about this event? Would they accept there is a God, or would they come up with weird quantum fluctuation explanations for such an event?
Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: Alphathree33
SCENARIO:
Jesus walks the earth
MY REACTION:
STEP 1: Verify that it is not any of the following:
-- U.S. government project
-- elaborate prank
-- illusion
-- etc.
STEP 2: Rethink every thought I've ever had about anything, ever.
This will be necessary because suddenly I'm living in a world in which an invisible man in the sky with a pseudo-human son is in charge, which is quite different from the world in which I am currently living.
I can't really predict what I'd do next. Probably start attempting to ask this Jesus character a lot of questions. I wouldn't even know where to begin. I'd probably start with some "feeling out the territory" questions like:
"What happens if I stab you?"
"Is there a Higgs Boson?"
"When will humanity find the cure for cancer?" Follow up: "Why did God make cancer?" Follow up: "Why did God make cells that sometimes divide improperly." OK, this line of questioning would probably lead into several hours worth of questions on the origins and age of the universe.
Oh, and this one's been REALLY bugging me but:
"Is the Riemann hypothesis provable?" Possible follow up: "What is the proof?"
OH, and "Who assassinated JFK" Follow up: "Why did God have JFK assassinated?"
I'd need probably YEARS with Jesus to get all of this sorted out.
Of course, the scientific community would probably just get together and appoint a representative to ask Jesus questions. So maybe I'd just listen to the answers to those.
I might also hide and stock up on ammunition and food since all non-christian religions have either been proved wrong, or at least proven that they have a competing god. And I certainly wouldn't want to get in the middle of a war between many gods.
If they're just plain wrong, then the religious people might fight. If they're all right, then the gods might fight. Either way it would be scary. Unless Jesus protected us or something.
That looks like an excellent movie plot.
Originally posted by: walrus
Let's say that Jesus doesn't comes back to our Earth tomorrow. What would you say about this event?