question for the Christians - immortality

[SparkyJJO]

Well there wasn't that plan because he knew all along they were gonna do the wrong thing. Duh.

 

[qliveur]

How do you solve a problem like religion?

How do you take a cloud and pin it down?

 

[Malak]

Yup, I saw that, and I said what I did because the Christian god most definitely does fit the description of "willing to condemn all humans for all of eternity to being mortals for something one human being did {thousands/millions} of years ago and thereby subject all generations to mutations and the like clearly lacks ethics and doesn't care about any human beings enough to actually interact with them." - unless you get get really creative about reading the Bible. When "interpretation" gets thrown into the mix and anything can be a metaphor, then anything can mean whatever you want it to mean.

Thus my not-so-subtle implication was that what you were saying does not seem to be supported by Genesis.

But what you are saying is neither supported by genesis nor a description of the Christian God at all.

 

[Jeff7]

But what you are saying is neither supported by genesis nor a description of the Christian God at all.

I do believe there would be some tiny amount of disagreement with that, unless you're reading from a book that is quite exceptionally different than the Christian bible I'm aware of.

 

[Malak]

I do believe there would be some tiny amount of disagreement with that, unless you're reading from a book that is quite exceptionally different than the Christian bible I'm aware of.

Any disagreement would be incorrect. The idea that spawned Christianity in the first place was that God doesn't want to condemn anyone and we are immortal

 

[Jeff7]

Any disagreement would be incorrect. The idea that spawned Christianity in the first place was that God doesn't want to condemn anyone and we are immortal

So that's why we're born with original sin, and that's why everyone who once was alive and who is currently alive is or will be dead, and are therefore not immortal.

If that's not what God wants, he needs to put together a new QA department.

 

[Malak]

So that's why we're born with original sin, and that's why everyone who once was alive and who is currently alive is or will be dead, and are therefore not immortal.

If that's not what God wants, he needs to put together a new QA department.

What is original sin? Is that some catholic myth like angels with wings and the devil being named lucifer?

Discussions of life and death and the concept of immortality are difficult when you add the concept of living outside the physical plane.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Any disagreement would be incorrect.

See this is the problem with sectarianism in religion. What he suggested is correct according to a great many Christians. Just like each of them, however, you assume that yours is the only "correct" interpretation -- as though you alone possessed the power of infallible interpretation.

If you have a problem with the consequences Jeff7 derived from beliefs professed by other actual Christians, I suggest you take it up with them.

 

[Nik]

My not so subtle implication was that the description given does not apply to any god that I have seen in any religion except atheism. Typical troll rants are typical.

us: accurate illustration of the god in the bible, with obvious flaws
you: NUH UH!! NUH UH! NUH UH!

 

[Malak]

Only threads like this can feel so empty, because the exact same group of trollhards come out of the woodwork and every one of them is on my ignore list.

But y u mad though?

 

[Nik]

You're one of them, Malak.

We ask you questions you know you can't answer and you just avoid them conveniently. You spout your theistic bullshit in each of these threads so why can't we counter your bullshit without being called trolls?