Questions to ask realtors when purchasing a home/mortgage questions.

JM Aggie08

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I've reached the magical point in my life where I am looking to purchase my first home, and do not want to go into it unprepared. Those of you who are homeowners - what are some questions you recommend asking/wish you would have asked when purchasing a home?

Regarding mortgages - what are the different loan types, and which are preferred? We have an absolute max budget of 250K, and will be able to put down 20% for anything within that range. What about pre-approval? My understanding it is not required, but a good practice. How the hell do I find a list of competitive rate for the bank in my area?

Please and thank you
 

RadiclDreamer

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You can ask most banks/credit unions for their pricing sheets, where my wife worked they had it broken down by A+/A/B/etc credit ratings, what the scores for each were and what the % was for each.
 

Strk

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Well, I'd start with realtors are frequently uninformed and don't necessarily know much about houses. I remember trying to explain to my mother that vinyl windows really are very good (assuming the contractor didn't strop all the efficiency out of them) if installed properly. That is, if the seal was good and you're doing replacements, they were installed correctly. Or, if the siding was off the house, they went with new construction. Of course her answer was "no, vinyl is crap." It's not like a cheapo vinyl window frequently has better efficiency ratings than most expensive Andersen, Pella or Marvins........

So, with that little rant done, shake the toilet (literally stand over it and straddle the thing and shake), jump on the porch and question just about everything.
 

moonbogg

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Some realtors ride on the edge of what is legal regarding disclosures. Ask if the house has been in escrow before and if so, why they backed out of the purchase. Something might be wrong with the house that they are hoping you will overlook, such as foundation issues etc. Foundation issues are easy to overlook, but once you buy the house, you can get stuck with a repair job that costs 1/4 the price of the whole damn house. So much for your future equity if that happens.
Get a good home inspection, and don't use their inspector. Get your own inspector.
Any issues found with the house can provide you with leverage to negotiate for a reduced price or request for repair prior to escrow closing.
 

Virge_

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Spend no more than half of your max budget for your starter home experience. Better men/women than you have come before you and failed because of the obvious unforeseen. If you make good decisions, you will make a little money and in a few years upgrade to a new model. If you make bad decisions, you will lose a hell of a lot less on a $125,000 mistake vs. a $250,000 mistake. Ignore all the "best time to buy!" nonsense, as we're rapidly approaching a second housing bubble in the major markets anyway.

- Do not use a major bank. The list of reasons are immense (they will sell your shit without a second thought), use a Credit Union.
- Both FHA and CONV have their own set of advantages and disadvantages. Too long to list here, just Google it.
- Go in with a pre-approval letter or you are wasting everyone's time, including your own.
- Do not buy the first home you come across that seems "perfect". Don't even buy the home on the top of your list without first having a #2 and a #3, and putting in a low-ball on both just in case. The last two times I was buying, the night before I put in my offer on my #1, I called and put in extreme low-balls on #2 and #3, and told them they had 4 hours to accept before I moved on - in both cases they took the offer and I ended up making serious cash when I decided to move due to having significant equity. Think long-term with home ownership, it is not a decision to be made lightly and/or in impulse - make those mistakes with less expensive shit.
- Find your own home inspector, do not use the REA's. Ask friends for referrals.
- Make the seller pay as much of your closing costs as possible.
- If you cannot afford a high enough down payment to eliminate PMI, pay as little as possible (the rest is not saving you anything at all and is better spent on the unforeseen and/or invested elsewhere).
- Realize that, on average, people stay in homes between 3-5 years before moving or upgrading/downgrading. Factor this into your decision making process as a reality, not a scenario.
- Call the utilities companies and ask for previous bills. It lets you know the potential energy costs as well as how efficient the home is.
- Knock on the neighbors doors - introduce yourself, say you are looking to buy this house, and ask them if they know of anything negative you should know. I've learned various things, from sue-happy neighbors living close-by who went after people for shit as trivial as smoking outside, to finding out a drive-way was poured partially on a neighbors lot and was never brought to the city's attention, decreasing a lot size respectively having passed the statute of limitations for action, etc.. ask the neighbors, they know this shit.

I could go on for ages, I've bought and sold half a dozen homes in various parts of the US, and I now act as my own agent for better bargaining. Feel free to ask for more specifics if necessary, home-buying can be one of the most complex things the average person will ever do, and for that reason the list of reasons you can (and will!) get screwed are vast.
 
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moonbogg

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Spend no more than half of your max budget. Better men than you have come before you and failed because of the obvious unforeseen. If you make good decisions, you will make a little money and in a few years upgrade to a new model. If you make bad decisions, you will lose a hell of a lot less on a $125,000 mistake vs. a $250,000 mistake. Ignore all the "best time to buy!" nonsense, as we're rapidly approaching a second housing bubble in the major markets anyway.

Dude that depends on where you are. If you are in CA you can't do that or you'll be living with gang bangers in the ghetto, like, extremely dangerous ghetto. $125k LOL. Good thing the OP is in Texas. You can actually put a roof over your head in Texas for $125k. In CA he'd be straight fucked.
 

postmortemIA

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Realtor won't know much about the mortgages. They might recommend you a loan officer, which you can decide if you want to trust or not.
As for 1/2 of Max, that is too extreme. Don't go for your max for sure though, or you will be house poor.
 

Virge_

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Dude that depends on where you are. If you are in CA you can't do that or you'll be living with gang bangers in the ghetto, like, extremely dangerous ghetto. $125k LOL. Good thing the OP is in Texas. You can actually put a roof over your head in Texas for $125k. In CA he'd be straight fucked.

He/she's in TX and a 250k home in Texas is reasonably mid to high depending on location.

This isn't a discussion on California's second bubble - we're talking about more realistic real-estate markets not dictated by various forms of stupidity. Lets not derail this thread, please.
 
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Exterous

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Spend no more than half of your max budget.

Seems like an odd recommendation given that different people have different views on what constitutes their max budget. Some people consider their max budget the maximum they could afford if they cut down on all sorts of spending. Others consider the max the limit before they can't fund their 401k, HSA, 529 and Roth IRA to the limit

We used a broker to get the lowest rate. He gave us a list of options sorted by interest rate and we picked the one we wanted to go with. We found him through our realtor who is a close friend of mine so we trusted him more than most people on ATOT trust realtors

Other recommendations:
-Always always always get a home inspection.
-Don't go with a cheap home inspector just because he's cheap and don't just pick one based on the realtor's recommendation
-There is a good chance you'll be spending a lot on household supplies that first year so be sure to budget for it. Its been a while since I was a first time homebuyer so I don't remember what we spent but I am sure the first year had thousands of dollars in extra equipment\tools. Even something simple like painting a room can be expensive the first time as you may not have brushes, rollers, a ladder, drop cloths, a paint tray, paint liners, painters tape etc
-Don't be afraid to ask questions. If you don't understand something keep asking until you do. Who cares if they get annoyed this is your money and a lot of it
-Read everything you sign and ask questions if you don't understand it
-Good faith estimates are just that. Be prepared for a couple of thousand dollar swings. I forget the reason why it was legal but our refi estimate was off by $3k or something like that. Not a pleasant surprise.
 

JM Aggie08

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Dude that depends on where you are. If you are in CA you can't do that or you'll be living with gang bangers in the ghetto, like, extremely dangerous ghetto. $125k LOL. Good thing the OP is in Texas. You can actually put a roof over your head in Texas for $125k. In CA he'd be straight fucked.

Completely untrue in Houston, unless I want to fear for my life every night when I go to sleep :\
 

consolibyte

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* Get a home inspection
* Do an inspection yourself - look through every nook and cranny of the house
* If you can, do multiple viewings at different times of day and go through the whole house again
* Go door to door and talk to the neighbors -- ask them what the neighborhood is like, what the current homeowners are like, do they seem responsible, do they maintain things, etc.
* When was the septic pumped last?
* How much should you expect to pay for gas/electric/oil/etc. monthly?
* How much is their homeowners insurance per month?
* What can they get for internet? Cable? DSL? only dial-up?
* Look at many, many houses. Go back and look again at the few you like.
 

JM Aggie08

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I should add this disclaimer: the Houston housing market is absolutely stupid right now. Homes go on the market and are gone the same or next day.

Unfortunately, I won't have the luxury of dilly-dallying around. I'll need to make super quick, informed decisions.
 

boomhower

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Go to several lenders and apply to get the best deal. Just use you max budget for the app to get their rates and fees. Fees can vary greatly between lenders. All mortgage apps in a 30 day period only count as one against your score so take advantage and get the best deal. Unless you have a very unusual set of circumstances get a fixed rate of some type are rates are still very low. Given that you have 20% to put down conventional is likely the best way to go. Having a lender set up will be to your advantage in a competitive market and will make your offer look better with financing already lined up.

Get a good inspection. Ask around and get recommendations and don't just take whoever the realtor recommends. Just make sure you have a good contract that the offer is based on a satisfactory inspection outcome.

Since you have to make a fast decision go look at a ton of houses to figure out what you like and don't like. Research neighborhoods and school districts. Basically get everything figured out before you actually go looking to buy.
 

dank69

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I should add this disclaimer: the Houston housing market is absolutely stupid right now. Homes go on the market and are gone the same or next day.

Unfortunately, I won't have the luxury of dilly-dallying around. I'll need to make super quick, informed decisions.
Sounds like an absolutely awful time to buy.
 

smackababy

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I should add this disclaimer: the Houston housing market is absolutely stupid right now. Homes go on the market and are gone the same or next day.

Unfortunately, I won't have the luxury of dilly-dallying around. I'll need to make super quick, informed decisions.

I wouldn't buy a house inside Houston then. Get something in a nice suburb and commute. I don't know what you do for a living, but I can tell you, driving the like hour each way from some place like Clear Lake to Downtown would be far better than living anywhere but maybe the nicest of parts and Montrose, if you're a yuppy.
 

Phoenix86

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Texas is a sellers market atm. Good luck getting a seller to pay closing, for example.

A good realtor is valuable, an average one is neigh worthless.
 

JM Aggie08

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I wouldn't buy a house inside Houston then. Get something in a nice suburb and commute. I don't know what you do for a living, but I can tell you, driving the like hour each way from some place like Clear Lake to Downtown would be far better than living anywhere but maybe the nicest of parts and Montrose, if you're a yuppy.

Ya, definitely not looking in the city - suburbs up north.
 

Greenman

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This. Never buy in a sellers market, you're losing before you even begin to negotiate.

Following that advice, I'd have been locked of the market here in CA from around 1979 until 2007.

Everywhere that people want to live is a sellers market.
 

PowerEngineer

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Remember that most all realtors (even the ones that show you listings) are paid by and therefore work on behalf of the seller. Their interests are in getting you to buy a house. Period. Do not be lulled into thinking that realtors have your best interests at heart; they aren't much different than used car salesmen.

You would be wise to carefully review any "standard" forms your realtor will want to use to write up a purchase offer ahead of time. Compare it against others available on the internet to see what you might want to add or subtract. Again, the realtor's interest is pushing a sale through. You might consider running the forms and your changes to it by a lawyer.

As others have said, don't jump at the first "good deal" you see. Take time to get a real feel for the market; it will give you the comfort/confidence to move quickly when needed (and largely immunize you from buyer's regret).

Good luck!
 
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