Question for atheists

[Turkish]

How does his comeback prove the existence of "god"?

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: xSauronx

Originally posted by: shocksyde

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: shocksyde

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: shocksyde

Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

That's a ridiculous statement, and you know it.

proving my point are you? :laugh:

Which part of my statement was unintelligent or disrespectful?

Look for fights much?

keep going. . .

Haha what is this, middle school? You wanna pull on my pony tail? Do you like me? Circle Yes or No.

youre both wasting your time. shes trolling on this one, because she clearly hasnt got anything else worth saying

and youre falling for it. just give up.

thanks for joining in the fray, and you think you're any better?

actually, he was proving what i had said. i was just allowing him to further prove it.

He wasnt proving any of your points. You would see it if you took those holy glasses off.

holy glasses? here comes the disrespect i was speaking of. you guys are making it too easy.

Respect goes both ways. I have no need to respect a troll with a history of baiting others.

 

[tfcmasta97]

Originally posted by: Arcadio
This is not a parody thread. It is a legitimate question posed by me, inspired by that other thread. This is absolutely serious, not a joke.

Let's say that Jesus comes back to our Earth tomorrow, and that there is zero doubt that it is really the Son of God. What would atheists say about this event? Would they accept there is a God, or would they come up with weird quantum fluctuation explanations for such an event?

I'd ask him what he thinks of all the retarded twats that have fucked with his rep...
unless he's into the whole little boy buffet

But i wont have to because if there was a god because no god in the christian sense would punish us with your existence

 

[shocksyde]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

Most atheists are either rebelling kids or are angrily exorcising themselves of religious indoctrination.

I just find it kind of amusing that pragmatism and logic in terms of spiritual belief makes someone abnormal.

I love the generalities game! My turn!

Most religious people are conformist, brainless sheep that believe in things with absolutely no proof!

 

[shocksyde]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

Most atheists are either rebelling kids or are angrily exorcising themselves of religious indoctrination.

No. Most of us are educated and open-minded. Rather than brainlessly believing whatever our parents believed because their parents believed it and their parents before them believed it ad infinitum we've questioned, we've asked for evidence to support the beliefs, we've learned where the fairy tales came from, we discovered which fairy tales they're based on and we've chosen the logical, sensible and practical alternative. What we are is openly scornful of braindead zombies who believe in a book because the book tells them to believe in it.

Any person is allowed to believe in unicorns, dragons, elves, pixies, ghosts, sea monsters or invisible men in the sky. As long as they remain quiet about those misguided fairy tales I'll leave them alone and they can have their delusions in peace. But the minute they force those delusions on me and start questioning why I don't share those delusions is the minute I start to ridicule them.

You said it better than I.

 

[Atheus]

I don't even know what to say - do you people really exist? Is it just an American thing, or are you all 12 years old, or what? Sometimes I despair reading this forum. I honestly do.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Atheus
I don't even know what to say - do you people really exist? Is it just an American thing, or are you all 12 years old, or what? Sometimes I despair reading this forum. I honestly do.

Actually, no. Religious people can be found all over the world, unfortunatly.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Atheus
I don't even know what to say - do you people really exist? Is it just an American thing, or are you all 12 years old, or what? Sometimes I despair reading this forum. I honestly do.

Actually, no. Religious people can be found all over the world, unfortunatly.

Not even just the religeous people - this is a serious contender for the stupidest converstion ever.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

Most atheists are either rebelling kids or are angrily exorcising themselves of religious indoctrination.

No. Most of us are educated and open-minded. Rather than brainlessly believing whatever our parents believed because their parents believed it and their parents before them believed it ad infinitum we've questioned, we've asked for evidence to support the beliefs, we've learned where the fairy tales came from, we discovered which fairy tales they're based on and we've chosen the logical, sensible and practical alternative. What we are is openly scornful of braindead zombies who believe in a book because the book tells them to believe in it.

Any person is allowed to believe in unicorns, dragons, elves, pixies, ghosts, sea monsters or invisible men in the sky. As long as they remain quiet about those misguided fairy tales I'll leave them alone and they can have their delusions in peace. But the minute they force those delusions on me and start questioning why I don't share those delusions is the minute I start to ridicule them.

Right, right... and how old are you? By 25 you'll outgrow it and come to terms with the fact you have beliefs, maybe specific (eg. Christianity), maybe noncommittal (eg. deist).

Real atheists aren't so angry about it, and it's unfortunate people like you give us such a bad name. Although I would like to be able to buy liquor 24/7 including Sundays... :frown:

 

[Psynaut]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Atheus
I don't even know what to say - do you people really exist? Is it just an American thing, or are you all 12 years old, or what? Sometimes I despair reading this forum. I honestly do.

Actually, no. Religious people can be found all over the world, unfortunatly.

Not even just the religeous people - this is a serious contender for the stupidest converstion ever.

I agree. Asking a question like that and pretending it is a serious and respectful question is absurd.

The OP's question is exactly like asking the following provacative question, only slightly more veiled: What if all the people who believed that women were honest and trustworth human beings were suddenly proved wrong by a new brain scan that proved that all women were liars and cheats. Would the men who trusted their wives and girlfriends keep rationalizing their beliefs and continue living in the same delusion they always had, or would the accept the truth that all women are scum?

The OP's question is as loaded, presumptuous and dumb as the one I just made up above.

 

[zerocool84]

If it was proven that he was "The One" then I would ask him why he is so f'd up and kills so many innocent people and lets so many bad things happen in the world. I would get into a debate with him.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

Most atheists are either rebelling kids or are angrily exorcising themselves of religious indoctrination.

No. Most of us are educated and open-minded. Rather than brainlessly believing whatever our parents believed because their parents believed it and their parents before them believed it ad infinitum we've questioned, we've asked for evidence to support the beliefs, we've learned where the fairy tales came from, we discovered which fairy tales they're based on and we've chosen the logical, sensible and practical alternative. What we are is openly scornful of braindead zombies who believe in a book because the book tells them to believe in it.

Any person is allowed to believe in unicorns, dragons, elves, pixies, ghosts, sea monsters or invisible men in the sky. As long as they remain quiet about those misguided fairy tales I'll leave them alone and they can have their delusions in peace. But the minute they force those delusions on me and start questioning why I don't share those delusions is the minute I start to ridicule them.

Right, right... and how old are you? By 25 you'll outgrow it and come to terms with the fact you have beliefs, maybe specific (eg. Christianity), maybe noncommittal (eg. deist).

Real atheists aren't so angry about it, and it's unfortunate people like you give us such a bad name. Although I would like to be able to buy liquor 24/7 including Sundays... :frown:

Older than 25 zippy. Raised a Catholic and attended 12 years of Catholic schools. What I outgrew is the fairy tales. I outgrew Santa Claus. I outgrew the Easter Bunny. I outgrew the Tooth Fairy. I outgrew the boogieman, old women who live in shoes and cats in hats. I also outgrew invisible magical men who live in the sky. Good luck getting there yourself someday. Remember, there once were people who believed in Apollo and Zeus, Thor and Odin, Jupiter and Juno, Anu and Gilgamesh, Ra and Osiris. You laugh at them because their beliefs were based on fear and were passed down from one uneducated superstitious fool to another one that didn't know any better. That's PRECISELY why we laugh at you. You're not even smart enough to know that your fairy tales were stolen directly from those fairy tales. At least their fairy tales were original creations. Yours are just cheap copies.

 

[shocksyde]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: moshquerade
"intelligent, respectful atheists"

i'm trying to fathom this. some are intelligent, most i've encountered here aren't respectful.

Most atheists are either rebelling kids or are angrily exorcising themselves of religious indoctrination.

No. Most of us are educated and open-minded. Rather than brainlessly believing whatever our parents believed because their parents believed it and their parents before them believed it ad infinitum we've questioned, we've asked for evidence to support the beliefs, we've learned where the fairy tales came from, we discovered which fairy tales they're based on and we've chosen the logical, sensible and practical alternative. What we are is openly scornful of braindead zombies who believe in a book because the book tells them to believe in it.

Any person is allowed to believe in unicorns, dragons, elves, pixies, ghosts, sea monsters or invisible men in the sky. As long as they remain quiet about those misguided fairy tales I'll leave them alone and they can have their delusions in peace. But the minute they force those delusions on me and start questioning why I don't share those delusions is the minute I start to ridicule them.

Right, right... and how old are you? By 25 you'll outgrow it and come to terms with the fact you have beliefs, maybe specific (eg. Christianity), maybe noncommittal (eg. deist).

Real atheists aren't so angry about it, and it's unfortunate people like you give us such a bad name. Although I would like to be able to buy liquor 24/7 including Sundays... :frown:

I'm over 25 and still don't believe it. There goes your theory.

 

[ohtwell]

I don't think this person would have the ability to prove, with zero doubt, they were the son of God. I mean, seriously, are you going to get God to come down here and take a paternity test to prove that fact? And if you got "God" to do that, how would you prove that person was God?

Edit: Removed comments equating God to a Unicorn.


: ) Amanda

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: Arcadio
This is not a parody thread. It is a legitimate question posed by me, inspired by that other thread. This is absolutely serious, not a joke.

Let's say that Jesus comes back to our Earth tomorrow, and that there is zero doubt that it is really the Son of God. What would atheists say about this event? Would they accept there is a God, or would they come up with weird quantum fluctuation explanations for such an event?

Hello god. May I ask why you gave us the mary jane? And if you are so obliged would you share a bit o joy with me?

 

[Alphathree33]

SCENARIO:
Jesus walks the earth

MY REACTION:

STEP 1: Verify that it is not any of the following:
-- U.S. government project
-- elaborate prank
-- illusion
-- etc.

STEP 2: Rethink every thought I've ever had about anything, ever.

This will be necessary because suddenly I'm living in a world in which an invisible man in the sky with a pseudo-human son is in charge, which is quite different from the world in which I am currently living.

I can't really predict what I'd do next. Probably start attempting to ask this Jesus character a lot of questions. I wouldn't even know where to begin. I'd probably start with some "feeling out the territory" questions like:

"What happens if I stab you?"
"Is there a Higgs Boson?"
"When will humanity find the cure for cancer?" Follow up: "Why did God make cancer?" Follow up: "Why did God make cells that sometimes divide improperly." OK, this line of questioning would probably lead into several hours worth of questions on the origins and age of the universe.

Oh, and this one's been REALLY bugging me but:
"Is the Riemann hypothesis provable?" Possible follow up: "What is the proof?"

OH, and "Who assassinated JFK" Follow up: "Why did God have JFK assassinated?"

I'd need probably YEARS with Jesus to get all of this sorted out.

Of course, the scientific community would probably just get together and appoint a representative to ask Jesus questions. So maybe I'd just listen to the answers to those.

I might also hide and stock up on ammunition and food since all non-christian religions have either been proved wrong, or at least proven that they have a competing god. And I certainly wouldn't want to get in the middle of a war between many gods.

If they're just plain wrong, then the religious people might fight. If they're all right, then the gods might fight. Either way it would be scary. Unless Jesus protected us or something.

 

[Arcadio]

Originally posted by: Alphathree33
SCENARIO:
Jesus walks the earth

MY REACTION:

STEP 1: Verify that it is not any of the following:
-- U.S. government project
-- elaborate prank
-- illusion
-- etc.

STEP 2: Rethink every thought I've ever had about anything, ever.

This will be necessary because suddenly I'm living in a world in which an invisible man in the sky with a pseudo-human son is in charge, which is quite different from the world in which I am currently living.

I can't really predict what I'd do next. Probably start attempting to ask this Jesus character a lot of questions. I wouldn't even know where to begin. I'd probably start with some "feeling out the territory" questions like:

"What happens if I stab you?"
"Is there a Higgs Boson?"
"When will humanity find the cure for cancer?" Follow up: "Why did God make cancer?" Follow up: "Why did God make cells that sometimes divide improperly." OK, this line of questioning would probably lead into several hours worth of questions on the origins and age of the universe.

Oh, and this one's been REALLY bugging me but:
"Is the Riemann hypothesis provable?" Possible follow up: "What is the proof?"

OH, and "Who assassinated JFK" Follow up: "Why did God have JFK assassinated?"

I'd need probably YEARS with Jesus to get all of this sorted out.

Of course, the scientific community would probably just get together and appoint a representative to ask Jesus questions. So maybe I'd just listen to the answers to those.

I might also hide and stock up on ammunition and food since all non-christian religions have either been proved wrong, or at least proven that they have a competing god. And I certainly wouldn't want to get in the middle of a war between many gods.

If they're just plain wrong, then the religious people might fight. If they're all right, then the gods might fight. Either way it would be scary. Unless Jesus protected us or something.

That looks like an excellent movie plot.

 

[CrimsonChaos]

Originally posted by: Arcadio
This is not a parody thread. It is a legitimate question posed by me, inspired by that other thread. This is absolutely serious, not a joke.

Let's say that Jesus comes back to our Earth tomorrow, and that there is zero doubt that it is really the Son of God. What would atheists say about this event? Would they accept there is a God, or would they come up with weird quantum fluctuation explanations for such an event?

You're sounding a little biased. And why do you care what atheists would think? Isn't it more important to concentrate on what you would do/think should this event occur? Or perhaps you should wonder what you would do/think if it were proven "with zero doubt" that there is no god nor son of god.

The fact is some people believe in a god and some people don't. Both of these groups of people are either too close-minded, proud, lazy or incapable to consider anything that conflicts with what they've convinced themselves so thoroughly of and that they cling so dearly to. The rest of us are open to various possibilities and continue to question, explore, and deliberate the countless conditions that could exist.

 

[Wuffsunie]

I would admit that I was wrong. Athiests, not being bound by strict dogma, can admit that they're wrong.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: Arcadio

Originally posted by: Alphathree33
SCENARIO:
Jesus walks the earth

MY REACTION:

STEP 1: Verify that it is not any of the following:
-- U.S. government project
-- elaborate prank
-- illusion
-- etc.

STEP 2: Rethink every thought I've ever had about anything, ever.

This will be necessary because suddenly I'm living in a world in which an invisible man in the sky with a pseudo-human son is in charge, which is quite different from the world in which I am currently living.

I can't really predict what I'd do next. Probably start attempting to ask this Jesus character a lot of questions. I wouldn't even know where to begin. I'd probably start with some "feeling out the territory" questions like:

"What happens if I stab you?"
"Is there a Higgs Boson?"
"When will humanity find the cure for cancer?" Follow up: "Why did God make cancer?" Follow up: "Why did God make cells that sometimes divide improperly." OK, this line of questioning would probably lead into several hours worth of questions on the origins and age of the universe.

Oh, and this one's been REALLY bugging me but:
"Is the Riemann hypothesis provable?" Possible follow up: "What is the proof?"

OH, and "Who assassinated JFK" Follow up: "Why did God have JFK assassinated?"

I'd need probably YEARS with Jesus to get all of this sorted out.

Of course, the scientific community would probably just get together and appoint a representative to ask Jesus questions. So maybe I'd just listen to the answers to those.

I might also hide and stock up on ammunition and food since all non-christian religions have either been proved wrong, or at least proven that they have a competing god. And I certainly wouldn't want to get in the middle of a war between many gods.

If they're just plain wrong, then the religious people might fight. If they're all right, then the gods might fight. Either way it would be scary. Unless Jesus protected us or something.

That looks like an excellent movie plot.

not enough lesbian scenes.

 

[Evander]

Even if god did exist I would consider him no better than a deadbeat dad and not worthy of my worship (I'm not trying to be offensive to Christians here, I'm just saying that's how I personally feel).

On the other hand, if Jesus came down and said all the teachings about God being an all powerful and perfect creator are false and that Jesus never intended that message to be transferred, but nevertheless god DID actually create the universe and man, things would be more interesting. Especially if it was also revealed that god did not and does not seek worship, but merely wanted to create life and a place for life to exist.

You can challenge an atheist that his beliefs may be very wrong, but in doing so you must also be willing to accept the challenge that your teachings about god may be very wrong, even if god was proven to exist.

 

[fishjie]

i dont believe in god because there is no evidence. if such evidence was presented, then i'd believe it. this holds true for santa, tooth fairies, big foot, and so on.

 

[JulesMaximus]

He'd have to be one charming mutherfucker for me to believe let me tell you. 1000 times more charming than that folksy idiot we have as President right now.

 

[walrus]

Let's say that Jesus doesn't comes back to our Earth tomorrow. What would you say about this event?

 

[Arcadio]

Originally posted by: walrus
Let's say that Jesus doesn't comes back to our Earth tomorrow. What would you say about this event?

I would just keep waiting, just like I've been doing so far..