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Jeraden

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Simple sugars cause instant insulin spikes which is what really inhibits weight loss. No matter what diet anyone is on, nobody disagrees simple sugars are bad for you. Complex carbs are internally converted to simple sugars for processing, but they do have to be digested first, which results in a more gradual introduction of insulin, not the sudden spike that simple sugars cause. However, you really are best off not going overboard on complex carbs (starches) as they WILL affect your blood sugar. A bit in moderation with other foods won't cause any major setbacks, but if all you eat is a bowl of rice, you WILL get a blood sugar spike which is counter productive to weight loss.

If you insist on eating carbs, the best approach is to eat a balanced diet of carbs/fats/protein. Protein provides a longer-lasting "full feeling" and fats slow down the digestion of carbs, reducing the insulin spikes. That way you will feel full longer after the meal and maintain your energy levels since your blood sugar isn't up inhibiting stored fat to fuel conversion.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
No. Some of them may be complex carbs, or other types.


You need to read up more on carbohydrates. Most of the Atkins "no-no's" are complex carbs, such as potatoes, pasta, bread, etc. What manufacturers don't always count on labels is fiber and artificial enhancers such as glycerine. For example, the commericals for Subway's Atkins wrap says "11 net carbs", not total carbs, but net carbs which in their opinion is only carbohydrate which causes an insulin response. I think this is sneaky practice, as they should list total carbs, not net carbs. Very misleading and sneaky

Uhh..complex carbs are good for you. Wow, people need to get a goddamned life. Ive eaten all of the potatoes I want in the past month and havent gained a pound, and I have to watch what I eat.

Good link to help you out.

No kidding Sherlock. Of course they're good for you. I'm just pointing out that Atkins is against a majority of them. Sounds like you need to an anger management class.

YES, YES I DO!

RAWRRRRRRRRRRR!
 

BDawg

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Oct 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
No. Some of them may be complex carbs, or other types.


You need to read up more on carbohydrates. Most of the Atkins "no-no's" are complex carbs, such as potatoes, pasta, bread, etc. What manufacturers don't always count on labels is fiber and artificial enhancers such as glycerine. For example, the commericals for Subway's Atkins wrap says "11 net carbs", not total carbs, but net carbs which in their opinion is only carbohydrate which causes an insulin response. I think this is sneaky practice, as they should list total carbs, not net carbs. Very misleading and sneaky

Uhh..complex carbs are good for you. Wow, people need to get a goddamned life. Ive eaten all of the potatoes I want in the past month and havent gained a pound, and I have to watch what I eat.

Good link to help you out.

No kidding Sherlock. Of course they're good for you. I'm just pointing out that Atkins is against a majority of them. Sounds like you need to an anger management class.

YES, YES I DO!

RAWRRRRRRRRRRR!

Easy, tiger.
 

Riprorin

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The carbs in yogurt are an artifact of the measuring process. Most of the sugars are consumed by the bacteria.

Yogurt is good for you!

Yogurt

The problem with the stated carbohydrate content on the packages of fermented food products arises because the government makes manufacturers count the carbohydrates of food "by difference." That means they measure everything else including water and ash and fats and proteins. Then "by difference," they assume everything else is carbohydrate. This works quite well for most foods including milk. However, to make yogurt, buttermilk and kefir, the milk is inoculated with the lactic acid bacteria. These bacteria use up almost all the milk sugar called "lactose" and convert it into lactic acid. It is this lactic acid which curds the milk and gives the taste to the product. Since these bacteria have "eaten" most of the milk sugar by the time you buy it (or make it yourself.) At the time you eat it, how can there be much carbohydrate left? It is the lactic acid which is counted as carbohydrate. Therefore, you can eat up to a half cup of plain yogurt, buttermilk, or kefir and only count 2 grams of carbohydrates (Dr. Goldberg has measured this in his own laboratory.) One cup will contain about 4 grams of carbohydrates. Daily consumption colonizes the intestine with these bacteria to handle small amounts of lactose in yogurt (or even sugar-free ice cream later.)
 

BDawg

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Originally posted by: Xiety
Anyone know where I can find the nutrition info for Bailey`s and Shredians?

Just a guess, but I'd say they're bad and off the diet.
 

beatle

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Apr 2, 2001
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Riprorin, that was a good post, but I'd never heard that before. Do you have any additional information?

The bacteria in yogurt likes to work at a certain temperature (130F? I can't remember) so when it's refrigerated, it's not "eating" much. If you let yogurt sit for a while it will eventually be too tangy to eat because, like you said, the lactose has been converted to lactic acid. If your yogurt no longer has active/live cultures when you buy it, the bacteria is all dead and there will be no difference (other than the yogurt spoiling) in the nutritional facts.

The only carbs that most everyone familiar with the Atkins diet do not count are fiber, since they don't convert to blood sugar at all. Glycerine, malitol, and other certain "no carb" additives aren't counted by some low-carb food makers because they say they have minimal effect on blood sugar. However, they're still digested to some point, so there best to avoid while on the induction phase, and then only in moderation while in the second stage. Products with these sweeters/additives like the Atkins bars and Carb Solutions bars affect people differently. For some people it triggers an insulin spike, others it doesn't affect.
 
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