Question on shifting manual transmission

miri

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Ok, when changing gears from like second to third or like third to fourth I thought you were always supposed to let go of the gas pedal completely. I read somewhere that you do not release the gas but adjust the the gas? Does that mean you give it more gas or less gas or what? Would this wear out the clutch?

I always released the gas completley when shifting gears, does this hurt the engine or clutch?
 

vshah

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you're supposed to match the revs to the speed/gear you will be shifting into, this applies for up and downshifting. upshifting, if you time it right, you can take your foot all the way off the gas, usually i just lift it a bit...

-VIvan
 

miri

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Ok, when you say ease does that mean let go slowly but completely or just partially? Like are you supposed to still be pushing the gas pedal lightly when pushing the clutch and changing gears?
 

SWScorch

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I release the accelerator completely, then clutch in, shift, cluth out while applying just enough gas that it doesn't jerk. I don't shift quick enough for me to leave the gas pedal depressed.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: miri
Ok, when you say ease does that mean let go slowly but completely or just partially? Like are you supposed to still be pushing the gas pedal lightly when pushing the clutch and changing gears?

You don't have to, you could let off the gas completely when the clutch is engaged.
 

miri

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Ok, so if I am still pushing the gas pedal and then push the clutch and switch gears this does not cause extra wear? Sorry, I think I learned how to drive manual the wrong way.
 

rickn

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shifting a manual transmission should be seamless, if you're actually thinking about what you're doing, you're doing it all wrong
 

TrueBlueLS

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Originally posted by: miri
Ok, so if I am still pushing the gas pedal and then push the clutch and switch gears this does not cause extra wear? Sorry, I think I learned how to drive manual the wrong way.

It'll still cause wear on the lining of the clutch. It's like trying to shift with your gas pedal all the way down with the clutch. Either let off the gas and ease back into it or back off the gas a little bit.
 

miri

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I am just asking a question. I was taught to left go of the gas completly when shifting gears and now I find out that I am doing it wrong, that is why I am asking.

So is it better on the clutch to release the gas pedal completly when shifting?
 

cronos

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Originally posted by: miri
Ok, so if I am still pushing the gas pedal and then push the clutch and switch gears this does not cause extra wear? Sorry, I think I learned how to drive manual the wrong way.

no extra wear that i'm aware of, you probably just wasted gasoline because when the clutch is pressed fully the gear is in neutral.
 

Lithium381

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not that you're doing it wrong, i learned that way too, my mom didn't want me to compeltely eat her clutch......now that i've learned how to drive and have been driving a few years, i make it seamless, adding or taking off gas when i need
 

Juno

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If you want to learn how to shift then go to any arcades and play some car games.
 

imported_Nacelle

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Other than taking off from a stop, I don't use the clutch. You let the engine slow down to match the speed of the next gear pull it in. I'm a truck driver. So, I do it a lot. Once you learn not to grind, there is not that much clutch wear.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: vshah
you're supposed to match the revs to the speed/gear you will be shifting into, this applies for up and downshifting. upshifting, if you time it right, you can take your foot all the way off the gas, usually i just lift it a bit...

-VIvan

^ best explanation
 

LS20

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just visualize a clutch and a flywheel.. the discs that connect the tranny to the motor... (theres a powerplate in there somewhere)

clutch is on the tranny (wheels)... flywheel is on motor (what your RPM measures)

if theyre engaged the engine sends power through the tranny to the wheels

do whatever the fugg black magic you want with the cluth pedal on upshifts, downshifts, etc... if you just visualize the above 95% of your questions will be answered



...before everybody goes on the weekly misinformation of double clutching, rev matching, etc etc etc...
 

OrganizedChaos

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when your about to shift use your right foot to hold the gas to the floor. "kick" the clutch with your left foot just enough to break contact with the flywheel, at the exact same time upshift. if done correctly engine rpm will only rise 200-300 rpm during the shift. with a little experience you'll be able to use the sway of your nuts to judge your performance.
 

Thegonagle

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Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
when your about to shift use your right foot to hold the gas to the floor. "kick" the clutch with your left foot just enough to break contact with the flywheel, at the exact same time upshift. if done correctly engine rpm will only rise 200-300 rpm during the shift. with a little experience you'll be able to use the sway of your nuts to judge your performance.

I suggest that you borrow OrganizedChaos' car if you plan to do this.
 
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