Question for PC gamers...

[Anomaly1964]

IMO I think the PC is better cause of the exclusives and mostly because I am a hardware snoob (780 water cooled sli and water cooled i7 4790k and 750d case) also I am COMPLETELY USELESS with a console controller. I can't stand controllers

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[paperfist]

There's a ROI on PC gaming?

Even with the video card expense, being able to run 3 monitors helps me tons with work and multitasking. So it's not a total loss.

 

[Chevron]

And first let me say that I myself am a PC gamer...

But do you start asking yourself "Am I crazy for wanting/needing to buy a new $350 GPU just so that I can play the newest game when the (game) looks and plays pretty darn good on a console that costs about the same as my video card alone?"

Do you ever begin to question your ROI?

I mean when you look at games like Borderlands you realize that TOP END graphics are NOT a requirement for a game to be fun. Would Dragon Age: Inquisition be any LESS fun with Borderland style graphics...?

And I KNOW you can do so much more than play games on your PC but do you think there might be a MIDDLE GROUND device at a price point between the CONSOLE ($395) and a nice gaming rig ($1300) some day?

If they would come out with a quality, reliable mouse and game pad (WSAD, Run, Jump keys) for consoles, I would be VERY tempted...

I don't know, I just feel there comes a point where FPS and shadows begin...over shadowing...the FUN of gaming.

Hope to hear your thoughts...

Thanks!

If you really want to talk ROI, pc gaming is cheaper once yo ufactor in the cost of games.

but even so, I will always have a PC for it's other uses. So popping in a GPU isn't much cost. Besides the fun factor of building the PC myself. That also needs to be factored in.

 

[Chevron]

IMO I think the PC is better cause of the exclusives and mostly because I am a hardware snoob (780 water cooled sli and water cooled i7 4790k and 750d case) also I am COMPLETELY USELESS with a console controller. I can't stand controllers

And I have a 360 Controller for those games where it works better. Not having a controller means you're missing out on some awesome games like Brothers and super meat boy.

 

[ice.sergio24]

And I have a 360 Controller for those games where it works better. Not having a controller means you're missing out on some awesome games like Brothers and super meat boy.

Wasn't bashing on controllers, it is just that believe it or not I can't use a controller, I just don't get how they work

 

[Blanky]

I still dont understand PC games, can someone explain to me the benefits of PC gaming?

If you're a whore for graphics PCs offer the only way to get the best graphics.

If you're not, there are still many games on PC not available on consoles. It's really that simple.

I will say a lot of people have incredibly expensive gaming rigs but seem to take personal offense at the idea of spending a few hundred on a console, which lets them play yet more games (in many cases games not available on a PC). The truly evolved gamer has multiple platforms.

 

[Blanky]

Devs don't care. Consoles will have none of that and if it will be on PC it will be a sloppy bolted on mess. You'll get a port and you'll be lucky if it isn't capped at 30FPS. Fancy pants new CPUs and new DX and games are still made for a slow old Atom equivalent CPU in "next-gen" consoles. DDR4 is irrelevant either way. The way Gsync is going it may as well be as important as 3D. What games need now are originality not annual copy paste sequels that barely run (if at all) on PC. We need more Planescape and less Ass Creed.

EDIT: That disparity is full there. If the Witcher 3 was PC only and developed around 780Ti's/980s and 16GB RAM we'd have a truly next gen game. Instead (and predictably) consoles hold everything back. Again.

The problem with this post is it presumes that, lacking consoles, the games that are "held back" on the PC would continue to exist on the PC. A game like GTA V looks worse on the PC than it could if PC was all it was developed for, but lacking the massive market of consoles the developers would never have sold enough on PC alone to even create the game. So, while you're right consoles hold back, they also prop up; they make a game exist that otherwise wouldn't.

 

[Morbus]

I just started playing Dead State and The Long Dark. Both awesome games (the later is still in early access) and both are PC exclusives.

Eat it consoles! In your face!

 

[bystander36]

I play PC games because of the mouse, and due to 30 FPS just not being enough for me. It's fine if you prefer consoles, just don't try and convince me I'm missing out, as I've tried it (I have a PS3), but I just never could enjoy many types of games on a console. Side scroll, Super Mario bros. type games are about the only ones I enjoy on a console. Racing games with company are also fun, otherwise, I prefer PC.

 

[DigDog]

i would never play tekken on a PC. or Pro Evo, or any racing game. that stuff belongs on consoles, you just can't get the same enjoyment unless you are sitting on the couch.

i guess, PC games are the ones i try to *beat*. Console games are the ones i try to enjoy.

 

[tential]

i would never play tekken on a PC. or Pro Evo, or any racing game. that stuff belongs on consoles, you just can't get the same enjoyment unless you are sitting on the couch.

i guess, PC games are the ones i try to *beat*. Console games are the ones i try to enjoy.

Why can't I play a PC game on the couch?

 

[escrow4]

Why can't I play a PC game on the couch?

Because the HUD is not designed around a fat old TV. I tried playing on a crappy old 360 (Red Dead Redemption) and got eye strain in 5min. It just feels wrong playing a big old TV, too much to focus on.

 

[bystander36]

i would never play tekken on a PC. or Pro Evo, or any racing game. that stuff belongs on consoles, you just can't get the same enjoyment unless you are sitting on the couch.

i guess, PC games are the ones i try to *beat*. Console games are the ones i try to enjoy.

Racing games are pretty awesome on a PC, if you have a wheel and peddles. High FPS makes it much more fluid than on a console, not to mention the better graphics (at least in the past). Trying to play on the PC with a keyboard may suck, but they do make peripherals for that.

 

[DigDog]

you can do anything you want, you can even play dance dance revolution on a keyboard, but it's not the same experience. also, being so far from the screen makes me less accurate, "worse" if you will, but this has the effect of lowering my tryhardism and raising my fun.

 

[Bateluer]

i would never play tekken on a PC. or Pro Evo, or any racing game. that stuff belongs on consoles, you just can't get the same enjoyment unless you are sitting on the couch.

i guess, PC games are the ones i try to *beat*. Console games are the ones i try to enjoy.

I can never get comfortable trying to game on my couch. The computer chair has this thing called lumbar support. The couch does not.

Why can't I play a PC game on the couch?

There's nothing stopping you from doing exactly that.

 

[tential]

I can never get comfortable trying to game on my couch. The computer chair has this thing called lumbar support. The couch does not.

There's nothing stopping you from doing exactly that.

I know there isn't I just hate when people make the claim. I game from my couch lol on my pc. Haven't gamed at a desk in 5 years.

 

[DigDog]

practical example:

if i tried to play quake live from a couch, i would suck. i need the fine motor control, the accuracy i get from being in a specific position relating to my screen, in a certain posture.
this also stresses me; a couch doesnt stress me.

just figure out the inverse, couch = more fun, desk = more skill.

 

[tential]

practical example:

if i tried to play quake live from a couch, i would suck. i need the fine motor control, the accuracy i get from being in a specific position relating to my screen, in a certain posture.
this also stresses me; a couch doesnt stress me.

just figure out the inverse, couch = more fun, desk = more skill.

That's the great part about a PC. You can use a mouse/keyboard at a desk if you want. My computer isn't bolted to the floor so if I really wanted to, I'd just pick it up, place it at a desk, and use it there.

 

[Bateluer]

That's the great part about a PC. You can use a mouse/keyboard at a desk if you want. My computer isn't bolted to the floor so if I really wanted to, I'd just pick it up, place it at a desk, and use it there.

Or just spend the 10 dollars on a longer HDMI cable and connect it over to the TV?

I've been thinking of doing exactly that for older games whose UIs don't scale well to my higher resolution 1440p monitors. NWN2, for example, text is too tiny for my old man eyes.

 

[tential]

Or just spend the 10 dollars on a longer HDMI cable and connect it over to the TV?

I've been thinking of doing exactly that for older games whose UIs don't scale well to my higher resolution 1440p monitors. NWN2, for example, text is too tiny for my old man eyes.

HDMI cable is only able to be 25 feet long and even then it's luck of the draw. I bought one banking on this and it doesn't work regularly. So if your HDTV is actually far away from your PC, you gotta pick it up and move it. Of course try the longer cable first though!

I use Steam In Home Streaming as much as possible though to avoid this. After trying Steam In Home Streaming, I can't stand Origin/Uplay for forcing me on their platforms (Dragon Age Inquisition....) when I'd rather use Steam so I can get In Home Streaming. I probably wouldn't even play DA:I if it was free right now. I don't play at my main PC.

 

[RockinZ28]

I prefer using home theater seats fully reclined with either a m/kb or controller depending on the game.

If consoles could do 1080p@60fps on all games with very high pc settings I'd most likely get one or both, as long as something like the XIM4 worked to my liking in games. If consoles had native kb/m support and did 1080p@60fps, I would not build another pc.

 

[Bateluer]

I prefer using home theater seats fully reclined with either a m/kb or controller depending on the game.

Where's your ass groove?

 

[blastingcap]

And first let me say that I myself am a PC gamer...

But do you start asking yourself "Am I crazy for wanting/needing to buy a new $350 GPU just so that I can play the newest game when the (game) looks and plays pretty darn good on a console that costs about the same as my video card alone?"

Do you ever begin to question your ROI?

I mean when you look at games like Borderlands you realize that TOP END graphics are NOT a requirement for a game to be fun. Would Dragon Age: Inquisition be any LESS fun with Borderland style graphics...?

And I KNOW you can do so much more than play games on your PC but do you think there might be a MIDDLE GROUND device at a price point between the CONSOLE ($395) and a nice gaming rig ($1300) some day?

If they would come out with a quality, reliable mouse and game pad (WSAD, Run, Jump keys) for consoles, I would be VERY tempted...

I don't know, I just feel there comes a point where FPS and shadows begin...over shadowing...the FUN of gaming.

Hope to hear your thoughts...

Thanks!

Have you ever done word processing, spreadsheets, Photoshop/Lightroom, etc. on a console? ROI on consoles is bad.

First, consoles are mainly good for playing games and media streaming, whereas PCs are much more flexible. A cost-effective PC build without GPU isn't going to cost much more than a console, and you can simply buy a budget GPU and still get a good gaming experience. If you don't play a lot of games, you don't even need to upgrade your GPU necessarily, if you are willing to tolerate lower resolution and framerates off your iGPU.

Second, PC games tend to cost less at launch and during after-launch sales due to lack of licensing fee. So if you play a lot of games, consoles will cost you extra for each and every game.

Third, some games do not translate well to the couch. FPSes rely on crutches like quasi-auto-aim. RTSes like Starcraft? Forget it. RPGs? Only if the interface is dumbed down. Even strategy games like Civ are better on PC. You can always plug in an XBox controller or joystick or wheel to a PC if you don't like kb/mouse/trackball.

Fourth, if you are into XBL/PSN that will cost you monthly. You don't need subscriptions for PC unless it's to an MMORPG or something in which case you may need to pay that for console MMORPGs too.

Fifth, you don't NEED to buy a $350 GPU. You could buy something more cost effective and sell/upgrade every few years. GPUs don't retain value that well, but neither do used consoles.

Sixth, you haven't lived until you experienced six pr0n scenes going on simultaneously (split-screen times 3 monitors). Just kidding. Sorta. For real though, multi-monitor is good for productivity scenarios and it's something consoles can't realistically do, nor would they excel at it even if you could, due to crappy input device (gamepad).

Seventh, mods. Think Skyrim, for example.

 

[blastingcap]

it is not an opinion that consoles are a far more even playing field than pc, it is a fact

unless you get a bunch of PC's all with the same exact specs, keyboard, mouse, etc, then its not even close

and that doesnt happen in the real world, everybody has a different PC

Do you whine about differences in TV input/response times as well? About consoles with different controllers? About how some people's internet connections are better than others'? If I were playing for money as a pro or something, I'd rather have a lower-spec'd PC with lower ping than higher-spec PC with higher ping. Assuming lower spec was still capable of actually running the game properly, and that's not hard--turn down settings. Back when I was more hardcore about such things, I routinely turned my graphics settings to minimum to reduce distractions, smoke effects, etc. As I understand it, pro gamers still do that to gain fps and still prefer CRTs too.

Normal people play to have fun.

Furthermore, not all games are multiplayer. Even among multiplayer games, guess what, companies like Blizzard already disable things like Eyefinity on SC2. DotA same thing. They didn't even make it optional.

Every hobby I do that costs more than my gaming (which still takes up most of my time spare time in some cases).

Musical/band gear
Motorcycles
Camping
Pinball Machines

Of those, pretty none have any real ROI except maybe the pinball machines given the current lacking of them. In any hobby though you do it for the love, not the getting your money back.

I never thought camping was that expensive until after a trip a couple of years ago when my gf and I backpacked up and down a fourteener and we got into a discussion of how we saw like one black person during the entire trip. I told her that it was partly due to cost and income disparities. She was skeptical until I totaled up the entire bill including permits, gasoline, all the gear we took with us (tents, sleeping bags, food, clothing, headlamps, etc.), and so on. The total was something like $1300. Granted the cost of the longer-lasting stuff like tents should be spread out over multiple trips, but still.

 

[blastingcap]

Please delete, I'll merge my posts.