Question [GTX 1080 FE] (620euro new) VS [2 X GTX 980ti] (620euro used like new) ???

[Nhirlathothep]

which one to buy?

 

[Elixer]

That depends on what you are doing now, gaming? If so, which ones? Something else?
Need more details.
Also, what CPU do you got?

 

[Bacon1]

Two 980 Ti are much more powerful, FE is overpriced garbage cooler.

 

[gradoman]

Wow. I would probably just sit it out and wait to see if the prices come down. Consider the 1070?

 

[Nhirlathothep]

That depends on what you are doing now, gaming? If so, which ones? Something else?
Need more details.
Also, what CPU do you got?

Wow. I would probably just sit it out and wait to see if the prices come down. Consider the 1070?

it s for my gaming pc, i only turn it on to play. (once every 2 months sadly)
i m not going to upgrade it, i only have to chose between

- gtx 1080 new (reference design)
- 2 x 980ti used but like new, with warranty


same price 620euro.


- i don t overclock cards
- i only use reference design


prices are good, 620e is a good deal and i don t think it s a good idea to wait for lower prices. i m not interested in 1070.

Two 980 Ti are much more powerful, FE is overpriced garbage cooler.

so you prefer 2 x980ti? i only use reference coolers, and no oc for me
tnx!

 

[Silverforce11]

I would buy the 2x 980Ti, use 1 980Ti and overclock it, sell the other 980Ti and profit, to save it for a 1080Ti later.

You won't notice any difference in games since the performance of an OC 980Ti is close to a 1080.

 

[Nhirlathothep]

I would buy the 2x 980Ti, use 1 980Ti and overclock it, sell the other 980Ti and profit, to save it for a 1080Ti later.

You won't notice any difference in games since the performance of an OC 980Ti is close to a 1080.

i understand your point and it s a good advice man


but i m not interested in "making profit" selling cards and i don t oc cards (usually i only set a simple 10% oc in 30sec and leave it as it is forever)


i don t like to have two cards and worst of all 6gb-only cards.
(would prefer 2x titanx, but atm they cost more than the double)

and gtx 1080 seems a cutted chip too, but 980ti/new titan are so far away, can t wait

 

[MajinCry]

The 980 ti isn't far away. The 1080 is just a bit faster by ~30%, no?

Besides, AMD is the company to buy a card from, seeing as how NVidia abandons each previous generation and lets 'em get killed in new games, whereas AMD actually does their job.

 

[guskline]

Since I actually own both the GTX 1080 FE, now with an EK block, and the GTX 980 TI SC with an EK block I disagree that the FE is "overpriced garbage". I actually disassembled the cooling housing to put on my waterblock and was extremely impressed with the quality of the air cooler.

Bacon1, have you actually seen or used a GTX 1080 FE like I have?

 

[Nhirlathothep]

The 980 ti isn't far away. The 1080 is just a bit faster by ~30%, no?

Besides, AMD is the company to buy a card from, seeing as how NVidia abandons each previous generation and lets 'em get killed in new games, whereas AMD actually does their job.

(30% a bit )

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please, don t drag me into this

i have tons of amd cards btw

 

[Nhirlathothep]

Since I actually own both the GTX 1080 FE, now with an EK block, and the GTX 980 TI SC with an EK block I disagree that the FE is "overpriced garbage". I actually disassembled the cooling housing to put on my waterblock and was extremely impressed with the quality of the air cooler.

Bacon1, have you actually seen or used a GTX 1080 FE like I have?

interesting

 

[RussianSensation]

which one to buy?

GTX980TI SLI

1. When you need the extra horsepower, a 2nd 980Ti will add 50-90% at 1440p/4k. OTOH, the extra 25% performance of 1080 over 980Ti will move you from 45 fps to 55 fps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdN9DxR-JVQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrRhV6qfrr0

2. Since it's 620 EUR for 2x 980Ti, it'll be very easy to resell each 980Ti for 275 Euro in 10-12 months from now when you can just upgrade to Big Vega or Big Pascal. OTOH, the minute those cards drop, a 620 Euro 1080 will lose 150-200 Euro if you don't time the resale right. In fact, the extra premium you'd pay for the FE card right now over the cheapest after-market 1080 card is going to be an automatic loss in resale value in 12 months alone because right now the FE premium is an artificial Early Adopter Tax mark-up. Once AIB cards are available in volume, the FE card is more or less going to lose 70-100 Euro in resale even this year.

3. You can mine ethereum on the side with each 980Ti while right now ethereum mining is broken on Windows with Pascal cards. Using this strategy, the 980Tis will be paid off in 6-12 months.

You should also consider overclocking the 980Ti as it's literally 5-10 minutes using MSI AB, moving the offset sliders and increasing power target and that's it. :thumbsup:

Look at this review of 1080 SLI. Subtract 25-30% off the scores of 1080 SLI and you'll see that 980TI SLI would crush a 1080 at higher resolution gaming:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_1080_2_way_sli_review,13.html

 

[nitromullet]

Given your propensity towards Alienware and a disdain for overclocking and non-reference cards, you seem like the type of person who is looking for a hassle free experience and don't mind paying a bit extra for it. I would suggest buying the fastest single card can you can get, which right now is the the GTX 1080.

 

[MrTeal]

Given your propensity towards Alienware and a disdain for overclocking and non-reference cards, you seem like the type of person who is looking for a hassle free experience and don't mind paying a bit extra for it. I would suggest buying the fastest single card can you can get, which right now is the the GTX 1080.

I'd agree with this. I don't necessarily think that the 1080FE is the best choice, but it might be the best choice for you.

 

[sxr7171]

i understand your point and it s a good advice man


but i m not interested in "making profit" selling cards and i don t oc cards (usually i only set a simple 10% oc in 30sec and leave it as it is forever)


i don t like to have two cards and worst of all 6gb-only cards.
(would prefer 2x titanx, but atm they cost more than the double)

and gtx 1080 seems a cutted chip too, but 980ti/new titan are so far away, can t wait

Don't bother with Titan X if you don't overclock. The only way a 980ti beats it is if it is not overclocked. You would leave around 40% performance on the table if you don't overclock it. But the same applies for the 980ti except many are factory overclocked.

I'd agree that the 1080 is your best option. But some lucky guy is going to get those 980ti.

 

[MajinCry]

(30% a bit )

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please, don t drag me into this

i have tons of amd cards btw

Well, I'm the sorta guy that thinks the 7850 doesn't have any noteworthy performance hitters to upgrade to, so my view is probably quite skewed.

Hell, I don't think there's anything worth upgrading to from my Phenom II.

 

[desprado]

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Mirrors-Edge-Catalyst-Spiel-55642/Specials/Benchmarks-Test-1197847/

GTX 980 TI is beast of its own kid. Most review site benchmark reference version ,which is garbage. Normally GTX 980 Ti custom version is 15% faster then reference version.

 

[Headfoot]

Buying only reference makes absolutely no sense at all. Aftermarket versions are nearly universally better, full stop.

Especially don't buy a Flounders Edition rip off version. Unless you want an ineffective and/or loud cooler for $100 more.

2x 980 Ti is going to be significantly faster than a single 1080 when SLI works. If you're a day 1 gamer, go 1080 (NOT FE. Get a well respected aftermarket brand like EVGA). If you dont usually play day 1 games the 2x 980 Ti will be better. Don't get a reference 980 ti either. Aftermarket 980 Tis are VASTLY better, read any review and you will discover they are 1) faster, 2) cooler, 3) quieter. There is literally 0 downside to buying aftermarket (for non-watercooled builds) and a ton of positives.

6 GB is not going to limit you at all. I have no idea where you're getting the idea that 6gb isn't enough, this is totally unsupported by facts.

 

[moonbogg]

Buying only reference makes absolutely no sense at all. Aftermarket versions are nearly universally better, full stop.

Especially don't buy a Flounders Edition rip off version. Unless you want an ineffective and/or loud cooler for $100 more.

2x 980 Ti is going to be significantly faster than a single 1080 when SLI works. If you're a day 1 gamer, go 1080 (NOT FE. Get a well respected aftermarket brand like EVGA). If you dont usually play day 1 games the 2x 980 Ti will be better. Don't get a reference 980 ti either. Aftermarket 980 Tis are VASTLY better, read any review and you will discover they are 1) faster, 2) cooler, 3) quieter. There is literally 0 downside to buying aftermarket (for non-watercooled builds) and a ton of positives.

6 GB is not going to limit you at all. I have no idea where you're getting the idea that 6gb isn't enough, this is totally unsupported by facts.

He probably got freaked out by the mirror's edge Vram 8gb FUBAR Nvidia threw at us.

 

[Raising]

I could still sell more 980ti's for around 420~450€ right now in my euro country.

620€ for two is a steal.

 

[Headfoot]

He probably got freaked out by the mirror's edge Vram 8gb FUBAR Nvidia threw at us.

Probably right. Whats a rule without an exception?

 

[Timmah!]

I face similar conundrum given the recent Nvidia price-drop to GTX980Ti´s. Evga Hybrids at my prefered HW (r)etailer are now 610 EUROs, cca 500 without VAT, which is what i am going to buy it for. I was looking at 2 watercooled 1080s (either MSI or Evga), but now i am bit uneasy - obviously i have to wait for them for god knows how long more, while the MSI one is currently listed at 900(!!!) EUROS - 750 w/o VAT. I keep wondering if the performance increase between 980Ti and 1080 and the bigger VRAM (which is actually important to me) is worth added 250 EUROs (500 for 2 cards...) in case of going for 1080s...

Funny thing, if i wanted the perf level of 980Ti for similar price, i could go into 1070(s) - and would have 8GB VRAM on top of it.... but somehow, i dont know, if i were about to buy Pascal, i dont want worse than 1080

 

[Dave2150]

The 980 ti isn't far away. The 1080 is just a bit faster by ~30%, no?

Besides, AMD is the company to buy a card from, seeing as how NVidia abandons each previous generation and lets 'em get killed in new games, whereas AMD actually does their job.

The only reason AMD still optimizes Hawaii is that they were forced to refresh Hawaii into Grenada (390 series).

In the past both vendors have treated previous architectures similarly, when they have both been able to launch a new generation of GPU's. Sadly for AMD, they were not able to launch a new mainstream line of GPU's last generation, so recycled Hawaii.

 

[Headfoot]

The only reason AMD still optimizes Hawaii is that they were forced to refresh Hawaii into Grenada (390 series).

Source?

Every review I've seen shows all GCN architectures improving over time, including 7xx0 series.

 

[Grooveriding]

1080, nvidia's history of support for anything but their newest architecture is poor. 980ti will perform like crap compared to the new cards six months from now. Also SLI seems a near non-starter for DX12, not worth it.